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thats been the word for a long time, w/r/t seth and lorne. They're smart to plan ahead especially after lorne left for a while in the 90s god fallon has done nothing to evolve at all. everyone else learned after year one and changed themselves hard. Colbert got a new producer and they stopped selling so many interview slots to CEOs and billionaires and app developers, and stopped putting 5 min of the crowd chanting his name to cover that they didnt have enough material. Him doing all the Trump stuff happened at the same time, so he was able to stop telling everyone hes not the same person as he was on comedy central Kimmel leaned in hard to being the disney mouthpiece to his advantage and did more family and remotes, if he keeps it up he's gonna end up becoming the next Regis. i just feel bad that The Roots are stuck there. They're so goddamn good.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:thats been the word for a long time, w/r/t seth and lorne. They're smart to plan ahead especially after lorne left for a while in the 90s Lorne left in the '80s, and Dick Ebersol's reign was so terrible it almost got SNL canceled.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:just a reminder that Letterman is on Kimmel tonight Reminder for new page that Letterman is on Kimmel tonight
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Also i’ve discussed the matter of Lorne and Fallon with my esteemed colleagues, and we’ve decided that the old man has some tricks up his sleeve. I don’t expect to see him retiring until 2025, and Seth is staying at Late Night until then. I doubt Fallon’s going to be let go next year, the feelers etc are a negotiating tactic. I don’t doubt the veracity of Djarum’s post, insofar as that the things they post are things they have heard, but no, I do not believe these changes are coming next year. This is My Word and as such, is beyond reproach Timby posted:Lorne left in the '80s, and Dick Ebersol's reign was so terrible it almost got SNL canceled. Let us not forget that of the four times SNL almost got or even was briefly cancelled, two were on Lorne’s watch (Summers of 1986 and 1995.) pwn fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Timby posted:Lorne left in the '80s, and Dick Ebersol's reign was so terrible it almost got SNL canceled. i always put it in my mind when he produced kids in the hall for some weird reason
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Well Marci Klein was the heir apparent for decades before she abruptly disappeared in 2013 after 30 Rock ended. I have never heard why or what happened, which the fact she hasn’t done anything in nearly a decade makes it seems like she is blacklisted for something. Lorne had basically let her run the show there for a couple of years, which her leaving and him having to take back up the role full time is likely pretty hard for a 75 year old guy. I agree that I expect him to stay on as EP at least in name until the 50th but getting someone in there to do the work and having Lorne there to hold their hand so to speak for awhile is a good idea. You don’t want another abrupt handoff like in the 80s which nearly killed the show. With Fallon I don’t have much of a opinion of him one way or another. He tries to have a show through the lens of a 90s teenager which at times is entertaining, but I don’t think it works in Late Night. Kimmel has mostly got the balance of Letterman and Leno going on, very safe with just a little edge. Colbert I feel has finally gotten his groove after a very rocky early run. I will say Colbert feels like 80s Carson in many ways. I am interested in seeing who they might possibly get if they do go along with replacing Fallon.
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Djarum posted:With Fallon I don’t have much of a opinion of him one way or another. He tries to have a show through the lens of a 90s teenager which at times is entertaining, but I don’t think it works in Late Night. Everything's "going great," everyone's politically asleep, it's just one big privileged party. I enjoyed it and tuned in almost every night. Post-2015/2016, I almost couldn't stand watching him. I don't really have anything against Fallon himself, it's just that his show wasn't suited for the Trump era at all. I mean, it's no wonder everyone jumped ship to Colbert, if only for the monologues. As for the past few years, I just haven't bothered watching any late night.
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The mention of Kids in the Hall got me thinking, so here's a mini blurb, because I'll always care way more about that show than anything else Lorne has or will ever do. It's so weird when I see old SNL skits with Mark McKinney in them. He was on I think one season of SNL, mid 90s, and then either left or was dropped. But he was by far my favourite Kid in the Hall. It has never come across on SNL, but what I appreciated the most out of his KitH stuff was how he really got into the parts, really treated them like acting roles. Sure, he was over the top with stuff like Satan, the Head crusher, the old man ("Please, please pleeeeease!") and Chicken Lady, but I always thought he was at his best when doing bit parts or just not necessarily spouting jokes all the time. One of my favourite McKinney skits is the Trucker, and it doesn't even have a punchline. And that's fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3bD37VDNFc Anyway, I always thought he was underused on SNL, and as a Canadian, part of me felt like most Americans didn't even notice him. And if your only exposure to him WAS SNL, I can't blame you. Anyway, that's my blurb. Edit: Holy poo poo, there's a sequel (after the Spring bit)... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jd6Bjnr2nA And one about plungers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKhO475rzRU Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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KitH is criminally underrated. I ended up getting a complete run of it in HD that someone spliced in the stuff that was cut out of the versions circulating on streaming now a while back. I think it is stronger comedy than SNL due to it not having the history and preconceptions of what SNL is supposed to be. Honestly it feels much more like the first season of SNL where it was dangerous and you have a lot of people trying stuff because it is funny to them not caring if it works or not. Television comedy in general is entirely too formulaic. It is what makes old Letterman episodes so great still is you have no idea what is coming next, you could have a Monkey Cam, they would do a episode in a hotel room or an airport terminal or you could have some wacky character or stunt happen out of nowhere. It was weird and dangerous in a way television really isn't anymore. Granted over the years that slowed down a lot with Dave and even he mostly fell into a formula especially at CBS.
