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Which comic was it where Young Justice's Secret (the character) asked the Spectre if he could make a rock so big, even he couldn't pick it up?
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Nov 4, 2020 05:26
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Probably issue 42, which is where they meet.
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Nov 4, 2020 13:22
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Currently rereading 52 floppies and I know each writer had their own story arc and I can kind of figure out who wrote what but can I get an official list of which writer worked on which storyline.
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Nov 5, 2020 16:53
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The only ones I know offhand are Rucka doing the Question (and Batwoman introduction) storyline and Morrison doing the space adventure story. If had to guess I think Johns did Black Adam because that's where the most arm ripping happens.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:13
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TwoPair posted:The only ones I know offhand are Rucka doing the Question (and Batwoman introduction) storyline and Morrison doing the space adventure story. From what I think is going on (and would love to see how far off I am) the breakdowns according to me are: Rucka - Question/Batwoman stuff Johns - Black Adam/Infinity Inc/Booster Gold stuff Morrison - Space stuff/Oolong Island Waid - No idea
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Nov 5, 2020 19:57
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TwoPair posted:If had to guess I think Johns did Black Adam because that's where the most arm ripping happens. lmao
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Nov 5, 2020 20:00
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Madkal posted:From what I think is going on (and would love to see how far off I am) the breakdowns according to me are: Everyone worked on everything, so it's not 100% this person worked on X story arc, but that's generally who had most input into each arc I believe. Waid handled a lot of the Ralph Dibny stuff. Edit: I think Waid was also most of Infinity Inc instead of Johns xK1 fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Nov 5, 2020 |
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Nov 5, 2020 20:11
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I remembered d00gz breaking this down page-by-page while it was coming out and fetched the threads from the archives https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1892227 - first thread where the method was established https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2265795 - middle thread after the first fell into archives https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2451917 - final result and page count a lot of it was based on conjecture, but it was based on Giffen's breakdowns from 52thecomic.com and different writers using different fonts and cues, so, educated conjecture e: if anyone doesn't have archives I could quote it here or pastebin it or something? didn't want to quote the whole thing because it's gigantic e2: here's summary tho: quote:Geoff Johns: Black Adam Cubone fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Nov 5, 2020 |
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Nov 5, 2020 20:23
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Cubone posted:I remembered d00gz breaking this down page-by-page while it was coming out and fetched the threads from the archives I don't have archives but don't feel compelled to quote the whole thing. That quote up that there helped. I forgot about the Ralph Dibney stuff for some reason, even though him clutching his wicker wife was freaking heart breaking.
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Nov 5, 2020 21:45
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feel like Batman fighting ten-eyed men in 'the empty quarter' to exorcise the paranoia from his personality is also Grant Morrison all over
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Nov 5, 2020 22:02
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Karma Tornado posted:feel like Batman fighting ten-eyed men in 'the empty quarter' to exorcise the paranoia from his personality is also Grant Morrison all over I'm nearly 30 issues into my reread (haven't read it since I got the floppies week after week) and there are a ton of little side stories here and there. Stuff like mentioned above, the stuff with the JSA or the new Justice League that doesn't last more than 5 pages.
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Nov 5, 2020 22:53
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Madkal posted:I don't have archives but don't feel compelled to quote the whole thing. That quote up that there helped. I forgot about the Ralph Dibney stuff for some reason, even though him clutching his wicker wife was freaking heart breaking. https://pastebin.com/uhQPuTKn 
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Nov 6, 2020 00:21
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lifg posted:I really like them. It’s like Ultimate Spider-Man, it has all the big stories in one consistent plot. I picked up all seven trades and dug them, although now I'm bummed the series was cancelled. I'd like to start reading 2000 AD Dredd but have precisely no idea where to start aside from I've already read a few of the big stories, like Judge Death and the Judge Child stuff.
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Nov 7, 2020 05:13
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If you want to just start at the beginning they have a chronological collection, The Complete Case Files. It works out pretty well until the Necropolis arc where for some reason they don't include the comics where Dredd is traveling the Cursed Earth.
