Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us $3,400 per month for bandwidth bills alone, and since we don't believe in shoving popup ads to our registered users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
«247 »
  • Post
  • Reply
Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


There's something to be said for attempting to become unique and valuable. Helps you get around the "why do we need you?" question.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012


LinkedIn thread seems dead so I'll repost here since this one is alive and well:

A Udemy course I did last year recommended keeping your LinkedIn profile as "on brand" as possible. So if you want a job doing X, then you need everything in there to be all about X and just leave out the unrelated stuff. Include tangentially related stuff, though. What do you guys think about this? Because I won't be applying for only one particular job title or niche. Should I include everything, like a European CV, or should I stick to the advice given and keep it "on brand"?

Also, do you guys keep a "personal projects" part in your experience category where you place Media screenshots, links, and whatnot? Because normally you have to click that down arrow in order to see the links and screenshots but if you put them in the Experience section then it's right there in your face when you scroll down.

Xarn
Jun 26, 2015


lol, LinkedIn is my answer.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Bzzt Bzzt!

I've basically ignored my LinkedIn profile for years and get recruiters messaging me all the time (even before my current job). Past that it has never seemed relevant, nobody brought up my LinkedIn profile in an interview or anything, even when I interviewed at LinkedIn

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.


If you're entry-level and you don't have anything else, it makes sense to list interesting non-development work you've done. Otherwise, I don't see the point to approaching it like a CV, you'll just confuse or bore the audience.

I think the same holds for personal projects, too. If you're experienced and still flogging a CRUD app with a user count in the single digits, it's not really worth being highlighted. If you're highlighting your contributions to a well-known open source library, that's a different situation.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Anyone here work in fintech? What kind of stuff did you work on? Got an interview with a company that seems to do primarily high interest loans, and Iím not sure what to think of it.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Pollyanna posted:

Anyone here work in fintech? What kind of stuff did you work on? Got an interview with a company that seems to do primarily high interest loans, and Iím not sure what to think of it.

Considering your burning, eternal hatred of capitalism, you'll just hate yourself every day knowing you are helping the bourgeoisie oppress the proletariat.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009


Skandranon posted:

Considering your burning, eternal hatred of capitalism, you'll just hate yourself every day knowing you are helping the bourgeoisie oppress the proletariat.

I had a couple of potential avenues to advertising companies in my life. Given my burning, eternal hatred of advertisement in any shape or form I opted to not pursue further as I would have hated myself every day.

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo


Pollyanna posted:

Got an interview with a company that seems to do primarily high interest loans, and Iím not sure what to think of it.

I'd refuse to work for them as a matter of principle.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

Fly on these secondhand wings
Willing to find out
What impossible means
I'll climb through the ladder
On feathers and dreams


Who wants to start wokefromhome.io with me, a company that finds remote jobs for employees who care about doing Good for the world.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003



Pollyanna posted:

Anyone here work in fintech? What kind of stuff did you work on? Got an interview with a company that seems to do primarily high interest loans, and Iím not sure what to think of it.

Are we talking 25% car loans, or 300% payday loans here?

Because one is the devil, and the other is just run-of-the-mill oppression.


Also, lots of misplaced idealism with no outlet in this thread.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

Fly on these secondhand wings
Willing to find out
What impossible means
I'll climb through the ladder
On feathers and dreams


The Fool posted:

Also, lots of misplaced idealism with no outlet in this thread.

GOtta work to eat, live, etc as my boy SkannyD has already pointed out in this thread when he suggested thinking otherwise was basically worth a suicide. But - how many actually """"GOOD""" jobs are out there??? Ya. Very few. Thats why I work for an adtech (sorta) company that does advertising help for the "little guys" small business and poo poo. mods please change the 0s and 1s on the top left of this post to Good Woke Hrunting

Mniot
May 22, 2003
Not the one you know

Good Will Hrunting posted:

GOtta work to eat, live, etc as my boy SkannyD has already pointed out in this thread when he suggested thinking otherwise was basically worth a suicide. But - how many actually """"GOOD""" jobs are out there??? Ya. Very few. Thats why I work for an adtech (sorta) company that does advertising help for the "little guys" small business and poo poo. mods please change the 0s and 1s on the top left of this post to Good Woke Hrunting

This is good stuff. I'm writing this down.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004





And as if our previous conversations called it forth, I just received an unsolicited email offering me a Ruby/Elixir job.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Small business financing so kiiinda. Wasnít feeling it, unfortunately.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Good Will Hrunting posted:

