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EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien
Females! No! Female butterflies you freak!!!

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Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

their lil poopers posted:

so you say female to include pedo poo poo into it too?

everyone says male and female because it's part of the vernacular, and to try and change it arbitrarily to frustrate some purely internet-based group you don't like betrays your lack of priorities and irl social outlets

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
don't say "individual", say human being. it really bothers those furry and otherkin freaks, haha!

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

butplug accident posted:

everyone says male and female because it's part of the vernacular, and to try and change it arbitrarily to frustrate some purely internet-based group you don't like betrays your lack of priorities and irl social outlets

Its not really part of the vernacular though. If I hear someone in real life refer to women as "females" it's jarring and awkward. Only one female person I know does it and it's not just me (an internet feminist dumbass) who picks up on it as sounding weird.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
imo virgins should have to use "female" so they don't get their fathers' hopes up when they say they're hanging out with their "girl friends"

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
People in the military use "females" I think.

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

Shannonmcn posted:

Its not really part of the vernacular though. If I hear someone in real life refer to women as "females" it's jarring and awkward. Only one female person I know does it and it's not just me (an internet feminist dumbass) who picks up on it as sounding weird.

be the cool kind of feminist who knows word policing is an empty bourgeois exercise

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
a lot of dudes I know use it. they're black

messagemode1
Jun 9, 2006

butplug accident posted:

everyone says male and female because it's part of the vernacular, and to try and change it arbitrarily to frustrate some purely internet-based group you don't like betrays your lack of priorities and irl social outlets

No one says males though.

It's always men. Everything is men.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

butplug accident posted:

everyone says male and female because it's part of the vernacular, and to try and change it arbitrarily to frustrate some purely internet-based group you don't like betrays your lack of priorities and irl social outlets

but the point people are getting at is that the connotations of the word choice imply that the speaker does not view the subject as a real person and is disaffected like a VO in a nature documentary. Don't try to split hairs here and look at the whole picture. This isn't about the word female in itself but about the way spurned misogynists use it

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics

messagemode1 posted:

No one says males though.

It's always men. Everything is men.

men ftw

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Cucking Mama posted:

a lot of dudes I know use it. they're black

Is it okay for a black to say it?

:siren:WORD POLICE:siren:

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
I think so

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
the people who are splitting hairs are the ones who think words turn into slurs the moment some nothing internet group starts using it. i'm not saying slurs like "friend of the family" are nothing but words, but have some loving perspective lmao

some nerd should do a frequency analysis of common written text so we can see if "male" would come up as often as "female", but i suspect the text sources would be livejournals and internet forums

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

butplug accident posted:

the people who are splitting hairs are the ones who think words turn into slurs the moment some nothing internet group starts using it. i'm not saying slurs like "friend of the family" are nothing but words, but have some loving perspective lmao

some nerd should do a frequency analysis of common written text so we can see if "male" would come up as often as "female", but i suspect the text sources would be livejournals and internet forums

No one is forcing you not to say words. You're not being arrested. It's just the wrong word. Like saying "mammal" when you're talking about a dog or something.

Use it if you like but there's an implicit connotation when you do. That you're a spergy weirdo. Like the rest of the people who insist on using it.

Grayly Squirrel
Apr 10, 2008

butplug accident posted:

the people who are splitting hairs are the ones who think words turn into slurs the moment some nothing internet group starts using it. i'm not saying slurs like "friend of the family" are nothing but words, but have some loving perspective lmao

some nerd should do a frequency analysis of common written text so we can see if "male" would come up as often as "female", but i suspect the text sources would be livejournals and internet forums

You must be such a loving blast at parties.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
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It's in the context it's used by the person using it, I think.
I wouldn't find it weird to hear it used by someone doing a study of all human females.
I would find it weird to hear it used like, "There was an HB10 white female on the bus, did I ever want to cream in her."

When used by MRA types it always sounds like they are referring to women like test subjects/objects as opposed to human beings. I guess I think it's weird to call men males in the same way. And yeah, blacks too. "There was a black on the bus." "There was a black dude on the bus."

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
I've never met a mra irl. I don't think there's a lot of them

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
MRA isn't a thing outside the internet and they definitely never mass murder people.
Females like pink because in caveman times they used to pick berries.

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
have you met a mra irl?

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

lidnsya posted:

MRA isn't a thing outside the internet and they definitely never mass murder people.
Females like pink because in caveman times they used to pick berries.

when a muslim suicide bomber commits mass murder, its really bad to say that islam was the cause. but when a mra virgin does it, it's really good to say mens rights was the cause

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Cucking Mama posted:

have you met a mra irl?

Nobody has, nobody survives the encounter

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

butplug accident posted:

when a muslim suicide bomber commits mass murder, its really bad to say that islam was the cause. but when a mra virgin does it, it's really good to say mens rights was the cause

I still think islam was teh cause in the second one.

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

We caught my uncle making really horrible racist comments on YouTube a few years ago and it was all brushed under the carpet as "oh its just the internet, he'd never actually be a racist in real life" and a few months later he's up in court for chasing a black man away from the door shouting racist abuse when he came collecting money for a charity.

He's like a 40yo virgin as well so he's probably an MRA by now.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Shannonmcn posted:

We caught my uncle making really horrible racist comments on YouTube a few years ago and it was all brushed under the carpet as "oh its just the internet, he'd never actually be a racist in real life" and a few months later he's up in court for chasing a black man away from the door shouting racist abuse when he came collecting money for a charity.

He's like a 40yo virgin as well so he's probably an MRA by now.

Early onset dementia?

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
I have two friends who post voiceformen poo poo all the time that I have to call on their bullshit.
I know many Nice Guys who believe MRA crap.
I dated a guy whose best friend was a straight-up, gross as it gets, PUA.

I don't think someone has to identify as MRA or PUA or incel to be one, just like someone who stands up for women's equality won't necessarily identify as a feminist.

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Jack Gladney posted:

Early onset dementia?

Nah he's just a oval office with no life. Being white is literally the only thing going for him.

He did get me an N64 when they were brand new tho so I still buy him socks for Christmas.

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

their lil poopers posted:

I still think islam was teh cause in the second one.

Actually it was anime

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

Actually it was anime


Is there an islamic anime, or an anime about islam?

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
islamnime

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
there already is a jewish anime (Anime Isreal) so I figured there would be others

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




their lil poopers posted:

so you say female to include pedo poo poo into it too?

I don't think teenage or younger girls having self esteem issues has anything to do with pedophilia but I dunno. This seems like kind of a stupid thing to say, this thing you've said.

messagemode1
Jun 9, 2006

The male equivalent to "female" in mra/pua lingo is probably "beta."

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

their lil poopers posted:

Is there an islamic anime, or an anime about islam?

There is islamic superhero comics at least

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Chairchucker posted:

I don't think teenage or younger girls having self esteem issues has anything to do with pedophilia but I dunno. This seems like kind of a stupid thing to say, this thing you've said.

keeping to the word use connotation theme, would it have been more clear if I used "ephebophile"

Juche Fucktodd
Nov 2, 2012

to change the forums
there is anime of everything that has ever existed

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

messagemode1 posted:

The male equivalent to "female" in mra/pua lingo is probably "beta."

lol

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




their lil poopers posted:

keeping to the word use connotation theme, would it have been more clear if I used "ephebophile"

This has nothing to do with anyone being attracted to anyone else. It isn't more clear, it is completely irrelevant.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Juche Fucktodd posted:

there is anime of everything that has ever existed

Anime Is Real

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Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car
We need another war

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