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Nov 7, 2020 13:24
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muscles like this! posted:If you want to just start at the beginning they have a chronological collection, The Complete Case Files. It works out pretty well until the Necropolis arc where for some reason they don't include the comics where Dredd is traveling the Cursed Earth. Isn't that the one with a bunch of fast food mascot parodies? I think there were legal concerns.
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Nov 7, 2020 18:08
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Skwirl posted:Isn't that the one with a bunch of fast food mascot parodies? I think there were legal concerns. No, that's the original trip across the Cursed Earth early on in the comic. The Complete Case Files for that time is upfront about the missing chapters and has summaries for them. The Necropolis tie in involves Dredd traveling around as "Dead Man" which is technically not a Judge Dredd comic but it stars Dredd and is important to what happens so it is annoying to not have it.
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Nov 7, 2020 18:24
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Just finished S1 of Stargirl. I don't know enough about DC characters but has Icicle ever been an A-list villain?
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Nov 7, 2020 20:19
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bessantj posted:Just finished S1 of Stargirl. I don't know enough about DC characters but has Icicle ever been an A-list villain? IIRC, comics Icicle has mostly been a team guy, as part of various incarnations of the Injustice Society and Injustice Unlimited. I don't think he's appeared much on his own outside of the Golden Age, when he was part of Green Lantern's rogues gallery.
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Nov 7, 2020 20:36
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GA Icicle has been dead in comics since like 1990.
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Nov 7, 2020 20:37
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Selachian posted:IIRC, comics Icicle has mostly been a team guy, as part of various incarnations of the Injustice Society and Injustice Unlimited. I don't think he's appeared much on his own outside of the Golden Age, when he was part of Green Lantern's rogues gallery. Thanks, has there been a low level villain that has been rehabilitated into a major threat by a writer and I don't mean some mook getting his hands on the fully upgraded infinity gauntlet or anything like that.
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Nov 7, 2020 21:06
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bessantj posted:Thanks, has there been a low level villain that has been rehabilitated into a major threat by a writer and I don't mean some mook getting his hands on the fully upgraded infinity gauntlet or anything like that.
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Nov 7, 2020 21:07
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Rhyno posted:GA Icicle has been dead in comics since like 1990. His kid, who was somehow born with the powers of his dad's gun, was in Johns' JSA a fair amount, though Karma Tornado fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Nov 7, 2020 |
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Nov 7, 2020 21:12
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Karma Tornado posted:His kid, who was somehow born with the power's of his dad's gun, was in Johns' JSA a fair amount, though This is true. The TV version is the original with the newer ones look.
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Nov 7, 2020 21:15
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bessantj posted:Thanks, has there been a low level villain that has been rehabilitated into a major threat by a writer and I don't mean some mook getting his hands on the fully upgraded infinity gauntlet or anything like that. Deathstroke used to job to the Teen Titans before getting enough of a push to take down the entire Justice League. But since the '80s, he's been written with alternating face and heel turns, and I'd call him one of DC's biggest heat-generating draws today. Catman was a pathetic, washed-up joke before Gail Simone turned him into a formidable, respected badass antihero in Villains United. Over at Marvel, Kingpin was a Spider-Man jobber villain before Frank Miller pushed him into a terrifying and powerful threat to Daredevil, and then Soule gave him a push to become the mayor of New York City -- a real case of art imitating life. Over a decade ago, Bendis turned The Hood (a Brian K. Vaughan creation from a MAX miniseries who might have been forgotten otherwise) into a major threat who united and led a poo poo-ton of villains. Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Nov 7, 2020 |
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Nov 7, 2020 21:22
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FilthyImp posted:Doctor Light became a full out sadist rapist despite being a joke villain fighting teens for decades.  Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Deathstroke used to job to the Teen Titans before getting enough of a push to take down the entire Justice League. But since the '80s, he's been written with alternating face and heel turns, and I'd call him one of DC's biggest heat-generating draws today. I've always thought the Kingpin was a pretty big deal but thinking back to the early issues of Marvel comics I've read he wasn't that big of a threat. I'm looking forward to see him evolve.
