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Verity Lambert | 49 | 7.04% | |
John Wiles | 1 | 0.14% | |
Innes Lloyd | 1 | 0.14% | |
Peter Bryant | 3 | 0.43% | |
Derrick Sherwin | 3 | 0.43% | |
Barry Letts | 12 | 1.72% | |
Phillip Hinchcliffe | 62 | 8.91% | |
Graham Williams | 3 | 0.43% | |
John Nathan-Turner | 15 | 2.16% | |
Philip Segal | 3 | 0.43% | |
Russel T Davies | 106 | 15.23% | |
Steven Moffat | 114 | 16.38% | |
Son Goku | 324 | 46.55% | |
Total: | 696 votes |
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Android Blues posted:The Doctor has always killed people constantly, Ten is just showboating smugly about how great he is. To be more charitable to him, Doctor Who only really has a loose illusion of continuity, so it's probably fine for him to be "the man who never would!" in that episode and then go on to have an episode where he kills things (or worse, Family of Blood). I kind of think that, after the Time War, the Doctor resolved not to kill anymore unless absolutely necessary (the end of Nine's arc was literally him saying he would not repeat killing two species at once). That doesn't mean he never did it, of course- he wasn't perfect. But wasn't "a man who never would" talking about executing someone in cold blood? Granted, it was very over the top and showy.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2014 21:02 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 10:36 |
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Jerusalem posted:I'm actually dreading that, I don't think there needs to be any explanation at all. They didn't need to explain why Karen Gillan appeared in Fires of Pompeii (because she's an actor is why) and those little nods to Eve Myles and Freema Agyeman's previous appearances just made me roll my eyes. It turns out they're all River Song.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2014 01:51 |
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DoctorWhat posted:So the Ianto Shrine is apparantly a real thing that exists and it's got fresh flowers all over and??? Torchwood had its ups and downs (sexy Cyberwoman? what the hell?), but Children of Earth was absolutely brilliant, and anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2014 15:54 |
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Potsticker posted:1) It's a wikia page I wouldn't feel right voting on something like that, because I just don't have the knowledge. If it were only New Who I would, but I don't feel it would be fair to vote for Tennant or whatever as better than people I've never seen. Unfortunately, I'm sure a lot of the voters there don't feel that way, and that biases the list towards the recent. See also: imdb top 250 list (Dark Knight the fourth best movie of all time?).
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2014 14:44 |
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Cleretic posted:Interestingly, this is more or less the reason that the War Doctor exists. Every Doctor has their fans, and casting any of them as the one that took part in the Time War would have been a betrayal of sorts. That war was a horrible experience that demanded that the Doctor do things that he regretted more than anything else he's ever done, to the point where the Doctor himself refuses to 'own' what happened. Whoever did that was going to be cast as a black spot in the Doctor's history, which would have been more offensive to their fans. "Your Doctor was such a bad Doctor that he doesn't even deserve to have the name anymore." I figured it was just to run up the count on the Doctor's regenerations so Moffat could write the Doctor starting his new cycle when Matt Smith left. The argument that John Hurt was created so no other Doctor would have to destroy Gallifrey doesn't make sense, seeing as the result of Day of the Doctor was that he didn't destroy Gallifrey. Honestly, Day is a good episode when self-contained, but I really hate the retconning. The Doctor being able to save Gallifrey after nine years of saying it's impossible was incredibly cheap to me, and I didn't like the Time War looking like a Lucasfilm space battle instead of the reality-warping war between Great Old Ones and Outer Gods we were told about.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2014 04:46 |
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Bicyclops posted:Is this... are you taking a song from the Scrubs musical episode and making it into a reference only the Doctor Who, have-conversed-with-people-who-have-read-those-awful-novels community reference? Technically, I don't think anyone's watched all of Classic Who.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2014 02:49 |
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Yeah, the penis-dalek and pigmen story was pretty drat silly, though there were a couple things I liked. There was a funny moment where the daleks are gossiping and one of them looks over his shoulder to make sure no one's watching.Jerusalem posted:the story focuses on the rather uninspired romance subsplot between Tallulah the showgirl and Lazlo the failed pig-man hybrid. Given that he lived in the sewers, I always suspected this was a reference to the 80's Beauty and the Beast TV show. I doubt even Ron Perlman could have saved this one, though.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2014 06:52 |
