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Edge & Christian posted:That was from (the first) time they had the government MK-Ultra him into being crazy. I can't remember if that was a retcon or not.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:My dad read literally hundreds of Mack Bolan novels throughout the '80s and '90s (my childhood and teen years). They were pulpy "men's adventure" novels, and I think Bolan's family was also killed by Mafia-related crossfire just like Frank's, inspiring him to become a vigilante. I am a big fan of the Deathlands series, but I listen to the Graphic Audio versions. Mack Bolan and Stoney Men are some of the other series they advertise.
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The discussion of Fabian Nicieza as being very Fabian Nicieza in the Marvel thread made me think. Boil down writers into a couple sentences for me. Ex: Tom King is misery porn, Waid is dense continuity.
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Beerdeer posted:The discussion of Fabian Nicieza as being very Fabian Nicieza in the Marvel thread made me think. Boil down writers into a couple sentences for me. Ex: Tom King is misery porn, Waid is dense continuity. "Bendis is a whole lot of drawn out conversations and repeating himself." "Repeating himself?" "It's what Bendis does." "You're telling me Brian Michael Bendis draws out conversations and repeats himself?" "I am indeed telling you that Brian Michael Bendis writes a lot of long conversations and repeats himself." also he
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Dan Slott is a child playing with action figures and making up stories about them, and he gets very angry if anyone tries to tell him Skeletor is not in fact He-man's friend. Jonathan Hickman is a DM who spends 7 years writing the lore and backstory of his world but never gets around to running a single game.
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Jun 10, 2020 05:04
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Grant Morrison loves hyphanted psycho-babble.
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Jun 10, 2020 05:57
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Neil Gaiman does not write solely for sad goth girls.
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ecavalli posted:Neil Gaiman does not write solely for sad goth girls. Yes, there's lots of stuff for sad goth boys too.
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Warren Ellis doesn't care for continuity.
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I can't remember who but a while back I think someone (correctly) summed up Garth Ennis as loving hard men making hard choices and being lovely towards the weak populace who don't get how a tough guy being tough is actually good. Also he hates superheroes except Superman
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TwoPair posted:I can't remember who but a while back I think someone (correctly) summed up Garth Ennis as loving hard men making hard choices and being lovely towards the weak populace who don't get how a tough guy being tough is actually good. Also he hates superheroes except Superman He also LOVES a bromance. And I say that as a compliment toward Ennis.
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site posted:kurt busiek loves continuity AVENGERS FOREVER
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TwoPair posted:I can't remember who but a while back I think someone (correctly) summed up Garth Ennis as loving hard men making hard choices and being lovely towards the weak populace who don't get how a tough guy being tough is actually good. Also he hates superheroes except Superman I think this was me, back when some thread or another was having a discussion about The Boys. Specifically re: the fact that even though Billy Butcher's textually a villain and not a great guy, the fact that Ennis is enamoured with his aesthetic absolutely radiates off the page.
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Garth Ennis is about hard men making hard choices that do not make the world better.
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Geoff Johns liked things better before. Except for hands he hates hands
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Alan Moore deeply wishes the world didn't force him to be so cynical, and thinks the reader should pay for that.
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John Byrne channels the combined wisdom of the great creators of yesteryear. Amazingly enough, they all like the same things John Byrne does.
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BKV (pre-saga) knows a lot of trivial knowledge and wants to show it off to you
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What are some good storylines featuring Black Cat to look into? I'm thinking I should read some of Vulpes' work and I have no idea where to start with any of this "Spider-man" business.
