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kaworu posted:These two obviously have a complicated marriage, which is quite plainly not sexually intimate. So, did you get to episode 11 yet? 
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A friend asked me to describe House of Cards in one sentence. The best I could come up with is "Keyser Söze as Vice President of the USA."
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Feb 15, 2014 11:53
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Kate: Wow, Season 2! So excited! About the direction my character Zoe takes this season, about my motivations! I mean so many directions it could go, right? (Producer whispers into her ear) Kate:
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Feb 15, 2014 12:39
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The last episode was kinda awkward -- the only way the Pres calling off Tusk can be justified is if the Pres is a nice guy who doesn't want to take out a "possibly" innocent Frank. But he's clearly not above getting his hands dirty, since he instituted the whole Tusk nails Frank / gets pardon plan in the first place. So it felt like a really weird, forced moment for his character and was probably the biggest false note of the series so far. I appreciated that the hacker stuff was technically far more accurate than in virtually any other tv show I've seen. Also a nice touch is that not everyone is using "Sponsering Company" phones and computers -- there were iPhones, Blackberries, Androids, and even Windows phones used, and both Apple and PC computers. Some things were over complicated: if Frank has that super hacker guy in his pocket (via proxies), why not just do something like put child porn on that reporter's computer? Or Tusk's computer? Get them both out of the way without the need for layers of complication. I mean, that'd be a perfect way to eliminate Tusk, since there's no way the president would give a child porn guy a pardon. Could have done that in episode 4 or so ... but of course, that eliminates one of the primary conflicts for Frank way too early. And it'd also give Frank basically a trump card to be played whenever. That's the problem with introducing a character with that much power, it's like trying to make Superman feel threatened in movies. Tough to do.
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Feb 15, 2014 13:19
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Heh, having Zoe survive the first season totally tricked me into thinking that they were breaking with the UK series in that regard.TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:So, did you get to episode 11 yet? Lycus fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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Feb 15, 2014 13:39
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regulargonzalez posted:The last episode was kinda awkward -- the only way the Pres calling off Tusk can be justified is if the Pres is a nice guy who doesn't want to take out a "possibly" innocent Frank. But he's clearly not above getting his hands dirty, since he instituted the whole Tusk nails Frank / gets pardon plan in the first place. So it felt like a really weird, forced moment for his character and was probably the biggest false note of the series so far. Raymond Tusk is a mega billionaire who deals with the Chineese all the time. Why on earth would he be remotely hackable especially with just one guy. The only reason he was able to get into the phone company was because the FBI pretty much let a guy put a dongle with who knows what programs on the server. eta- I hope in season 3 I hope Freddy becomes the White House Executive Chef. eta2- Also that the reinactor who played Franks ancestor becomes an advisor, but is never allowed to break character. Zythrst fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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Feb 15, 2014 13:41
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Just finished episode 11 and welp. The thought that it might happen was in the back of my mind but I never really thought they'd go that far. Also, while I still like the show, that's by far the most interested I've been in what's happened since the premiere. Without a Russo figure there's a lot less of a reason to care about anyone. None of the supporting characters right now are really filling the void he left; most of the stories aren't more than mildly intriguing to me, or interesting to watch play out without really caring about the people behind them. Still, I'll finish it tonight after work. Gotta admit I really don't know where they're going with anything, but I hope Freddy gets another look in, because the way he was screwed over felt so lazily-written and out of nowhere.
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Feb 15, 2014 14:27
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I know I'm five pages late but holy poo poo. E: Man, I am SO glad that didn't get spoiled for me. I've never seen the UK version or anything and didn't see this coming at all.
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Feb 15, 2014 14:35
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Lycus posted:When the drinks came out, I was like "Claire is totally going to sleep with the bodyguard. It's obvious." That scene took an unexpected turn. Not to be "that goon" or anything, but I was kinda peeved at the way the shot of two guys kissing slid off the screen just as they connected, and was almost immediately replaced by two women writhing all over each other. I get what was going on in terms of narrative, (and I can definitely see why some of y'all wouldn't complain!) but it was a bit of an awkward double-standard.
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Feb 15, 2014 14:54
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Episode 8  Poor Freddy
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Feb 15, 2014 14:54
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So I'm not going to read this thread because I haven't finished yet, but that moment at the end of ep 1 where Frank first turns to the audience is probably one of the best TV moments I've ever seen.
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Feb 15, 2014 15:43
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Lycus posted:Heh, having Zoe survive the first season totally tricked me into thinking that they were breaking with the UK series in that regard. They are and they aren't. I mean, Stamper was supposed to die too but not in that way. And the circumstances of Rachel's death are a bit different (there wasn't any Oedipus thing going on with them still and she had no real evidence on Underwood, just suspicion). I loved the Stamper character, but the way he handled Rachel made me perfectly fine with what happened. She was doing everything he asked and he still hung a Sword of Damocles over her head. Instead of trying to work out his own issues with a sponsor or something, he allowed his obsession with her to get in the way. And like he said, he just traded one addiction for another. I really felt sorry for Rachel and if he gave her just a little bit of space and freedom, he would still be alive. No one was looking for her and the only person who found her was a hacker and that was because of Doug. And even then, that hacker wanted Doug to protect him, not extort him. If he learned anything from Frank, everything would have been fine. But he didn't so he died. Or maybe he is in the woods in a coma dying from exposure. Whatever the case, a strong second season, better than the first.
