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Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


They received death threats over Captain America, and the mayor of New York told them he has their back. I think they're both equally bad rear end stories, and they both precede major cultural shifts.

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Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


VanSandman posted:

It was, from the start, pretty explicitly a cheesecake book. It should have been totally awful, but Connor managed to make it funny and fun, mainly because PG was almost always the smartest person in the room and never helpless. Yes, the sexual politics of comic books makes it problematic, but in a vacuum it was a harmless funnybook.
There should have been a companion series of sexy shirtless Nightwing or something. Although this might have run while Bruce was mostly dead.

Used to follow Palmiotti on twitter, and the dude loves him some naked women. If his wife is down with that, and enjoys drawing Power Girl, then more power to them both.

I wish those two would get a run on Supergirl. Their story in Wednesday Comics was cute as hell.

Remember Wednesday Comics?

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


zoux posted:

Hang on I thought Greg Land was on Mighty Avengers :raise:

That was him on the Shuma Gorath pages.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Jack Kirby had Thor repel Galactus when he attacked Ego. Someone post that one so we can get this thread back on track. The Mighty Thor #161, I believe.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


CharlestheHammer posted:

Well yeah but I could have sworn that before his run was another one of Mags' totally final death you guys things.

Nah, he just got stabbed, maybe crippled. Started collecting monthly X-Men with the arc before Morrison came aboard.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Nevvy Z posted:

Whoever had the idea to make Warren Ellis into a character should get some kind of award.



Of course it would be Fraction to do it.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


New Leaf posted:

I'm not super familiar with current Marvel stuff- is that Captain Marvel throwing Hulk from space? I'm going to need some context here.

Starbrand manifested his powers, killing hundreds of people. When the Avengers arrived, he accidentally blasts the Hulk into space. Captain Marvel flys up to retrieve him, and a bad rear end moment happens.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Batman also lost in Justice and OMAC Project.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Well, to be fair he WAS the only one who thought about shooting a speedster in the kneecap.

I forget exactly when but it was a Teen Titans thing with Bart. You figure if anyone was literally "faster than a speeding bullet" it'd be the speedster guy.

Bart was temporarily paralyzed by something or some such. It was like the second issue of Johns run. Was so glad to finally see him put on the Kid Flash costume. Coulda kept the goggles like the Young Justice show did though.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


qntm posted:

Is that the same issue with the "Without its principles, I say America is trash!" speech?

E: because if so then I think that's the stronger sequence.

AnonSpore is right, there's a distinction between "Cap won the fight, and that's why he's right" and "Cap is right, and that's why he wins the fight".

Nope. That story was about Cap stopping arsonists who considered themselves patriots. Frank Miller did the art. Marvel Presents or one of those two in one type books from the eighties.

EDIT: That's weird. He says almost the same thing in the story I mentioned.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


I think it's really understated how great Cap's dialogue is in Infinity. One of the best examples of Cap as a tactician.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Minarchist posted:

Ma Kent putting Supes in his place:



Love that page. Just makes you wanna hug the woman, and never tell her about Batman's parents.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Prometheus is "Batman can beat anyone with prep time" told as a joke. He's brought onto the JLA base as part of a press event. The punchline is him not being able to predict that Catwoman would use the event for her own reasons, and gets whipped in the dick. I'm sure there's people out there who took him at face value, and saw him as a super bad rear end that shouldn't have been emasculated by Catwoman.


EDIT: His second appearence he's made a joke again. And in JLA/Avengers he's used to show how good Cap is. Similarly Cap/Prometheus and the first Batman/Prometheus fight were both off panel.

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Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


I like when Punisher shoots the bad guys. I do not think he's a good role model for teenagers or the military. It's complicated.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


TwoPair posted:

With everybody posting Kirby stuff I'm surprised no one's posted the back-up in this week's S.H.I.E.L.D featuring Kirby's original 2 page pitch for Nick Fury Agent of SHIELD. Featuring inking from other beloved BSS artist, Jim Steranko!





(from SHIELD #9)

That's pretty drat hardcore as far as Kirby goes.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Didn't Diesel tease a while back he's trying to play another Marvel character?

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Black Bolt fighting with Maximus as children killed their parents and drove Maximus insane, I think. I also believe Black Bolt had his power since birth, as per one of the Inhumans back ups in the old issues of Thor.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


The mystery is actually solved by Pizza Dog and Lockjaw.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


That fight is a good example of why Marv Wolfman was always writing Wally West out of Teen Titans.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Norns posted:

I should start reading Dr Strange.