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Metal Loaf posted:Bad Wolf is probably the only time it's been done with any kind of subltly. Unless you're paying especially close attention, you may not even notice it until the Doctor does in "Boom Town". Yeah, I didn't notice it until the Doctor points it out. Thrawn, I'm not sure about what you're asking, but I think Rose permanently was given the "Bad Wolf" abilities, but they stayed dormant most of the time. I would have preferred if she had just given the message to Donna- that was more than enough to clue in the Doctor without it being sprayed on every surface.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 21:06 |
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Jerusalem posted:I'll say this though, I can't wait for his inevitable return because they absolutely knocked it out of the park in terms of his look, character and performance. Hell, they even managed to get in the Daleks inevitably betraying him BEFORE he even appeared on screen, one of my favorite parts of that story. I've seen Journey's End and I've seen Genesis of the Daleks. It seemed like they added a large does of Emperor Palpatine to Davros in Journey's End.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 23:37 |
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She's more of a mystery than a character. Amy had the same problem at times, but Clara was far worse. My hope is that now that the mystery has been solved, we'll get some depth added to her. I also hope that the Doctor now appearing far older than her means we can dispense with any silly hints of romance.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2014 17:43 |
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Jerusalem posted:If I recall correctly, the 11th Doctor was already roughly 13-1400 years old by the time they got to that episode, there were significant jumps of time between seasons (and half seasons!). That's my assumption. Or, if not lying, he's lost track. I remember how old people are by subtracting their birth year from the current year- if I were constantly jumping around, I'd lose track very quickly. So, I figure he doesn't actually know how old he is and just says whatever sounds good at the moment.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2014 04:37 |
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Cleretic posted:The only thing that I'd be willing to give Rings of Akhaten is that it was great to see the Doctor whip out one of his big, fancy speeches and self-sacrifices and have it not work. Other than that, it's kind of a mediocre episode, I wasn't all that nto it. I did like Rings quite a bit. I think the only part I really disliked was when the Doctor held up a hundreds of pounds weighing door by waving his screwdriver. It was great to have John Hurt call the show out for how much the sonic was overused.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2014 22:58 |
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CobiWann posted:I catalog mine in order of the height of the Doctor starring in it. So the Seventh Doctor stories are about two shelves down from the others?
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 19:11 |
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DoctorWhat posted:oh my god, my face in this is as close as I've ever gotten to a particulat favored expression of Colin Baker: Wait, are you bright coat bravado (or something like that) on tumblr? Because I just saw this picture.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 05:49 |
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Burkion posted:OK, first, putting quotations around black implies that they were not black which they were and you cannot deny that they had some...troublesome implications. Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS wasn't my least favorite episode (that was probably Let's Kill Hitler), but it was definitely the most disappointing. I was pumped to see what the inside of the TARDIS looked like, and almost all we got was "run around corridors in the BBC offices." Also the guest characters were awful, the Doctor himself was a dick, and any plot development in his relationship with Clara was literally reset. quote:Nothing against Clara, but her story's already run its course, now she's just there to help us transition into Capaldi. Hopefully she's got good chemistry with him, but either way, I can't wait for the first companion for his Doctor (whatever his Doctor ends up being like). That's all true. I'm not too fond of Clara, but I'm glad she's sticking around for a while. I had trouble with the transition to 11 because they changed everything at once- doctor, companion, TARDIS... I suppose Moffat wanted to make it easier for new viewers to jump onboard, but for me it was too jarring, as opposed to the 9->10 regeneration where we had Rose to keep us steady. Oh, and the poll: Apparently people really hate Fear Her, but I don't get why. Love and Monsters was pretty good until the last ten minutes.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 01:50 |
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Interesting... I'm starting to think one of the places I depart from the consensus is that over-the-top imagery doesn't bother me as much as others. I wasn't put off by the messianic imagery in Last of the Time Lords, and the Doctor running with the torch was silly but didn't really upset me. And everything up to then was great- I love the parallel between a lost alien child and an abused human child. Still, "the power of love" wrapping everything up was pretty bad. That's the same place The Snowmen failed, where a family crying on Christmas somehow defeated The Great Intelligence.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 04:28 |
