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| Verity Lambert |
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49 | 7.04% |
| John Wiles |
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1 | 0.14% |
| Innes Lloyd |
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1 | 0.14% |
| Peter Bryant |
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3 | 0.43% |
| Derrick Sherwin |
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3 | 0.43% |
| Barry Letts |
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12 | 1.72% |
| Phillip Hinchcliffe |
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62 | 8.91% |
| Graham Williams |
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3 | 0.43% |
| John Nathan-Turner |
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15 | 2.16% |
| Philip Segal |
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3 | 0.43% |
| Russel T Davies |
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106 | 15.23% |
| Steven Moffat |
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114 | 16.38% |
| Son Goku |
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324 | 46.55% |
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We are talking about subjective opinions here, so there's no way to say that there was a trend one way or the other. Personally I thought the back half of season 7 had a pretty drat good average, even the "worst" episodes like Cold War were still quite good. Season 6 is probably the weakest Matt Smith season as a whole, but it also includes some of the best individual episodes of the revival. I still think Nightmare in Silver was terrible though.
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Jul 15, 2014 09:19
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I preferred Cold War to Rings of Akhaten.
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Jul 15, 2014 09:25
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My big issue with Cold War is that it could have been so much better, there's a lot of potential I don't think is realized. I did love the update on the Ice Warrior costume, but was far less impressed with the "inner ice warrior" reveal, especially the rather lackluster CGI. It's still a good episode, I just felt like it could have been more. I fully expected to find Rings of Akhaten to be underwhelming and was pleasantly surprised to be swept up in the magical, optimistic feeling of it all. If it hadn't succeeded in doing that for me though, I can imagine the cracks would have been quite apparent.
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Jul 15, 2014 09:40
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The only thing that I'd be willing to give Rings of Akhaten is that it was great to see the Doctor whip out one of his big, fancy speeches and self-sacrifices and have it not work. Other than that, it's kind of a mediocre episode, I wasn't all that nto it. Cold War I did like, though.
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Jul 15, 2014 10:51
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I know I'm a broken record on this but I just want to point out again that I'm pretty sure his "big scary speech to frighten the bad guys" thing has backfired more often than it has actually worked. He uses it in the Library 2-parter in season 4 and in The Eleventh Hour at the start of season 5 and it works. He uses it again in The Pandorica Opens at the end of season 5 and thinks it has worked, but his enemies are just playing along to bait him further into their trap and it's actually a really neat counter to The Eleventh Hour since it was that arrogance that allowed The Alliance to End Doctormania to form in the first place. He uses it in A Good Man Goes To War and it seems to work, only for it to end up being part of yet another trap to allow the Headless Monks to get the drop on them. He uses it Rings of Akhaten and it turns out not to be enough to stop the "God", and regular old human Clara ends up being the one who saves the day instead. Also he uses it in The Day of the Doctor and it turns out to be a rabbit he's threatening. 
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Jul 15, 2014 11:19
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The big scary speech to frighten the bad guy thing isn't so bad, anyway. It gives the person playing the Doctor a chance to chew on the scenery, the Murray Gold dramatic buildup music a chance to do its job and actually fit, and it allows the Doctor to explain what his plans are. It would be nice if, instead of always being "I'm the Doctor, I'm a million years old and I've seen amazing things. I'm really really great, and terrible, in a great way, and you should be scared of me because of the terrible greatness" it was a little more like "I'm the Doctor, and if it's one thing I have experience with, it's gravity. I've seen the gravity controls for over a million spaceships, and yours was frankly a cinch to work out, so that sinking feeling you're getting right now? It's literally a sinking feeling. You're sinking." If he's going to pat himself on the back, I'd rather it be about whatever the heck he's doing than reciting his made up age and a bunch of oncoming storm stuff.
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Jul 15, 2014 14:17
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Hmm...I just thought of something. So next year is the 10th anniversary of the new series, right? And Capaldi seems intent on playing the Third Doctor 2... David and Matt love the part and are up to return pretty much anytime... You know what that means right?  