GOtta work to eat, live, etc as my boy SkannyD has already pointed out in this thread when he suggested thinking otherwise was basically worth a suicide. But - how many actually """"GOOD""" jobs are out there??? Ya. Very few. Thats why I work for an adtech (sorta) company that does advertising help for the "little guys" small business and poo poo. mods please change the 0s and 1s on the top left of this post to Good Woke Hrunting

Same

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Good Will Hrunting posted:

GOtta work to eat, live, etc as my boy SkannyD has already pointed out in this thread when he suggested thinking otherwise was basically worth a suicide. But - how many actually """"GOOD""" jobs are out there??? Ya. Very few. Thats why I work for an adtech (sorta) company that does advertising help for the "little guys" small business and poo poo. mods please change the 0s and 1s on the top left of this post to Good Woke Hrunting

I wasn't advocating suicide, I was advocating getting used to some of the harsh realities of this world so as to avoid suicide. At least, that's where my constantly fighting against the world almost led me. But I do like the SkannyD nickname, need to get some bling on my gryphon avatar, maybe a gif where the glasses come down, that would be sick.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

Fly on these secondhand wings
Willing to find out
What impossible means
I'll climb through the ladder
On feathers and dreams


Skandranon posted:

I wasn't advocating suicide, I was advocating getting used to some of the harsh realities of this world so as to avoid suicide. At least, that's where my constantly fighting against the world almost led me. But I do like the SkannyD nickname, need to get some bling on my gryphon avatar, maybe a gif where the glasses come down, that would be sick.

I know, I'm bad at that first part. Also I've just been in a remarkably poo poo-posty mood for weeks, especially today as I solve a concurrency issue that shouldn't even be happening but, well, people don't like to be told their solution is bad and that yours is better because they think readability < marginal performance increases that aren't that important due to a small, relatively bounded input size. I need to learn to get better at sticking up and defending my ideas.

Please get that avatar.

The March Hare
Oct 15, 2006

Je rÍve d'un
Wayne's World 3


Buglord

I've been working on a... book? Introduction to programming in text at any rate by meeting up with friends who are not technical and writing exercises by automating their jobs.

It's been a lot of fun and I'm hoping it can liberate some people. Be the change etc.

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

hendersa posted:

This is correct. I'm just looking for anything that I can get to justify the H1-B sponsorship. By default, we do not offer H1-B sponsorship unless it is an extraordinary case. I tell the students this up-front and then ask them what skills they have. These are grad students, so maybe they did something amazing before pursuing their grad degrees. If they are, though, they aren't saying anything about it...
Yeah, especially if you're in that sort of position I would think it'd be second nature to have a self-pitch that could drop right onto whatever form requires it. I also have a "tell me about yourself" answer that's borderline terse, but generally invites more questions. Can't stand when folks ramble on and kill all enthusiasm with irrelevant details.

Skandranon posted:

need to get some bling on my gryphon avatar
im pretty sure thats a dragon

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

JawnV6 posted:

im pretty sure thats a dragon

I hate you

brainwrinkle
Oct 18, 2009

What's going on in here?


Buglord

Got an offer from Big Tech Company thatís about a 35% total compensation raise from my current job at Established Startup (discounting startup options because theyíre private). Waiting for the result of another interview from last week before negotiating.

It feels weird to give notice at a job that I donít hate yet.

I also understand how people at Big Tech Cos are making 300k+ now (overlapping yearly stock grants).

geeves
Sep 16, 2004



Good Will Hrunting posted:

Who wants to start wokefromhome.io with me, a company that finds remote jobs for employees who care about doing Good for the world.

Only if it can be written in Rust and Web Assembly and all documentation will be in slack.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Bzzt Bzzt!

brainwrinkle posted:

Got an offer from Big Tech Company thatís about a 35% total compensation raise from my current job at Established Startup (discounting startup options because theyíre private). Waiting for the result of another interview from last week before negotiating.

It feels weird to give notice at a job that I donít hate yet.

I also understand how people at Big Tech Cos are making 300k+ now (overlapping yearly stock grants).

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Do stock grants pay out yearly or something? I thought stocks were stuff that lived in the market and only really had theoretical value.

leper khan
Dec 28, 2010
Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

Pollyanna posted:

Do stock grants pay out yearly or something? I thought stocks were stuff that lived in the market and only really had theoretical value.

Stock grants vest over some period of time.
The big names hand them out as a retention package.

Why would you leave if in 6 months youíre getting a windfall with another coming in 18?

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Bzzt Bzzt!

Pollyanna posted:

Do stock grants pay out yearly or something? I thought stocks were stuff that lived in the market and only really had theoretical value.

