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CPColin posted:Ugh, I remember going through that nonsense once. Management sent out an email blast to some communication consultant's website and told everybody to read it by next week, because we'd be spending two mornings off-site learning about communication. When we got there, they handed out big printouts of their website and started reading them to us. I interrupted and asked if we could skip ahead, but one of my coworkers said, "Uh, not all of us read this stuff already." I thought that would be a point against him, but the consultant mentioned me to my boss for being a problem. Consultant: [talks to me for 45 minutes] Yeah, you're all these qualities!!!! For sure this is 100% you!!! Right?!?!?! Me: drat you told me that for free and I've been paying a therapist for 7 years lol
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CPColin posted:Then we all got name placards with our communication style printed on them and nothing changed. We were supposed to acknowledge that some people are decision-driven and may communicate bluntly and we need to accommodate them and blah blah blah. Never mind that some of those types were kind of just being dicks. I interviewed at a place that was proud of some kind of bullshit personality test (apparently more in-depth than the standard INTJ-thing, whatever that is called) that they force every employee to take. They also post the results on the office door/cube wall so "everybody can interact with you the way that works best for you." How about initiating a conversation, then using your brain stem to figure out how best to interact with me, instead of effectively letting phrenology tell you that I am BEEP BOOP PERSONALITY TYPE 7A, REFER TO HUMAN INTERACTION MANUAL PAGE 17. Mixed metaphors blah blah.
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geeves posted:What type of bird are you?
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minato posted:All New Zealanders would look confused and answer the same thing. So pretty accurate, then?
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geeves posted:What type of bird are you? 
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how am I having such a difficult time finding a JavaScript framework named after a bird
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Good Will Hrunting posted:how am I having such a difficult time finding a JavaScript framework named after a bird ..."Owl"relia? (I'll show myself out)
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Good Will Hrunting posted:how am I having such a difficult time finding a JavaScript framework named after a bird Be the change you want to see in the world
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Good Will Hrunting posted:how am I having such a difficult time finding a JavaScript framework named after a bird https://github.com/slightlyoff/cassowary.js/
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Good Will Hrunting posted:how am I having such a difficult time finding a JavaScript framework named after a bird How about "Bluebird" the promise library?
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Che Delilas posted:I interviewed at a place that was proud of some kind of bullshit personality test (apparently more in-depth than the standard INTJ-thing, whatever that is called) that they force every employee to take. They also post the results on the office door/cube wall so "everybody can interact with you the way that works best for you." How about initiating a conversation, then using your brain stem to figure out how best to interact with me, instead of effectively letting phrenology tell you that I am BEEP BOOP PERSONALITY TYPE 7A, REFER TO HUMAN INTERACTION MANUAL PAGE 17. The only personality trait that really matters is whether you're compliant enough to take a bullshit personality test because the company wants you to.
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fantastic in plastic posted:The only personality trait that really matters is whether you're compliant enough to take a bullshit personality test because the company wants you to. I had to do one of these once... I basically just blasted through without reading, answering an even sine wave down the middle. It then told me I was too boring and to try answering the questions again.
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fantastic in plastic posted:The only personality trait that really matters is whether you're compliant enough to take a bullshit personality test because the company wants you to. Well, yeah. And that sort of thing is not the kind of hill I generally chose to die on anyway, since it's just one stupid hoop to jump through that I can then completely ignore once I actually start working.
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Che Delilas posted:Well, yeah. And that sort of thing is not the kind of hill I generally chose to die on anyway, since it's just one stupid hoop to jump through that I can then completely ignore once I actually start working. Our personality test has determined that you'd be a great lead for our weekly Lean Office/5S meetings. We look forward to seeing your SWOT matrix.
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Portland Sucks posted:Our personality test has determined that you'd be a great lead for our weekly Lean Office/5S meetings. We look forward to seeing your SWOT matrix. You can find this document and my other process documents by navigating to goatse.cx, which is a url-shortened link to my google drive. I'm sure you'll like what you see.