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Jul 15, 2014 14:19
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The more I think about it, the more I see Peter Capaldi acting like Christopher Lee did on the set of The Lord of the Rings, constantly correcting Moffat on things. PC: Do you know the noise a Dalek makes when it dies? SM: No. PC: Well I do because I killed one! SM: But Daleks aren’t real… PC: Because. I. Killed. One. SM: …right, Peter. Whatever you say. Get the sound crew back, we’re working overtime tonight! X X X X X SM: How do you know so much about the show, Peter? PC: Because I rewatch it every year. SM: What episodes? PC: …I rewatch it. Every year. SM: All of it? PC: All of it. SM: Even The Daemons? PC: ESPECIALLY The Daemons.
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Jul 15, 2014 15:39
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Why have you picked The Daemons out? It's generally regarded as a good story and definitely much better than some of the tripe.
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Jul 15, 2014 15:42
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You know, I bet I could ask Capaldi what his favorite Big Finish audio is, and it'd be something by Shearman (because he'd have good taste). ...Do you think it would be alright to... kiss Peter?
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Jul 15, 2014 15:45
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The Daemons is great. Featuring one of my all time favourite Master disguises, Reverend Magister.
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Jul 15, 2014 15:49
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Why have you picked The Daemons out? It's generally regarded as a good story and definitely much better than some of the tripe. Because the more I see of the Third Doctor, the more I think Capaldi is going to channel him, so I picked a GOOD Third Doctor story. (The Daemons is very solid, worth a watch!) DoctorWhat posted:...Do you think it would be alright to... kiss Peter? It’s comments like this that cause unrest.
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Jul 15, 2014 15:54
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Why have you picked The Daemons out? It's generally regarded as a good story and definitely much better than some of the tripe. It's the sort of thing GMS would say, though: http://doctorwho.org.nz/archive/tsv43/onediscussion.html quote:I'm talking retrospectively now, when I look back at Doctor Who now. I laugh at it, fondly. As a television professional, I think how did these guys get a paycheck every week? Dear god, it's bad! Nothing I've seen of the black and white stuff - with the exception of the pilot, the first episode - should have got out of the building. They should have been clubbing those guys to death! You've got an old guy in the lead who can't remember his lines; you've got Patrick Troughton, who was a good actor, but his companions - how did they get their Equity card? Explain that! They're unimaginably bad. Once you get to the colour stuff some of it's watchable, but it's laughable. Then he goes on to defend the Davison era... quote:Peter Davison is a better actor than all the other ones, that's the simple reason why he works more than all the other ones. There is no sophisticated, complicated reason to explain why Peter Davison carried on working and all the other Doctors disappeared into a retirement home for lardies. ...and somehow none of the others ask him "What about the Myrka?"
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Jul 15, 2014 15:57
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Trin Tragula posted:...and somehow none of the others ask him "What about the Myrka?" What ABOUT the Myrka?!? Some say it's a classic!
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Jul 15, 2014 16:00
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More like "Warriors on the Cheap".
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Jul 15, 2014 16:02
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CobiWann posted:What ABOUT the Myrka?!? Some say it's a classic! No one says this. No one.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:11
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Trin Tragula posted:It's the sort of thing GMS would say, though: Now, in fairness, that was from about 20 years ago, and I'd like to think he's wised up at least a litle since then. That being said, there's probably a certain appropriateness that Moffat's favourite era of the programme was the one where JNT and Eric Saward had the run of things. I've read that Moffat and RTD have both named "The Ark In Space" as their favourite classic serial, but I've never thought to see what each of them would have taken away from it that the other didn't.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:22
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Trin Tragula posted:It's the sort of thing GMS would say, though: At last, we have the truth. Mattdizzle is Steven Moffat. I actually think the Second Doctor had some of the best companions. I'm admittedly not a huge fan of Ben and Polly, but almost everybody likes Jaime. Victoria mostly exists to scream in terms of the plot, but it's fun to watch her and Jaime react to each other and it sets up a nice contrast for Zoe once she shows up. Zoe is that rare occasion in which somebody wrote a precocious, teenage genius and managed to have it be endearing rather than obnoxious.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:46
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Vic's best serial, I think...mostly because I haven't seen Evil of the Daleks...was Tomb of the Cybermen, where her only fit of screaming was fake to distract some one, and she was wonderfully sarcastic towards the AMERICAN space captain. That and that wonderful moment between her and the Second Doctor.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:56
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Metal Loaf posted:Now, in fairness, that was from about 20 years ago, and I'd like to think he's wised up at least a litle since then. That being said, there's probably a certain appropriateness that Moffat's favourite era of the programme was the one where JNT and Eric Saward had the run of things. Well, The Ark in Space is the Best, so of course.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:57
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It is always unfair to me to label anything from the Fourth Doctor's era as the best, because he simply is The Doctor. It's like trying to pick your favorite rendition of You Ain't Nothing But A Hound Dog and always going with the original instead of one of the impersonators, even if they are better singers.
