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pwn
May 27, 2004

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wa27 posted:

Conan playing along to a full performance of Free Bird with Will Ferrell was a great last show as well. In fact Conan's whole final week on the Tonight Show was a thing of beauty and I wish I had all those episodes saved for eternity.
I used to have them all recorded off the air, but that hard drive hit the hoosegow.

I felt bad for Leno. He fell apart last night. Seeing him honestly saying that he never went anywhere else because he only knew his family at Tonight was sobering. Dude never wanted to let go out of greed for money. He was terrified of being alone.

As much as I like Garth Brooks, it was sad seeing him trying to get the audience to sing "Friends in Low Places" and failing.

Leno was tolerable this week and last, if he'd had this devil-may-care attitude all along he would've been almost good.

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pwn
May 27, 2004

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Mister Kingdom posted:

gently caress him. He could have gone somewhere else and taken his crew with him like Dave did. He went out with a whimper.

At least Dave had something nice to say about him and even said "Good night, Jay" and the end of his show.
I know, I hate him and all, but I still felt for him. This sums up my feelings pretty well.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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MikeJF posted:

I was just watching Ferguson's interview on Leno and this question came up:


Leno says it was originally 'Starring Jay Leno' but his mother mocked him for 'Starring' so he changed it to 'With'.
I have the first Leno Tonight on tape, just watched it last night, and it was always "with."

pwn
May 27, 2004

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SHUPS 4 DETH posted:

He named Team Coco and every time he's on it's incredible, so yes?
Wait, what? The monikor "CoCo" debuted with Twitter Tracker (voiced by writer Brian McCann.)

About 2:40 in

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DivisionPost posted:

Technically not true. "Coco" first came from the Twitter Tracker bit that Conan did on his Tonight Show. I can't remember if it was Robert Smigel that provided the roided-out voice for it, but during the inaugural bit, he said "[SOMETHING] A NO-NO FOR COCO?" and the crowd lost it.

But yes, Tom Hanks was the first guest after that, and if he hadn't run with the Coco schtick as throughly as he did, I don't think it would have stuck. So really I'm just picking nits.
Yeah this

edit 2: Speaking of Conan, I just watched last night's episode online. I don't usually see Conan because I just get over the air programming, but holy crap, has his show been in this much of a hurry for a while now? Is there some creative impetus for never letting things breathe going out to and coming back from commercial? He even shortened the opening and cut the episode titles, which were awesome. I really miss the Late Night Conan show, where any given night you could get a nice slow vertical pan of Pender tootin' away at the end of the break.

pwn fucked around with this message at Feb 19, 2014 around 22:04

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Jimmy Fallon really played this week perfect, just pitch-perfect. He's getting to do Tonight his own way and it's working so well. Had Conan been extended like respect... (Jimmy, of course, never has a masturbating bear on; Conan's old show was quite blue, and it's one of Jimmy's strengths that he works mostly clean, as he does it so well.)

If you told me in 2004 that ten years from now, the first African-American First Lady would be on the Tonight Show in New York, in a sketch with the host, Jimmy "Breaking" Fallon, and Will "Goulet" Ferrell, both of whom had just left SNL; that Late Night would be hosted by Seth "Zinger" Meyers, with Fred "Fericito" Armisen leading his band; and that Lorne "Bud" Michaels would finally add Tonight to his crown, making him one of the most powerful men at NBC, I'd ask you who you were because I had no friends back then.

If it wasn't clear before, SNL is the gateway to NBC's legendary late night kingdom.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Well, which would you feel better about watching with your niece or whatever who's 11. Think about it for a minute. Conan's pretty blue, maybe not by 90s standards, but today, definitely. Pop in any old Late Night and there'll probably be something that would make you blush.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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DivisionPost posted:

It's worth pointing out that (assuming I remember it correctly) Bill Carter's The War For Late Night puts a good chunk of the blame on Dick Ebersol. If you'll permit me to dip into the ol' box of Star Wars analogies, he was the Palpatine to Zucker's Vader, except instead of Zucker having a last-minute change of heart, he just kept doing whatever Ebersol said until Comcast kicked them both out.
Thanks for reminding me that exists, I finally got around to ordering a copy.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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No, Conan struck out on his own for Tonight. His company Conaco produced the show.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Armisen was away all week on The Seth Meyers Spectacular. It would be a funny joke if he just stayed away, and they stopped even making up reasons why. Then he could come back in like 3 months and say he was there for good again and be gone the next night.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Mister Kingdom posted:

I loved it when Henry Mancini wrote The Viewer Mail Theme. Dave wasn't too thrilled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogst_L1PI1I

I don't know why there's a Donahaue clip on this video.
Holy crap, that's Lenny Pickett from SNL! I didn't know he ever sat in with the band.

Speaking of big bands, I have a tape of his Big Band Show from 2001. I should upload that whole thing sometime soon, it was awesome. They had a total of 50 players including Paul and the band, crammed in every corner of the stage, complete with a couple of harp players stuffed behind Dave at the desk. The played all night, it was a good time.