RSUs (which is likely what brainwrinkle is talking about) vest with whatever vesting schedule the company has.
For example you might get a grant of 92 RSUs when you first start that vests over the course of 4 years, so each month 2 RSUs vest and that becomes real shares that you can cash out.
You are eligible to get a refresh grant as well, so after your first year you might get another 92 RSUs with the same vesting schedule, now you've got overlapping grants vesting each month.

Doctor w-rw-rw-
Jun 24, 2008


For some, twice yearly, with no cliff.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

My fingers are set to vibrate


For example, you might get hired on and they tell you "we'll give you a $200k grant, you get nothing for the first year, then 1 year after hiring, half of it vests, with the remaining half vesting in even increments once a month over the next year". That is, you get 12/24ths at the 1 year anniversary (this is the "cliff"), and the remainder in 1/24th increments once a month until it's all gone. Then after a year, while you're wondering what to do with your $100k worth of stock that just vested, they say "good job, here's another $50k grant, it'll vest over the next year in 1/12th increments". So for that second year, you're getting $150k in grants, in addition to your salary and benefits.

Also grant valuation is determined at the time they're given to you, so if the value of the stock goes up, so does the value of the grant. GOOG (the stock symbol for Alphabet) is up 28% in the last year.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Ah, so it is paid in stocks. I guess I would prefer a raise or a higher base instead.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Bzzt Bzzt!

Pollyanna posted:

Ah, so it is paid in stocks. I guess I would prefer a raise or a higher base instead.

You get raises, bonuses, and a relatively high base too but the Scrooge McDuck swimming pool of gold coins comes from stock after you've been there a while

Hughlander
May 11, 2005



Jose Valasquez posted:

You get raises, bonuses, and a relatively high base too but the Scrooge McDuck swimming pool of gold coins comes from stock after you've been there a while

Yep. Where Iím at now I get something,Ike 40% in bonus and 175% from 2 years of overlap. With another cliff vest soon. Basically means I could t afford to work at a private company anymore unless I was mentally retiring.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

My fingers are set to vibrate


Also past a certain point (I think it's generally in the $150k-$200k range), "more cash please" just stops happening. Improvements in your income will come primarily from bigger grants. Of course, you can then sell the grants during the trading window if you like.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.


There's also a qualitative difference between stock in some pre-IPO gamble and stock in Jeff Bezos's Web Site

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

Fly on these secondhand wings
Willing to find out
What impossible means
I'll climb through the ladder
On feathers and dreams


fantastic in plastic posted:

There's also a qualitative difference between stock in some pre-IPO gamble and stock in Jeff Bezos's Web Site

Yeah one of the two runs the risk of massive layoffs apparently

Orkiec
Dec 28, 2008

My gut, huh?

Good Will Hrunting posted:

Yeah one of the two runs the risk of massive layoffs apparently

If this is snark about upcoming news, it's a few hundred people, in retail, only in Seattle, i.e. less than a percent of corporate. Us AWS devs in Vancouver aren't slowing down hiring AFAIK

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


What does Amazon hire for these days, anyway? I can't see a typical fullstack web dev being all that useful to Amazon's AI and robotics-level projects (ask me about failing an Amazon interview).

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004





Pollyanna posted:

What does Amazon hire for these days, anyway? I can't see a typical fullstack web dev being all that useful to Amazon's AI and robotics-level projects (ask me about failing an Amazon interview).

SRE
It's easy as, 1 2 3
As simple as, do re mi
SRE, 1 2 3
Baby, you and Jeff, girl

geeves
Sep 16, 2004



Orkiec posted:

If this is snark about upcoming news, it's a few hundred people, in retail, only in Seattle, i.e. less than a percent of corporate. Us AWS devs in Vancouver aren't slowing down hiring AFAIK

On Blind several Amazon people said it had to do with their app store and it also got rid of a massive family tree.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Orkiec
Dec 28, 2008

My gut, huh?

geeves posted:

On Blind several Amazon people said it had to do with their app store and it also got rid of a massive family tree.

Blind is a good place to find that the sky is falling down, a month ago everyone was panicking about them bringing stack-ranking back (they haven't).

Pollyanna posted:

What does Amazon hire for these days, anyway? I can't see a typical fullstack web dev being all that useful to Amazon's AI and robotics-level projects (ask me about failing an Amazon interview).

Anyone who passes their algorithms/DS heavy interviews, really. It's not all AI and Robotics though, for example, I have a friend who does full-stack work in JS/Ruby, and there's even a specialized track called WDE (Web Development Engineer) for those who are focusing on front-end work.

Maybe they focus on a certain kind of person at a certain level for certain work, but I think in general they have a wide net.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply
«247 »