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Jul 15, 2014 17:05
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Ika posted:Mainly the company bootstrap inc which is owned by the main POV character in the manifold time book. (And I believe also in the other manifold books, but I haven't read them yet.) I have read them several times and I still find Cornelius' descriptions of images for the far far future (the far downstream) incredibly evocative and, in the end, chilling and fatalistic. quote:Reid Malenfant The trilogy consists of three books: Manifold: Time. Manifold: Space. Manifold: Origin. They do all include Reid Malenfant as the main character, and all three are incredibly far-reaching in scope. They're just the thing to scratch that itch if you like reading "hard" science fiction. They're not huge books, just dense. I love them. Bear in mind, they are three takes on three topics and not one series of adventures starring the same guy from one book to the next. They each stand alone as studies of different themes, only with recurring characters. Not trying to start a derail. I'm actually trying to catch up a bit on all the Who universe stuff before August because I'm an old who started watching Dr. Who on PBS and Tom Baker will always be my Doctor. I love the ideas surrounding this Capaldi person and it should be refreshing to see an older actor playing the Doctor again. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Jul 15, 2014 22:35
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DoctorWhat posted:Well, The Ark in Space is the Best, so of course. The Ark in Space has always been something I admire rather than like, if you see what I mean. It's very good, and it does a lot of things very effectively, and it has a few wonderful moments, and the first episode is seriously close to masterpiece status...but something about it as a whole just leaves me slightly cold, and no, it's not the bubble wrap. There's something missing that (say) The Robots of Death, The Deadly Assassin, Horror of Fang Rock and Kinda all have, and I've not ever been minded to do the necessary comparative thinking to find out exactly why that is.
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Jul 15, 2014 22:55
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Cleretic posted:The only thing that I'd be willing to give Rings of Akhaten is that it was great to see the Doctor whip out one of his big, fancy speeches and self-sacrifices and have it not work. Other than that, it's kind of a mediocre episode, I wasn't all that nto it. I did like Rings quite a bit. I think the only part I really disliked was when the Doctor held up a hundreds of pounds weighing door by waving his screwdriver. It was great to have John Hurt call the show out for how much the sonic was overused.
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Jul 15, 2014 22:58
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Dr. Faustus posted:Manifold stuff. I'm planning on reading the other two sometime in the next few months, I like to alternate between space opera, fantasy, urban fantasy, etc. The reveal at the end of manifold time was amazing, the entire point of an universe with intelligent life was to for the intelligent life to advance to the point where it creates as many more universes as possible. I'm still open for more suggestions for doctor who books. Human nature is proving hard to find, unless I want it shipped over from new Zealand. It was written by the same guy as London falling which I enjoyed so I have high hopes for it.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:04
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marktheando posted:The Daemons is great. Featuring one of my all time favourite Master disguises, Reverend Magister. I have a colleague in another office (who I've never met) whose surname is Le Maître. I'm onto him.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:06
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The_Doctor posted:I have a colleague in another office (who I've never met) whose surname is Le Maître. I'm onto him. This had better be magical!!!