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Nov 7, 2020 21:23
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Jason Aaron turned the Orb from a weird joke character to a threat that got a whole event around him.
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Nov 7, 2020 21:31
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muscles like this! posted:Jason Aaron turned the Orb from a weird joke character to a threat that got a whole event around him. Yeah but that all happened real fast. He was a huge joke throughout his GR run
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Nov 7, 2020 21:33
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Batman kinda? Like, he went from being the world's greatest detective to the point where practically every story where he turns heel, be it the main DCU or an Elseworld, it's treated like a end of the world scenario.
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Nov 7, 2020 21:38
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Purple Man's Threat Level from Daredevil to Emperor doom to Alias and beyond is a pretty good example. It's usually a relatively forgettable character being brought out of obscurity and revamped, you could make a similar argument for Mister Freeze, Deadshot, really about half of the main characters from Suicide and/or Thunderbolts.
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Nov 7, 2020 22:18
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Edge & Christian posted:Purple Man's Threat Level from Daredevil to Emperor doom to Alias and beyond is a pretty good example. Speaking of Thunderbolts, has Songbird been in anything since Ewing's various Avengers books?
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Nov 7, 2020 22:26
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Edge & Christian posted:Purple Man's Threat Level from Daredevil to Emperor doom to Alias and beyond is a pretty good example. It is definitely kind of weird to go back and read Animal Man and one of the people wandering around forgotten in Limbo is Mister Freeze.
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Nov 7, 2020 22:31
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Skwirl posted:Speaking of Thunderbolts, has Songbird been in anything since Ewing's various Avengers books? She was in the Thunderbolts series before Secret Empire. Don't know who wrote that offhand though.
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Nov 7, 2020 23:03
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muscles like this! posted:It is definitely kind of weird to go back and read Animal Man and one of the people wandering around forgotten in Limbo is Mister Freeze. I guess I've always been aware of Mr. Freeze, because he got a Super Powers action figure in 1986 and a write-up in DC Who's Who the same year, and that was the second year I started buying and collecting comics from newsstand spinner racks and local comic shops. I never realized he had been an abandoned, forgotten character. Interestingly enough, at the time of Who's Who (which started in 1985), both Animal Man and Deadshot were unpopular enough to only receive half-page entries rather than full pages like most characters. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Swamp Thing were the only solo characters to receive two-page profiles in Who's Who, although several teams got two-page profiles as well.
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Nov 7, 2020 23:38
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Swamp Thing Well, that was still during Alan Moore’s run.
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Nov 8, 2020 00:13
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Eclipso was a minor DCU villain until they retconned him into a god in the 1992 Darkness Within crossover.
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Nov 8, 2020 00:41
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Eclipso was a minor DCU villain until they retconned him into a god in the 1992 Darkness Within crossover. Oooh, that's a good one. Also Hank Hall was a crummy hero and then DC accidentally leaked that Captain Atom was Monarch so they pulled a switcheroo and used Hall instead. He was later massively upgraded into Extant for Zero Hour.
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Nov 8, 2020 00:50
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bessantj posted:
My absolute favourite example of this is from What If v1 #30 where Kingpin lures Spider-Man to Coney Island, where he has converted a ferris wheel seat into a flying attack bathtub. Also he has a laser cane.   
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Nov 8, 2020 01:23
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Wasn't it the Batman TAS that brought Mr. Freeze out of obscurity?
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Nov 8, 2020 02:26
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Madkal posted:Wasn't it the Batman TAS that brought Mr. Freeze out of obscurity? Yeah. The show pretty much completely reinvented his character that the comics then took that characterization going forward.
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Nov 8, 2020 02:30
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Yeah, the tragic backstory and disaffected scientist who does crimes for a relatable reason thing were never part of his character until BTAS. He used to be just a goofy bald guy with a freeze ray.
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Nov 8, 2020 02:41
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