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Feb 15, 2014 15:43
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My favorite line so far that I've seen (my partner is the one watching the show) "Next thing you're going to do is ask me when I stopped strangling my neighbour's pets."
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Feb 15, 2014 15:52
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Dapper Dan posted:Whatever the case, a strong second season, better than the first. 
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Feb 15, 2014 18:51
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Finished the first episode, and as a resident of DC, let me just say I'll never look at delays on the Red Line the same way ever again. 
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Lycus posted:Heh, having Zoe survive the first season totally tricked me into thinking that they were breaking with the UK series in that regard. I thought it was unexpected too, but looking back it really, really wasn't. Like there's the obvious stuff, like his old military friends from season 1, plus how Zoe said neither of them ever actually enjoyed the sex they were having, it was just a show of power and dominance. And of course how his marriage seems to be totally devoid and of any kind of a physical relationship. But there's other things too, like how he refused birthday gifts from everyone (even Claire), but not only accepted Meacham's gift by seemed flattered by it. He also acted incredibly nice to him throughout both seasons, which is uncharacteristic because Frank is literally only nice to people that he has a use for. There's other details I'm forgetting but it was all actually foreshadowed pretty well. Orange Crush Rush fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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Feb 15, 2014 19:09
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TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:So, did you get to episode 11 yet? I just finished episode 11...  ...but things make so much sense now.
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Robzilla posted:Understatement. Also... Him pounding the desk needs to be a gif like yesterday.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:02
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I thought season 2 was much much better than season 1. The higher stakes and more coherent story lines made some of the convoluted stuff easier to swallow. I'm also really glad they dialed back all of the talking to the camera. It just made it silly but there was much less of it in season 2. The joke among my friends was that everyone can hear Frank talking to the audience but they're too terrified of his power to mention it out loud.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:04
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Tusk killing that bird. That was the biggest "holy poo poo" moment since the end of episode one.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:04
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Him pounding the desk needs to be a gif like yesterday. I was waiting for him to double-tap the desk the entire scene.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:05
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Episode one made me really depressed. Hitting harder than Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones combined. Does it get happier?
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Feb 15, 2014 21:28
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The Rachel subplot was honestly probably the weak point to this season. the stamper. obsession was just weird and weak and I get he's am addict and became addicted to her but idk.. it just felt out of step with the rest of the plot, like this unnecessary dangling thread that didn't belong in s2
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Feb 15, 2014 22:03
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I guess they had to keep the Rachel subplot because they chose to end the snooping journalist subplot, but weren't willing to take Frank being at risk of being caught for the murder of Russo out of play.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:10
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No Mods No Masters posted:I guess they had to keep the Rachel subplot because they chose to end the snooping journalist subplot, but weren't willing to take Frank being at risk of being caught for the murder of Russo out of play. but it just felt like such a weak thread compared to all the other poo poo swirling around. A trade war with China, orchestrating a the downfall of POTUS, and then it cuts over to Stamper creeping on this poor girl. Idk it just resonated very flat with me in an otherwise awesome season (the stakes felt way higher than they were in s1)
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Feb 15, 2014 22:13
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I just started watching season 2 so I'm not reading any other posts besides direct replies to mine. Can someone recap the season 1 storyline with this guy reporter who goes to the cops to try to get them to arrest Frank in the first episode of season 2? I'm completely spacing on who this guy is and what happened between him and frank, and who the girl is who jumped off the subway platform. I should probably remember this but binge watching really makes everything bleed together, haha.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:14
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Damiya posted:but it just felt like such a weak thread compared to all the other poo poo swirling around. A trade war with China, orchestrating a the downfall of POTUS, and then it cuts over to Stamper creeping on this poor girl. I rationalized it like this: How often is a powerful man's personal life his Achilles Heel?