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pwn
May 27, 2004

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I haven't seen the divine spark in Seth that Fallon and O'Brien had. All I see is a guy who was hired to be not-The Tonight Show-host in 5 years. I mean, can you envision a world where Fred Armisen's little garage band is The Tonight Show Band?

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Last night was the best Fallon in a long time. Louis told his boat story, then Jack White and Neil Young came out and unveiled this crazy recording booth from 1947. Then Neil played and recorded a song in it.

Neil Young "Crazy"

Watch the whole show though. Great great stuff.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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He should be given a chance for a final bow. That's just manners. Cocksucking Backstabbing Sumbitches.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Rageaholic Monkey posted:

http://teamcoco.com/video/82643/cof...t-sell-06-02-14

This is a prime example of what I love about Conan's show. When he introduces "Porn Actors In New Careers", he knows it's awful and just leaves it up for a minute without saying anything while the audience laughs at the cover art, then he shakes his head and flips it off the table.
That whole bit was hysterical. Gonna have to watch some Conan episodes now.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Deadpool posted:

I don't know. It's been a month or two since I've really been able to catch any Late Night shows at all. Last I was watching the monologue was still shaky, the comedy bits still very hit and miss, and the interviews were still really good though.
One thing that bothers me about his monologue- one thing that bothers me about his monologue is his near-pathological need- a near-pathological need to repeat the setup to about a third- a third- of the jokes.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Ok, I've wondered forever: The disclaimer Letterman gives before a Stupid Pet Tricks segment, is that a legal thing? And/or a running gag? Was it insisted upon way back when by those kooky nutty NBC Lawyers, and now it's tradition?

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Craptacular! posted:

If it's the bit where Dave says "and please, no wagering" that's a very old joke.
Yes that's the one. I was just watching the Late Night 7th anniversary special and was reminded how long he's been doing it.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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counterfeitsaint posted:

Is Worldwide Pants going to be involved in the CBS late night lineup after Dave and Craig leave? If not then there's really no question that Craig would have no say in the matter.
Dave and, by extension, Worldwide Pants, will not be involved in CBS late night franchises after his retirement.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Meanwhile, Seth Meyers got an entirely new set, and a new orientation that's similar to Fallon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyIe8XeCglc

pwn
May 27, 2004

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DJ Pauls Gimp Arm posted:

I remember back when it was Late Night, it seemed like they changed his set every 3 years or so. I've been waiting since the first episode on TBS for the current set to be replaced. It's probably the worst since their first year.
I'm gonna see if I can recall this stuff correctly. Dates are approximate...


1993 Original mustard-yellow set. Sometime early on there was a minor modification made, but this basic set was used for about 3 years.


1996 Second set, with the square motif and the padded wall. This set coincides with Conan's ascension from being on the edge of cancellation to becoming a hot commodity in the NBC lineup.


2001 The circles set. Fun fact: this set debuted in late August, with no curtain behind the facade, a couple weeks before 9/11. When the show came back on September 18th, the curtain had been added, with the "view" of the Twin Towers obscured by folds in the cloth. I am pretty sure at some point in September or October they tried it without the curtain again for an episode, but it went back up right away. This set remained until it was smashed and torn apart by Conan in his last week in 2009.

There were 5 opening montages used in that 16-year period. Animated (1993,) Bicycle (1995,) Times Square clipshow (1997 [my least-liked opening,]) Color Bars (2000) and Cel-shaded NYC Tour (2004.)

And no talk of Conan sets should go without a nod to the most beautiful of late night sets.



pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"



eh, Armisen is off the show, in practice if not on paper. Kim Thompson is the actual star of the band. I hope he stays gone.

Seth needs to stop channeling the ghost of Leno and find his own voice. His monologue carries on the proud Late Night tradition (briefly interrupted by Fallon) of sub-par monologues.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Daduzi posted:

As a Brit, I don't think it's fair to say James Corden is not funny. It would be more accurate to describe him as a gigantic anti-humour singularity that sucks the lifeforce out of anything even resembling comedy within a 200 mile radius.

That could just be me though.


Here's a clip of the spectacular wit, wisdom and masterful interviewing you can look forward to for years to come: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2PMOea0cRs
That clip doesn't really do the job. It's an awards show, ball-busting stuff, it's such a different gig than hosting a late night talk show. That said, I'm gonna defer to you because you have obviously had enough exposure to this guy.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Terminally Bored posted:

Late Night is full of sub-par indie crap. Of the more recent ones the most hilariously bad one was Future Islands on Letterman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ee4bfu_t3c
(the bass player has a dead-eye stare through the whole song)

I'm not sure why they even bother with the music acts in the age of youtube, does their target audience really watch late night talk shows?
That guy has a terminal case of IDS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDaFMZfIsV4