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Portland Sucks posted:Our personality test has determined that you'd be a great lead for our weekly Lean Office/5S meetings. We look forward to seeing your SWOT matrix. Holy poo poo you're jumping to SWOT without providing DiSC profiles for the whole team? Might as well do a TQM approach lmao
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JawnV6 posted:Holy poo poo you're jumping to SWOT without providing DiSC profiles for the whole team? Might as well do a TQM approach lmao Ugh, I actually recognize those abbreviations :\
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JawnV6 posted:Holy poo poo you're jumping to SWOT without providing DiSC profiles for the whole team? Might as well do a TQM approach lmao DiSC? Not very thorough or current. Let's get you through a Hogan's. I think you'll find you're low on the knowledge seeking and concurrency scales. We'll also find out what really motivates you so that we can keep you happy without having to worry about upping your comp.
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Skandranon posted:I had to do one of these once... I basically just blasted through without reading, answering an even sine wave down the middle. They usually ask the same question a few different ways to check consistency a bit. My boss loved these as well, and sent a few different versions around to try and get some insight, but thankfully did not try and force anyone to post answers.
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RubberBands Hurt posted:They usually ask the same question a few different ways to check consistency a bit. Look on the bright side, your boss wants to relate to you in a positive fashion and is willing to go at least a little out of his way to accommodate you.
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The people expert pegged me as a "dedicated" "team-oriented" "problem-solving" "loyalist" who sticks with things too long, which kinda owns because I'm gonna stage a coup and if it fails quit lol
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Good Will Hrunting posted:The people expert pegged me as a "dedicated" "team-oriented" "problem-solving" "loyalist" who sticks with things too long, which kinda owns because I'm gonna stage a coup and if it fails quit lol At a previous job, a new PM had my team take DiSC profiles, which, in a very polite way, suggested that I'm an emotional manipulator with control issues. It wasn't necessarily wrong, but I was amused at how the profile described it.
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I was given a new job title and job duties in a 10 minute no-agenda meeting a couple weeks ago. This meeting was mainly the VP of my department asking if I'd want the new role and then doing a slideshow about a larger reorganization. No discussion of compensation at all. I've just foundout via Glassdoor that our main competitor (who is larger, but their product is inferior) pays about $40k more for this role than I'm getting paid now, and that other, larger companies pay $40k more than that. I'm not impressed with my salary to begin with, and I'm concerned that this VP is trying to get sophisticated work out of me without paying for it. I don't really start the new role in earnest until January, which is right around the corner. Should I email my new boss to innocently ask about compensation structure (which usually includes commission at other companies)? Should I point out the pay gap to the VP? Should I wait a few days so they have a chance to correct this themselves?
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rt4 posted:I was given a new job title and job duties in a 10 minute no-agenda meeting a couple weeks ago. This meeting was mainly the VP of my department asking if I'd want the new role and then doing a slideshow about a larger reorganization. No discussion of compensation at all. I've just foundout via Glassdoor that our main competitor (who is larger, but their product is inferior) pays about $40k more for this role than I'm getting paid now, and that other, larger companies pay $40k more than that. "Here's a bunch of more difficult work for you but no you're not getting any more money" is usually not an honest mistake. I would certainly ask about it, there's a chance you could get some kind of raise. A few things to keep in mind though: First, you're not going to get a $40k raise out of the goodness of their heart. Even if they weren't already trying to get high-level work out of you on the cheap (they are), business people operate around percentages, meaning anything over 10% is probably "too much" regardless of how crap your base salary is. Second, frame the conversation in terms of market rates or "the market." Absolutely do not bring up the salary the competitor pays, they will interpret that as a threat. Unless, you know, you want to be threatening, but I wouldn't recommend that as a constructive course of action in almost all situations. They may try and feed you some bullshit along the lines of "Well you're not very experienced in these new duties so we don't think it merits a salary increase until you gain proficiency in them." Don't buy that line of thinking; if they want this job done they should be paying for it, and if they want you to do it they think you can do it, which means they think you're qualified for it, which means they should PAY YOU for it. You may want to accept these extra duties with no extra pay in the short term to pad your resume, that's your call, but if you're worth $40k more and can't get it at your current job, I'd start looking for a new employer.
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If you already accepted and are doing the new job, the window for negotiation is closed. Do the job for a few months to see if you can actually handle it, then accept a job at the competitor or elsewhere in the market for the increase in pay. You will only get a token raise if your current company will actually consider that and that you will have to be grateful of for the next two years. Do not accept any counter offer if you give notice.
