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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Smarter? No. Driven? Probably. Self motivated education requires quite a bit of.. well.. motivation.


Also, a quick google search will give you a bunch of free "CS equivalent" study guides, like this one: https://github.com/mvillaloboz/open-source-cs-degree which seems to be entirely composed of free online courses offered by top-tier universities.

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Pollyanna posted:

I might be thinking of letters of recommendation, actually.

This is a little weird.

My wife had a job she was applying for last year ask for three letter of recommendation. Between the two of us it has been the only time that has been a requirement in our entire working lives.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


With a W2 contract, you will get paid whatever the agency pays you and get whatever benefits the agency gives you. It almost doesn't matter to you what the company you are placed at is paying the agency. You are almost certainly overthinking it, and the arrangement is without a doubt in favor of the contracting agency.

Because it's a W2 contract, the agency will handle tax withholding just like any other job with a W2.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I guess I don't understand.

In the context of this one job, the employment agency is going to make you an offer and either the compensation you negotiate is acceptable or it's not. I don't see how the agency's contract with any of their client companies matters to you at this stage. What are you going to do, make a counter offer directly to the company you would be placed at?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Pollyanna posted:

So according to this example (i.e. unfilled) contract template this one recruiter agency is giving me, my hourly wages for the consulting job would be "less all applicable federal, state and local tax withholdings". I assume this means that the hourly wage is pre-tax, and therefore I wouldn't get exactly $XX/hr? I was under the impression that it would be otherwise. That sours the deal a good bit, but maybe I misunderstood how this semi-W-2 setup works.

What the gently caress? This is how every W2 ever works. Your hourly wage or salary is ALWAYS the before tax and withholding number.

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It's also got a clause in there that the company (i.e. recruiting agency) can pull me off that project whenever they want, even if the client wants me there. Not sure I like that, I can imagine them figuring that I'd be useful in a totally different place and just shunting me elsewhere as we please. This might not be a good deal after all.

That's pretty standard for contracting companies. In practice though, if the client likes you and your work, you'll probably stay at that client.

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EDIT: Also something about working "only those hours requested, instructed, or approved by the client", which seems like a way to avoid paying overtime to me.

That also means you won't be working overtime.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Pollyanna posted:

Doesn't that just mean I won't be working overtime *that I get comped for*? I can see being pressured to work more than that and being let go if I refuse.

This is one thing that contract positions are usually better about. The client company isn't going to ask you to work more hours because any hours you work are going to be billed by your contracting company. The contracting company doesn't have any incentive to have you work hours that they can't bill for.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Pollyanna posted:

paid whatever the company negotiates with the client (though I’m pretty sure I have a say in that matter)

You should be less sure.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


You've been shitposting for two weeks about a job you didn't even have an offer for? jfc

And it's not that the adage doesn't apply to you, it's that you admit to being excessively selective.

I don't know your financial position, but if I were in your shoes, I'd be taking the first job that I can get and then keep looking for a good job while employed

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Or the passive aggressive option of submitting an expense report for the camera after you get hired.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I thought selling alcohol was the monetization of misery.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I'm going to get a 100% remote job and then move to a 3rd world country so I can live like a literal king.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Smugworth posted:

How's satellite internet these days?

Latency is still bad, but most other problems are solved, and is more than good enough to manage aws/gcp/azure and git push

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Good Will Hrunting posted:

You're either on the side of "yeah we can probably figure out a way to fairly distribute wealth from here on out and make sure less people abjectly suffer while still affording certain luxuries to others" or you're a selfish piece of garbage tbh. There is no middle ground.

You're either Hitler or Karl Marx there is no middle ground.







Anyway.

The obvious solution is regulated capitalism with a socialist safety net.

Now lets go talk about emacs vs vim

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Pixelboy posted:

What about cost per GB?

Hughesnet should have a plan that does 250gb for $70/month at 20Mbs

Not something to watch Netflix on, but just fine for working.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Is your therapist Joe Rogan?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


minato posted:

People on the far right of the ADD spectrum are totally useless without medication. They enter a room and forget why they went there. They frequently lose important stuff like their keys. They don't clean their apartments. It can take them hours to read a letter they got in the mail, so they forget to pay bills.

I do all of these things and have never been diagnosed, or even considered myself to have ADD.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


https://ponzicoin.co/home.html

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Pollyanna posted:

Anyone here work in fintech? What kind of stuff did you work on? Got an interview with a company that seems to do primarily high interest loans, and I’m not sure what to think of it.

Are we talking 25% car loans, or 300% payday loans here?

Because one is the devil, and the other is just run-of-the-mill oppression.


Also, lots of misplaced idealism with no outlet in this thread.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


If you aren't expecting other offers before the end of the week, you should make a decision on the first offer.