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Feb 15, 2014 22:16
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-Blackadder- posted:and who the girl is who jumped off the subway platform. Lycus fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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Feb 15, 2014 22:18
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What a great season. That ending was perfect. Except now I feel there is only one way season 3 can end: After having an orgy on top of the presidential desk with Claire, Remy, Ed, and Catherine, Francis Underwood will reveal himself as the anti-christ. He will brand his army with his mark (FU) and begin his march on Israel, ushering in a thousand years of darkness and despair.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:18
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-Blackadder- posted:I just started watching season 2 so I'm not reading any other posts besides direct replies to mine. I started to do what you ask here, then thought 'why am I doing that?' since you clearly didn't pay attention to anything. Including the episode you just watched. eta- I guess that comes off as harsh, but I mean they show her clearly being pushed. Zythrst fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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Feb 15, 2014 22:19
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yeah how do you not even remember like the third or fourth main character of season 1 Just finished s2. The way everything came together was very nice, and even though you could see the ending coming a mile off it was suitably dramatic and well-acted and exciting. Overall a stronger season than the first, but like No Wave said there wasn't one really strong character to care about like Russo. House of Cards isn't on the level of great TV for me but it's insanely fun and well-made and the higher the stakes get the more I enjoy it so season 3 should be a blast. Just gotta wait another year
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Feb 15, 2014 22:23
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I'm not even halfway through the first episode yet. I remember the reporter, Zoe Barnes, I just don't remember her death or what lead to it, or for the most part who this reporter guy is beyond that I remember him being her editor. I was just looking for a recap of season 1 to refresh my memory on all the players.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:23
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-Blackadder- posted:I'm not even halfway through the first episode yet. I remember the reporter, Zoe Barnes, I just don't remember her death or what lead to it, or for the most part who this reporter guy is beyond that I remember him being her editor. Are you sure your watching episdode 1? eta- That guy is Lucas and he was also kind of her boyfriend I guess at that point.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:24
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I think you missed the first episode, dude.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:24
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-Blackadder- posted:I'm not even halfway through the first episode yet. I remember the reporter, Zoe Barnes, I just don't remember her death or what lead to it, *head scratch* Well, if you're halfway through the first episode, then you haven't actually gotten to her death yet. -Blackadder- posted:or for the most part who this reporter guy is beyond that I remember him being her editor. He's just her boyfriend/ex-superior, who was helping her after she started turning against Underwood. Lycus fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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Feb 15, 2014 22:25
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Zythrst posted:Are you sure your watching episdode 1? Bown posted:I think you missed the first episode, dude. Lycus posted:*head scratch* Well, if you're halfway through the first episode, then you haven't actually gotten to her death yet. Oh, well, gently caress, well that explains why I was lost as poo poo. I could've sworn I clicked on the first episode in the list. And oh, hey look, episode 1 even has a convenient "previously on", ahaha, ah goddammit.  Anyway, thanks to those who provided actual helpful replies. e: vvv yep that's what happened to me, too. The first episode is a big enlarged picture and the rest are in a smaller list below. I just clicked the first one on the list. Ugh, ah well. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Feb 16, 2014 |
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Feb 15, 2014 22:34
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I accidentally clicked on the second episode when I first went on the site, actually. It's above the rest which are all grouped together so I just clicked on the first one in that list.
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Feb 15, 2014 22:37
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I don't know which was more unbelievable, the Meechum threeway or the president and his wife going on tv to say "Hey, everyone, we're in therapy!" Some of the decisions Walker made really felt kinda strong-armed in by the writers sometimes. Still a really fun show to watch.
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On episode 11 at this point. Feel like the early and middle goings were weaker than the first season equivalents, but this thing is on track to finish strong. Some thoughts: - All the journalism poo poo this season has felt really off. I liked Zoe as a character, I liked Janine as a character. For what I'm assuming are complicated reasons that involve some real-world logistics and UK-version continuity (especially with Zoe), they dropped both those characters and gave the plot to Lucas, who is the most boring poo poo of a character. Ayla is aight, but I haven't seen anything to the character so far besides "sharp, steely investigative reporter". Also Tom is a little uncomfortable for me as a character given how much they seem to portray him as a principled journalist and overall good dude who just happens to have this lovely misogynist streak. - On the plus side, the journalism elements of this season did introduce us to Gavin, who owns. Also what kind of animal is Cashew, I feel dumb for not knowing. - Jackie's cool, and Remy has always been my favorite character. Happy that those two are a thing. Hoping that Remy ends the season in a position of power. Always felt like he got the short shrift from Francis with all the "Heh, look at this scrub who likes money and not power" poo poo. - Frank has largely continued to be a cypher with that aforementioned "thirst for power", and it's honestly felt like an ouroboros for a while now. "I want power, which will let me do the things I want. Those things are largely getting more power". Dude doesn't seem to have any principles or an endgame, and it's really hard to imagine what he'd actually do if he ended up on the top of the heap. No pet policies, no interests he seems to be invested in protecting or advancing - it's not a bad thing for a character, certainly a realistic thing for some old white dude to be power-hungry for the sake of it, but it still feels a little weird. Netflix tells me the show's tagline is "Bad, for a greater good". What greater good has even slightly been mentioned? - The brief arc about the government shutdown felt really boring. Largely felt like a retread of the education fight from last season, without any of the things that made the education fight so fun to watch (the TV debate fuckup, the fundraiser and accompanying teamster protests, the punch, etc.) I guess it's what led Remy and Jackie to get together? That's about all I can say in its favor. - Xander Feng owns bones. I don't disagree at all with the goon who said he felt like a copy-pasted villain from a bad action movie, but that's the charm. HoC does melodrama really well, and he is one melodramatic motherfucker.
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:I don't know which was more unbelievable, the Meechum threeway or the president and his wife going on tv to say "Hey, everyone, we're in therapy!" Some of the decisions Walker made really felt kinda strong-armed in by the writers sometimes. Well they were caught going to counsiling though, what else would they do deny it?
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