As for terrible acts on Late Night... Jonathan Richman. Another IDS sufferer, I don't know how else to explain this rear end in a top hat (who isn't even Pablo Picasso) getting over for 30 years now, or why Conan slobbers his knob, but this was and still remains laughably terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI4-z4m-wXc

On the plus side, young, clean-shaven Jimmy Vivino sitting in!

pwn
May 27, 2004

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That Jonathan Richman video above was my first exposure to him, way back in '96. It was a bad first impression; I've been watching more of his Late Night performances, and I hate to admit, he's grown on me. Here's a little gem: A performance plus interview from 1994, in Conan's 51st week on the air. Set Chat: By now Conan's set has had the extra large "windows" added. Also note the full-screen credits, and Andy on the camera. Cute little show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmbhOa8NdG8

edit: At the end Conan announces the birth of keyboardist Scott Healey's son. He turned 20 this week.

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pwn
May 27, 2004

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we bloody get it, we got it and did it 50 years ago and may they never return to these august shores

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Lenny Pickett (SNL's lead saxophonist since 1985) sat in with The Roots last night on the Jimmy Fallon Experience. And now I find that NBC doesn't sell episodes on iTunes or Amazon or anywhere else.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/700906

pwn
May 27, 2004

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STOP THE GODDAMN FRED-MAKING-poo poo-UP BIT IT WASN'T FUNNY THE FIRST 80 TIMES AND IT ISN'T EVER GOING TO BE

I keep wanting this show to be good and this poo poo keeps getting in the way of a good show. Fred thinks he's above such pedestrian fare as late night talk shows and he's gonna subvert the gently caress out of it.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Frostwerks posted:

Conan dropped the biggest burn on Cosby a couple days ago.
Which episode?

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Mister Kingdom posted:

A dismal week of Drew hosting LLS is over. My local affiliate isn't even carrying it next week.
That's... serious. Which station?

pwn
May 27, 2004

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raditts posted:

Craig's LLS logo pre-2009 or so was ugly as poo poo though.

For reference, (very very tiny) LLS Craig Kilborn logo



And Tom Snyder



"The Late Late Show" is a tremendously clunky name that drives graphic designers to the drink.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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STAC Goat posted:

I've watched a fair bit of The Voice and I really can't telling if Blake Shelton's whole "clueless old white dude" routine is legit or if he's just trolling us.
i think he's just making money on it. He's as authentic as Dan "Larry The Cable Guy" Whitney.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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I like the oooooold CBS logo on his mic skirt at the start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B3mftTJHGc
Keep your eye on this eye, the CBS Eye

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Tonight's Fallon show has Neil Young and Doc Severinsen, and is going to run two minutes longer than normal.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Well, there goes Letterman's chances at the Emmy this year.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Did he say anything about his good buddy Brian Williams tonight? I was watching Kimmel, who surprisingly didn't say a word about one of the bigger news stories of the week. But Fallon and Meyers haven't said a peep since the story broke.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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Steve Vader posted:

Man, Dave's going back to not giving a poo poo about his hair, and he looks like a hosed up old science teacher or something now.
The Best Dave.

Has Kim Thompson been fired from Late Night? She's been off the show for about a month now. Her site still says she's on the show and I can't find any news articles. She's the best part of the band.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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It looks like Kim Thompson is out of the 8G Band. Maybe Fred didn't like someone playing so much better than him. He has no charisma, musically. The rest of the band has been the saving grace of the show in its first year. Fred just looks like he's waiting for it to be over. Maybe Thompson left on her own accord, but I hate Armisen, and have no problem blaming him, given that there's been no mention of where Kim went.

"I wanna play drums now!!"

pwn
May 27, 2004

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ufarn posted:

"Team Coco" was literally the name of the "protest" against NBC firing Conan - which was a total outrage, because they promised him the Tonight Show, if he renewed his contract for a few years. I can't remember whether hashtags were that popular back then, but you can try searching for it - maybe http://teamcoco.tumblr.com/archive.

"Coco" was Tom Hanks's pet name for Conan, and Team Coco eventually became the unofficial-official show/brand name.
"Co-Co" was first coined in a Twitter Tracker bit Hanks just co-opted it for his own nefarious ends.

pwn
May 27, 2004

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counterfeitsaint posted:

When Craig was a host we didn't complain.
We stayed quiet and polite until your little monkey fella finished up and left.

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pwn
May 27, 2004

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Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Alright, so I honestly do enjoy Corden's format of having both guests on at once and doing skits with both of them at the same time, but I can also see how that could easily go very wrong. I guess it remains to be seen if the show can pull it off long term, but I like that concept at least.
Yeah I just watched it and quite liked it. I don't get CBS so I doubt I'll be carving out time to stream it but it's a fun little bit of what-have-you. That said it's kinda mind-blowing how Jimmy Fallon has changed the talk show landscape. Namely, if you're a celebrity, going on a talk show just to talk is no longer gonna cut it, you have to be down for playing games too.

edit: Fallon, Vieira, and now Cordon. Anyone else doing this bit?

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