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Nessus posted:What are some good storylines featuring Black Cat to look into? I'm thinking I should read some of Vulpes' work and I have no idea where to start with any of this "Spider-man" business. I don't know what to recommend, but I'm pretty sure this forum will NOT recommend "The Evil That Men Do", ie, DON'T read it. Two questions from me perusing old X-Men storylines from Grant Morrison's run. 1) Here is Cassandra Nova's origin. "Cassandra Nova Xavier is what the Shi'ar call "Mummudrai", the spirit that is the equal and opposite of a person. However, due to the amazing genetic potential of Professor Charles Xavier, his Mummudrai was able to create a physical form, effectively a twin. While gestating in her mother Sharon Xavier's, womb, Cassandra was recognized by Charles as an evil presence, and he preemptively tried to kill her with his nascent psychic abilities. Cassandra was barely able to defend herself and the shock of the roiling battle caused Sharon to have a miscarriage. Though the doctors pronounced her stillborn,[2] Cassandra in fact survived and spent the next decades as a growing mass of cells in a sewer wall, building a new body for herself and planning her revenge on her brother." Maybe I'm overthinking it, but...how did she get onto this sewer wall? Are they implying they disposed of her stillborn body into the sewers? 2) Nova's first act was to program several "Wild Sentinels" to go commit genocide in Genosha. I know Sentinels are supposed to be dangerous and writers can often flip around between making them so and just making them giant punching bags (The 90's X-Men cartoon was real bad about that), but how in the heck were these machines so strong they took out a nation of 16 million mutants, of which I'm sure plenty had offensive based powers? I mean, yes, at the time Magneto was badly injured and hence not really an option for a defense, but it always struck me as weird that these "Wild Sentinels" could do so much damage beyond the fact that was what Grant Morrison wanted to do for his plot.
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Nessus posted:What are some good storylines featuring Black Cat to look into? I'm thinking I should read some of Vulpes' work and I have no idea where to start with any of this "Spider-man" business. You don't need to read anything else before reading Vulpes' Black Cat, just know that she's a cat burglar and sometimes hero and she used to date Spider-Man.
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Yeah there are a lot of really fun continuity easter eggs (I was delighted by the Henry Hellrung mention in the latest issue) but it's also a super accessible tour of the Marvel universe if you're coming in fresh. Like Skwirl said, all you need to know is that she's a master thief who has a complicated romantic past with Spider-Man, and it might not hurt to know that she's had a variety of bad-luck related powers over the years. Maybe it would help to be aware that the Black Fox is another thief Spider-Man has come into conflict with whose gimmick is just being debonair and old, but that's about it. If you have a general awareness of people like Wolverine, Iron Man, etc.. (Wolverine's a tough piece of poo poo with claws! Iron Man is a rich pervert with flying armor!) you may be able to skim a few captions too. I think there's a lot of fun stuff to make it feel really textured and cunning for people saturated with Marvel trivia, but it's also extremely good, imo about "playing fair"-- assuming that you're coming to it with a bare minimum of knowledge and introducing each important piece of information as it arises. It really is one of the best comics Marvel is publishing right now and as much as I love it as a deep dive, I think it also has a ton to offer a newer fan.
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Sounds kind of like how Immortal Hulk had a bunch of references that I didn't really "get" until I got to the point of "wait, Xemnu? I remember - wait one god drat minute"
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Cornwind Evil posted:I don't know what to recommend, but I'm pretty sure this forum will NOT recommend "The Evil That Men Do", ie, DON'T read it. 1) Maybe medical standards were just a whole lot laxer back then? It might have been more appropriate for it to have been a very early miscarriage that passed largely unnoticed. 2) The wild Sentinels that attacked Genosha were absolutely colossal, if memory serves. So it was probably less hunting each mutant block to block and more just blasting the entire island to smithereens. Everybody there (except Kitty's dad) is going to be a target, so the Sentinels didn't have to identify each individual one.
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Yeah I imagine Sentinels have some practical constraint when they're on American soil, within nerve-gas distance of flatscans, etc. These did not apply in Genosha.