That being said, you can and should continue the interview process at the other companies.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Pollyanna posted:

They did say "all that being said, we are interested in finding something that makes sense for both of us", but I don't know how much that applies so I'm hesitant to do so.

What they meant by this is that they might be open to negotiating benefits. Vacation, Stock, etc.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


BurntCornMuffin posted:

Just lol if you think being able to shave, clean and groom daily as well as being able to handle social situations isn't extremely important in having upward mobility in any computer touching career (or, to be honest, any career).

And it’s surprising to me how few people can actually handle this

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Good Will Hrunting posted:

Why are you still posting about a hypothetical I raised that is literally unrelated to myself, whomst has expressed interest in becoming a product manager because I see how poorly interfacing between developers is across all of my jobs and teams so far? You're giving poo poo to someone who posted this:



On the same page you're posting on.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/whomst

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Good Will Hrunting posted:

Whomstdve thought you'd live up to your poster name in one mere post.

Whomstd've thought thou wouldst be more deserving mine moniker.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Gildiss posted:

How would one work on social skills though?
It seems to be a got it or you don't thing.

If someone is super goddamn awkward and they read that smiling helps, they will probably smile like a psychopath.
Or small talk and then they drone on and on and on and never loving stop talking about their funko pops and star wars.

Toastmasters or similar


Oh gently caress that

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


You have bad opinions

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Good Will Hrunting posted:

lmao nobody is gunna do that , except maybe the guy who thought I posted r/seduction in earnest

Your jokes are like that other guys opinions.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Good Will Hrunting posted:

Is CTCI the best structured review of its type for this complete slog of a thing we call "interview prep"? Or has it been superseded by something better.

In other news yeah, reflecting on my last few 1 on 1s with my new team lead, it's an upper management problem that nobody is changing anytime soon and I'm getting the gently caress out (shocking).

As far as I know, CTCI is still the best choice. If you wanted to supplement it, something like Data Structures and Algorithms Made Easy may be worth picking up.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Does foreach not count as a loop?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Just making sure that everyone in this conversation is aware that WSL is a thing.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Please don’t engage Pollyanna when they get like that.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


New Yorp New Yorp posted:

And Cygwin was a thing for decades before that.

Yeah, but first party support from Microsoft and multiple distros is a significant improvement IMO.


JawnV6 posted:

That being said, I've still got cygwin installed. The file sharing between WSL and the Windows system is janky and there's some weird delays. cygwin sees what windows sees, the home folder's right there without any digging.

Have you looked at WSL since 1803? There are some updates that are supposed to improve file system interoperability specifically. I don't know if your specific pain is addressed though.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I disagree. .NET does historically trend towards enterprise, so you never see it in "trendy" startup environments. But .NET's foothold appears to be expanding with Microsoft's commitment to open source over the last couple of years. If they can keep up the momentum, .NET will absolutely gain wider usage.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Horse Clocks posted:


P3: 3x our day rate, 4 hours a week (minimum & maximum), weekly maintenance stuff, log and metric checking, etc. 14-day turnaround on other tasks. (This is effectively our current workload, and the cost is equivalent to one of us doing one.5 days a week)

P2: 4x day rate, maximum 56 hours a week, 7 day turnaround on tasks.

P1: 6.5x day rate, drop everything, SHTF scenario.


Any advice on working out a reasonable price or any better structure?

Take your current gross income and multiply it by 2. That's your base rate.

Base*2 is your high priority day rate.

Base *4 is your after hours regular maintenance rate. (If you feel better, you can phrase this as $X/month for ongoing maintence, and budget the appropriate hours for it.)

Base*8 is your high priority after hours rate.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Autoindent

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Jaded Burnout posted:

I don’t personally think the gold standard work week provides nearly enough time off for people. Breaking the back of that is pretty high up on my priority list, though that would rule out any kind of career progression.

Getting two regular WFH days has been pretty loving spectacular for me. Next time I go on a job hunt I'm going to require 50% or more WFH, if I can't land something that 100% remote.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Why would you turn the internet off/take phone away if your goal is to evaluate how they would behave as a productive employee?

Give them access to the internet, turn on a screen recorder, and if their coding style is "copy and paste from stack overflow with no critical thought" then you know.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Would you feel better if the interviewer stayed in the room?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I believe Hrunting is interviewing for data science positions, which makes the trie question less out of right field.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jun 14, 2018

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Gildiss posted:

Oh yeah all the high school CS that we get in the public school system.
:lol:

I had CS as an AP course in a public high school, his comment didn’t seem out of the ordinary to me :shrug:

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


This is an old tweet, but maybe it will help you feel better

https://twitter.com/mxcl/status/608682016205344768?lang=en


edit: have some more

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