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Let me take you back to before all this began, if only for a brief moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmdmx-ZcVvE Yeah, dude went ham with a tilt-shift lens, but I still think it’s cute.
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Djarum posted:I don’t think it has been talked about in any media yet. There are plenty of people in comedy that are talking about it though. I know of two people that have had NBC feelers in recent weeks. Do we know if Conan would be interested? 
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Der Kyhe posted:Do we know if Conan would be interested? Conan is 57 and evidently both him and Turner are quite happy with each other. I quite enjoy what he is trying to do with attempting to break the standard format of the late night talk show. That being said I would expect the Smiths to reunite before you would see Conan ever go anywhere near NBC again. There is a LOT of bad blood even still.
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pwn posted:Let me take you back to before all this began, if only for a brief moment. Oh I loved the intro. Hell I liked the show for a little while too. I just kinda felt like it became a chore to watch
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pwn posted:Let me take you back to before all this began, if only for a brief moment. That's a great one, I do miss these though. https://youtu.be/XBprGAx0Pzg Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson https://youtu.be/BcmYs3RnolM 90s Late Night with Conan
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MorrisBae posted:David Spade makes the most sense for The Tonight Show and I'd love to see that happen im goddamn down for that dudes a great guest
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The Big 3 nets all have election night coverage tomorrow night, so there won’t be shows. Colbert is doing another live election special on Showtime at 11/10c. Surprisingly, he doesn’t currently have a Friday show scheduled, but Corden does, as does Kimmel. Schedule for the week starting 2020.11.02 Subject and likely to change Colbert Monday - Cher, John Oliver, JoJo Tuesday - Preempted for CBS News coverage of the 2020 presidential election; Live show on Showtime Wednesday - Shepard Smith Thursday - Larry Wilmore Corden Monday - Pete Butigieg, Travis Tuesday - Preempted for CBS News coverage of the 2020 presidential election Wednesday - Henry Winkler, The Kills Thursday - TBA, Christine and the Queens Friday - Henry Golding, Ella Mai Kimmel Monday - John Lithgow, Freddie Highmore, Givēon Tuesday - Preempted for ABC News coverage of the 2020 presidential election Wednesday - TBA, Gregory Porter Thursday - David Duchovny, The Bachelorette, Jon Pardi Friday - Charlie Hunnan, Why Don’t We Fallon Monday - Anthony Anderson, Elizabeth Warren, Big Boo and Sleepy Brown feat. Killer Mike and Big Rube Tuesday - Preempted for NBC News coverage of the 2020 presidential election Wednesday - Sarah Silverman, Dua Lipa, Steve Kornacki, Common feat. Black Thought Thursday - Kenan Thompson, Kate Mara, James Blake Friday - Milo Ventimiglia, Marc Maron, Oneohtrix Point Never Seth Monday - John Mulaney Tuesday - Preempted for NBC News coverage of the 2020 presidential election Wednesday - Leslie Jones Thursday - David Sedaris Conan Monday - Andy Daly Tuesday - The CONAN Repeat Election Night Special Wednesday - Al Franken Thursday - Nicolle Wallace
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Me from ten years ago finding out that OPN is on a late night show:  Crazy how a dude who was known for making out there electronics has blown up like this.
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I'm so God damned burned out. I haven't been able to watch more than a few minutes of any of this poo poo for a few weeks now, and it was hard plowing through it before. And I am certainly not in the mood to sit and watch nothing get decided Tuesday night, only to have Trump win in the next few days. Because, c'mon, we all know it's going to happen. Yeah, I think I might just check out tomorrow night. I really wish I did drugs, because I don't know if I can handle the hangover I'd have Wednesday if I get drunk enough to make it through Tuesday night. Also, it'll screw up my weekly workout routine, so I probably won't be able to get drunk. I am just so tired of this all. I didn't think I'd be worn down, but gently caress, I'm only human.