That's from New Avengers, but you should read Doctor Strange when it comes out.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


zoux posted:

Haha, also great but not what I was talking about. I remember Spidey letting Frank whale on him and he just completely no sells it to show that Frank is loving with dudes way above his paygrade.

Was it during Brand New Day? Two issue arc.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


KittyEmpress posted:

The new comics are actually really good, and if you can't see Vader telling an army of rebels that they're utterly screwed that's silly.

Aaron totally nails the characters voices, so I'm not going to get pissy about what Vader would or wouldn't say. I'm sure you could take stuff from the movies out of context and people would claim it's something he wouldn't say. "I want them alive!" Doesn't really mesh with his normal speech patterns for example.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


zoux posted:

I know the delays suck, but it's kinda worth it to have Ribic's art. I think this is a crossover that will age very well, once people forget about the delays. No one does a better Galactus than Ribic/Svorcina.

Also I know they're shoving Starlord in everywhere because of the movies but I don't really care. Guardians are cool.

It's exactly why he's in there, and it doesn't matter. It's great. The Groot toothpick has a little face and everything.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Geoff Johns just isn't sensitive to that kind of violence. Rucka asked him about it during 52, and Johns just said he grew up on Mortal Kombat and didn't see the problem. It doesn't bother me either. He puts too much heart into his writing to accuse him of making gore porn.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


I remember some story from Amazing Spider-Man somewhere in the 200's where Peter and Matt are fighting over some Kingpin poo poo, Peter pushes Matt out of a cab, and looks like a huge dick for abusing a blind man.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Reed being a hyper intelligent dick makes it all the sweeter when his hyper intelligent daughter makes him look like an idiot.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"



Just let the text linger a little longer, and it'd be perfect.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Lurdiak posted:

Well, I could be wrong, but I really can't think of any instance of such.



An issue or two after the one already posted he tells Sharon that he can see faster than normal people.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


The Invasion! issue of Animal Man was really good. It also sets up the end of the Psycho Pirate story in the book. "Just turn it off."

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Pretty par for the course with event tie ins. The aftermath issue was really good too, so I ever gave it much thought.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


TwoPair posted:

Yes, 1872 is hands down one of the best things to come out of Secret Wars

And this isn't faint praise. Secret Wars had some very good tie ins.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Everyone should watch the Seven Little Super Heroes episode of Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends. Not only does it have Shanna, but it has Namor unwittingly dive into a swimming pool of alcohol.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


It was remade with no continuity loss.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


The Question IRL posted:

Fun fact if you go back and look at the trade paper backs of Knights End (where Batman comes back and claims his title back of Jean Paul Valley) there is a bit where Az-Bat is talking about how he is a good guy because he beats up villains.
He mentions that he defeated "Jigsaw."

Which is a reference to the Chuck Dixon Punisher/Batman crossover. So that one was cannon, I guess.


Wrong Batman/Punisher crossover. Azbats and Jigsaw were in Lake of Fire by Denny O'Neil. "And the damned do not always scream and moan. Sometimes they suffer in silence."

Don't know why I still remember that after all these years.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


The Omnibus is totally worth it if you can find it. The setting gives it that extra bit of weirdness that most events lack.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Don't have the panels, but it was the Thunderbolts Annual by Acker and Blacker.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


What about the claw guy? Wasn't he called Klaw, or the crimson claw or some poo poo? Being a scrawny rear end kid, I used to hate muscle guys. I even lumped in Thor as "Conan with a hammer." Which would actually be really rad. Kids!

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"



Great post, but you kind of imply that Kirby and Lee's Thor didn't have some massive villains. Mangog, the Destroyer, Ego the Living Planet, Pluto, and Hercules debut in the 60's Thor books. The FF's Him and Galactus have two of their more memorable earlier appearances in Thor. There's even a precursor to the Celestials (the Orikal) in issue 139 where a ancient space god is found by Ulik the troll, and forced to make him his own version of Mjolnir.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Schneider Heim posted:

Man Uncanny Avengers was pretty fun, even if it turned out to be largely inconsequential due to time travel fuckery.

Yeah, Thor in Uncanny Avengers was a good compliment to Jason Aaron's Thor. You even get the origin of young Thor's axe.

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Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Bruce spends like a page original two talking steak in Broken City. He grills steak to relax

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