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Jul 15, 2014 23:07
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Ika posted:
It's available on the android market in e-book form, if you aren't adverse to the format. There's a lot of Doctor Who books on there, I haven't looked for the Virgin New Adventures though, not sure about them. Here in Southern California, I have never run in to a Doctor Who book in the wild, no matter how many used book stores I visit.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:13
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I saw some of the EDAs in a used bookshop in Greenwich while I was in the UK, but it was one of the crummy ones no one (including me) remembers.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:15
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I checked abebooks and they don't even have used copies. I usually buy physical books because I stare at a screen all day at work and most of my books end up being loaned to at least 2 others. I'm not going to be in London or UK for a while 
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Jul 15, 2014 23:19
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Bicyclops posted:At last, we have the truth. Mattdizzle is Steven Moffat. I'm pretty sure there is a later interview with Moffat where what he said about the older Who stuff is brought up and he says something along the lines of,"God what an idiot I was, and plainly completely in the wrong."
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Jul 15, 2014 23:23
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Bicyclops posted:Zoe is that rare occasion in which somebody wrote a precocious, teenage genius and managed to have it be endearing rather than obnoxious. Part of this, I think, is because she actually does all of the "smart" stuff for the group. If there's a computer needs looking into, mysterious quiz needs taking, puzzle needs solving, etc. Zoe is usually the one who does it. Showing, not telling. When she and the Doctor do get into arguments, she always comes off looking good, having a point or a different perspective, rather than just being petulant. Which is a far cry from the usual "This character is smart because everyone keeps saying so. Especially because they keep telling people they're so smart in a very snarky way" school usually seen today.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:27
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Jurgan posted:It was great to have John Hurt. Yes it was.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:29
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Burkion posted:Yes it was. Because of the wording in the contract giving Big Finish access to all pre-Eccleston Doctors, BF produces a new line of audio adventures featuring John Hurt's adventures during the Time War and of course he meets with his earlier incarnations too because this is my fantasy and what I say goes.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:33
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Potsticker posted:Because of the wording in the contract giving Big Finish access to all pre-Eccleston Doctors, BF produces a new line of audio adventures featuring John Hurt's adventures during the Time War and of course he meets with his earlier incarnations too because this is my fantasy and what I say goes. Briggs tries to get around the restriction when he announces a post-revival Doctor will be appearing in a line of Big Finish as a character called,"The Phwoaar Doctor" - pre-sales are through the roof due to a large number of soon to be disappointed David Tennant fans.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:42
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Arglebargle III posted:Was any of the Matt Smith stuff not garbage? Day of the Doctor was great, and I personally enjoyed series 7, since my biggest problem character-wise with Eleven's run was Amy Pond and not Matt Smith himself. If you don't like it, though, there's no point in forcing yourself (except it might make Capaldi look that much better to you).
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Jul 15, 2014 23:42
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Hit or miss Clitoris posted:It's available on the android market in e-book form, if you aren't adverse to the format. There's a lot of Doctor Who books on there, I haven't looked for the Virgin New Adventures though, not sure about them. Man, years ago (1999) I went in a used book store, and someone hold sold off an awesome amount of Target novels. Ended ended up buying one of each, which came to 77 books, which wasn't counting the Target books I had already owned. Mind you, most of mine were from the last print runs (the ones with the awesome Alister Pearson covers, and these were all the ones before that.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:54
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Jerusalem posted:I'm pretty sure there is a later interview with Moffat where what he said about the older Who stuff is brought up and he says something along the lines of,"God what an idiot I was, and plainly completely in the wrong." He says the same thing about his attitude towards women and it's still lovely to this day.
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Jul 15, 2014 23:58
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Jerusalem posted:Briggs tries to get around the restriction when he announces a post-revival Doctor will be appearing in a line of Big Finish as a character called,"The Phwoaar Doctor" - pre-sales are through the roof due to a large number of soon to be disappointed David Tennant fans. Christopher Eccleston announces he will work with Big Finish...in Series 3 of Survivors.
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I hate to say it but I don't see Eccleston ever working with Big Finish. He clearly doesn't have any affection for the role in the same way that series fans like Tennant and Capaldi do, and he doesn't do anything that doesn't grab him immediately apparently, and I just don't see the idea of some audio adventures doing that.
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