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tarlibone posted:I'm so God damned burned out. I haven't been able to watch more than a few minutes of any of this poo poo for a few weeks now, and it was hard plowing through it before. I feel you dude. Watching this slow-motion train wreck approaching over the past six weeks has been taking a real and tangible toll on my physical and mental health. My posts in this and other threads paints a picture that nobody wants to see but should absolutely be seen by everyone. Trump is not likely to win. He is also not likely to leave office. That’s the part that I’m dreading. Watching our country shake apart, watching as democracy is executed by lawyers, traitorous republicans in swing states, and the supreme court. I hate that Frank loving Miller was right, but he was right: Power doesn't come from a badge or a gun. Power comes out of lying, and lying big, and getting the whole drat world to play along with you. Or just the right state legislatures, at least.
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pwn posted:I feel you dude. Watching this slow-motion train wreck approaching over the past six weeks has been taking a real and tangible toll on my physical and mental health. My posts in this and other threads paints a picture that nobody wants to see but should absolutely be seen by everyone. I emphasized one line to say that... I don't know how true that is. I mean, I totally agree with everything else, especially the part about not leaving office. But not likely to win? I remember people saying he was unlikely to win a single state in the primary. Then, that he wasn't going to win any of the big, important ones. Then that he wasn't going to win the primary. Then, that him winning the primary was a sure-fire sign that we'd get a female president. Then, that Clinton being ahead so far in the polls guaranteed that his shtick had carried him as far as it'd go, and his reputation and brand/name were ruined forever. Then there was a sparsely attended inauguration. Shrug emoji. We'll eventually see.
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Stare-Out posted:All the Clutch Cargo stuff on the old Late Night show is brilliant, Arnie especially. I love it. The Syncro-Vox technique was unfamiliar to some people who watched the show, I'm sure, but it's so ridiculously cheesy when done with an actual photo instead of animation cells that it works anyway. Ahnold was always my favorite. He really makes those sketches jingle all the vay. Also, we need more Artie Kendal. Except one of the verses is about Trump. Rupert Buttermilk posted:Man, that Colbert rant was fantastic and It was. But... I almost can't even feel angry about it anymore. I've got no rage left. There have been so many similarly heated and incredulous reactions to Trump's ridiculous rantings that it just didn't impact me. I get that Colbert was highly upset, but at the same time, I felt like, why? It's literally more of the same. Props to Colbert for not yet being as worn down by it all as I am, I guess.
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The thing that I took from it was that even though this was just the latest in 4+ years of sarcasm and anger towards Trump, at this point, he's outwardly calling him a fascist. That was nice. Wish it wasn't true. Before, I feel like there was some sort of minimal decorum, but Thursday's rant was, minus any actual swearing, "gently caress you, and everyone who thinks like you."
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Well, this stage of the end is over: Trump is projected to lose the election. I'm going to enjoy myself today. I'll allow myself to feel good for now, because there will be (and have been) litigation, and he's also going to try to get states to select Trump-loyal electors, even if the state went to the Democratic party. I still think Trump is going to remain president, one way or another. But for now, I'll take a breath and pretend like this isn't the part of the nightmare where you wake up but you're actually still in the nightmare.
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tarlibone posted:But for now, I'll take a breath and pretend like this isn't the part of the nightmare where you wake up but you're actually still in the nightmare. 
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Biden won the election. Now we see how desperate Trump is to challenge everything and go crazy with the legal system, to truly see how broken the American political system is. Meanwhile, do we actually have a separate thread for the Daily (social distancing) Show with Trevor Noah, or is this somehow not appropriate because nobody talks about it? Its currently the only one we get on free channels, and my personal opinion is that they are actually quite clever with the no-resource-home-show format. Actually something you even sometimes turn into, because it runs at 8PM just before one hour of usually relatively new South Park, followed by some movie which runs into midnight.
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Der Kyhe posted:Meanwhile, do we actually have a separate thread for the Daily (social distancing) Show with Trevor Noah, or is this somehow not appropriate because nobody talks about it? If anyone watched it, it would most likely be discussed in here. Lets face it, it's 2020 and nobody really cares to watch late night shows beyond any viral clips, and it's no surprise because the shows are pretty poo poo. Desus and Mero et al are more interesting than the yawnfest that the OTA networks do these days but those are niche audiences too so not much discussion.
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I stopped watching the Daily Show, even though I like Trevor Noah. But I can't take a spoonful of Trump from both Colbert and Trevor... and Seth... and literally everyone else. After over 1700 days of this poo poo, each one worse than the last, I am amazed that anyone can. At least Colbert has other stuff, usually. I like his Meanwhile segments (or, lately, Quarantinewhile). But with Trevor, it's too much Trump. I lost the ability to laugh about it before the insanity that was 2020.
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