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So how do y'all handle job applications to huge companies with a dozen job openings that interest you? Pick one and hope for the best or apply to ones obviously in different orgs or go whole hog?
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Recruiters aren't robots (yet). Just talk to the recruiter because the large company will have one. If you pick one out of many, some of your interviewers may be selected evaluate you for that role specifically. If you were a strong applicant but you only told them you wanted one position, they might kill your application even if they think you'd be fine in one of the other positions you never told them you were interested in. Dunno how they'll handle the interviewing based on whatever you flag, but not communicating is a great way to gently caress up an opportunity.
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Mr. Crow posted:So how do y'all handle job applications to huge companies with a dozen job openings that interest you? Pick one and hope for the best or apply to ones obviously in different orgs or go whole hog? If you don't have a contact at the company just apply for all of them.
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Happy new year! Whatre your career resolutions this year? Mine is to be better about getting work done right the first time, to ask better questions, and to have more confidence.
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Attempt to switch to a new team because I get paid a good salary and benefits/commute are both A+ factors of my job, especially given our change to a new office closer to my apartment. Failing that? Find a new job. I've accepted no good will come out of me being on this team, so if no progress is made towards a switch before bonus time (between 2/1 and 3/1) I'm taking whatever measly % of my bonus check my dingus boss decides to give me and looking. This should also be ample time after New Years headcount and shenanigans. Alternatively, get fired soon and spend 2-3 weeks doing some CTCI and reviewing other things before pounding (ideally) a few interviews a day. Good Will Hrunting fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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Jose Valasquez posted:Keep on impostering without being found out Didnt you get a job at Google? If you get employment at a place like Google and still have imposter syndrome is there no hope??? I guess all that matters is... commas increasing in net worth?
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My career resolution is to hit a promo or give up and switch to an easier team that Im interested in on a human level instead of for the technoboner the project gives me.Good Will Hrunting posted:Didnt you get a job at Google? If you get employment at a place like Google and still have imposter syndrome is there no hope??? In my experience impostor syndrome commonly hits hard at the big ones because youre exposed to a much higher ambient level of talent and tons of outliers. It can make being a normal engineer feel like not enough sometimes, if you havent gotten a handle on it beforehand.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Didnt you get a job at Google? If you get employment at a place like Google and still have imposter syndrome is there no hope??? I was at least partially joking, but one of the things they stress during orientation is that something like 75% of people who work at Google experience imposter syndrome at some point. It's a natural reaction to working with a bunch of really smart people. It's really easy to feel like an imposter when you're working at the same place as the guy who wrote your college AI text book.
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Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:My career resolution is to hit a promo or give up and switch to an easier team that Im interested in on a human level instead of for the technoboner the project gives me. Same except contractors don't get promotions. I'm tired of carrying the team I'm working with so as we approach the end of the contract I'm going to ask if they have work they want doing on a larger team or split and find something else. Problem is, the something else might involve commuting to an office again.
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Pollyanna posted:Happy new year! Whatre your career resolutions this year? Mine is to be better about getting work done right the first time, to ask better questions, and to have more confidence. Figure out what I want my career trajectory to be. Get better at soft leadership skills / mentoring. And yeah, impostor syndrome is super-common at Google. People don't think "Hooray, Google hired me, that must mean I know what I'm doing!" so much as "Oh god, Google hired me, they must have made a mistake." Fortunately I was lucky enough to get some solid performance evaluations, so that's died down a bit for me. It's one thing to fool the interviewers about your competency, it's another to fool your teammates who you work with on a daily basis. At some point "fooling them into thinking you're competent" slides neatly into "you're actually competent."
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Pollyanna posted:Happy new year! Whatre your career resolutions this year? Code java for money. More specifically, work on back-end development and testing using Spring. This goal is likely achieved in March or April. Follow up goal: do this for a while to get any good at it. Ebay is starting up a rather large project and I know some guy who is doing the resourcing, I am trying to sell my skills there for kicks and CV building.
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Pollyanna posted:Happy new year! Whatre your career resolutions this year? 1. Get paid more 2. Advocate more for technologies I want to work with 3. Get paid more
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