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FreezingInferno posted:158/159. I forgot The Android Invasion. Sheesh, I got up to fifteen and gave up. I seriously need to catch up on Classic Who (so far I've seen Genesis of the Daleks, Spearhead from Space, and that's it). Can anyone recommend some good Classic stories with The Master? Preferably ones that are on Netflix instant.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 01:40 |
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PriorMarcus posted:You know, contrary to my usual self I don't want to be a downer so I'll post this here, but I feel like the "hate watching Doctor Who" thread has kind of run its course. The one where that Occupation guy was forced to watch NuWho? Yeah, I skimmed through the first page, expecting to be angry, but I was more bewildered than anything. Like, are we watching the same show? I really don't care if people like different things than me, but I always try to understand where they're coming from, and in this case I was simply lost.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 04:37 |
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Cleretic posted:I forget where he said it, but I remember hearing a very respectable reason Moffat gave to that; Every Doctor is somebody's Doctor, including McGann. But the War Doctor isn't even the Doctor's Doctor, he's a man that committed unspeakable acts so against what the Doctor stands for that he himself refuses to acknowledge him as one. Except that the way Day of the Doctor worked out, the War Doctor didn't do that unspeakable thing. So if that's how you're going to play it, why not have Paul McGann be the one who refused to do the unspeakable and worked with the others to save Gallifrey?
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 05:54 |
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DoctorWhat posted:I wrote a thing: Well, those were a lot of words that probably would interest me if I knew what you were talking about. But, not knowing what Jubilee is or most of the other references (I gather at some point the Doctor was supposed to be an ancient god?), I couldn't really follow it.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2014 01:38 |
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"Midnight" is a fantastic episode. One thing I notice is that it's very similar to a Twilight Zone episode called "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street." It has very similar themes of a small, closed group of people turning on each other because they're afraid of a mysterious alien. "Midnight" is what's referred to as a bottle episode, one that has a small cast and few sets- normally this is done to save money, although I think I read this was still pretty expensive. At first, I thought this would make a good stage show, but in hindsight that would be a huge risk, because if either the Doctor or the monster slipped out-of-sync on even one line, it would instantly break the spell. I imagine they had to go through a lot of takes on this episode.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2014 02:24 |
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Davros1 posted:I remember an article in DWM where the talked to some NA authors, and one said that you cant make the Doctor the main character because you can't know what he's thinking. Which, to me, is bullshit, because if 26 seasons taught us anything, it's that you ALWAYS know what the Doctor is thinking, because he always says what he's thinking. That's what makes the character such a joy to watch. It could be argued that the companion is often the main character. The Doctor is usually the protagonist, the one who takes action, but often we see from the viewpoint of the companion. That's certainly the route Davies took, introducing us to Rose first and, through her, learning about the Doctor. And I gather "An Unearthly Child" started with Ian and Barbara exploring and stumbling upon the Doctor, and they serve as our surrogates. Basically, when you have an out-there concept or a confusing character, it's common for the main character to be a normal person who observes the unusual person. That's why Arthur Conan Doyle told his Holmes stories from Watson's POV- it's hard to put yourself in the mind of a supergenius, but it's possible to describe such a person from the outside. Timothy Zahn did the same thing with Grand Admiral Thrawn.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 00:42 |
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DoctorWhat posted:No, but THIS is: I don't know about everyone else, but for me I start associating people on forums with their avatars. So I'd been picturing you as John Hurt, and then I see this video and you're probably younger than I, and it's just a weird disconnect.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 02:37 |
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Burkion posted:What the hell you must think of me, I haven't the foggiest. Robot Strong Bad?
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 03:12 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 10:36 |
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The_Doctor posted:Who am I...? I'm Jean Valjean!
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 19:30 |