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Rochallor posted:1) Maybe medical standards were just a whole lot laxer back then? It might have been more appropriate for it to have been a very early miscarriage that passed largely unnoticed. Y'all made me drag out this heavy omnibus first thing in the morning. 1) It wasn't an early miscarriage, she was stillborn. As for the "chaotic cells clinging to a sewer", don't think about it? 2) The wild sentinels were replicating in a jungle. "Evolving". Master Mold was improving them to be more efficient than Trask's original design. The attack on Genosha is a sentinel as big as a skyscraper. The whole thing is like 2-3 pages, but you see one sentinel smashing into the tower Magneto lives in, then a bunch of explosions and lasers raining from the sky, then a panel of the big sentinel hovering and everything below on fire. Later, Hank mentions elevated radiation levels. So, basically they carpet bombed the island, probably sending in smaller units to cleanup. It was the equivalent of dropping a nuke. Nessus posted:Yeah I imagine Sentinels have some practical constraint when they're on American soil, within nerve-gas distance of flatscans, etc. I wouldn't expect these to have any constraints. Cassandra get Trask DNA to emulate him and override the control system. She probably just ordered them to go wild. It was a deliberate, targeted attack, not something the Sentinels did out of their programing. Uthor fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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The Wild Sentinels had machine guns and stuff bolted onto them. They were hunter/killers while the more average Sentinels were more about capturing and containing. Their bodies not being humanoid, while keeping their familiar faces, also helped sell how dangerous they were. I may have said it before, but I want to see the Krakoans bring back Ugly John.
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I try not to reply to every mention of Black Cat because it seems weird to pop up like Beetlejuice, but those are very kind and thoughtful words, How Wonderful!, I'm glad you're enjoying it.Nessus posted:What are some good storylines featuring Black Cat to look into? I'm thinking I should read some of Vulpes' work and I have no idea where to start with any of this "Spider-man" business. If you're looking for something modern and available, I liked Spider-Man: Black Cat by Jen Van Meter and Javier Pulido a lot. The Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man era of Peter/Felicia was a pretty interesting time (though her characterization has changed a lot since then), and while it didn't really involve Felicia outside of being a damsel in distress, issues 78-79 bang hard as hell in a real drag-out, knock down confrontation between Peter and Doc Ock. Open Marriage Night posted:I may have said it before, but I want to see the Krakoans bring back Ugly John. No joke, I have a rejected X-pitch featuring Ugly John as a supporting cast member.
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Keep reaching for an X book if that’s what you want. You’ve more than proven yourself as a great ancillary player with the Spider office. Ugly John, the poor bastard, deserves to see paradise.
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I'm reading Justice League Dark and I have a question. Since when can Animal Man call and control animals? 
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Selachian posted:I'm not sure what you're seeing here. Eh, maybe I am looking too much into then. What, if any, are considered the best Kang the Conqueror story/ies? bessantj fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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bessantj posted:I've been going through older comics on Marvel Unlimited and a lot of them have their letter pages and maybe someone who's more clued in can tell me. Was this done on puropse? I'm not sure what you're seeing here.
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Selachian posted:I'm not sure what you're seeing here. The grab-bag looks like a scrotum? Or someone was a fan of Warhammer?
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bessantj posted:Eh, maybe I am looking too much into then. Cross-Time Council of Kangs (~Avengers #290ff) and Avengers Forever are two excellent ones.
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prefect posted:Cross-Time Council of Kangs (~Avengers #290ff) and Avengers Forever are two excellent ones. Thanks you, I'll look out for them.
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Vincent posted:I'm reading Justice League Dark and I have a question. Since when can Animal Man call and control animals? I'm pretty certain he could do this in the Lemire run.
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I haven't read DC in a while but I think it was part of an expanded power set he got after the storyline where they introduced the Red?
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I'm trying to go through the Marvel Unlimited chronologically and I've just read Giant-Size X-Men #1. It was pretty good but Prof X comes across as a bit of a poo poo (Not for the first time I know). He insults a whole native American people and takes Storm away from a place where she seemed really needed. But I do have a question, in the Marvel universe what country is most different to its real life counterpart (fictional countries excluded obviously)?
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bessantj posted:I'm trying to go through the Marvel Unlimited chronologically and I've just read Giant-Size X-Men #1. It was pretty good but Prof X comes across as a bit of a poo poo (Not for the first time I know). He insults a whole native American people and takes Storm away from a place where she seemed really needed. But I do have a question, in the Marvel universe what country is most different to its real life counterpart (fictional countries excluded obviously)? Canada.
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