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Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Rhyno posted:

He delivered her.

He's also her godfather isn't he?

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Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Phylodox posted:

Would this age be defined by its own self-awareness? I feel like comics nowadays recognize the silliness in their own premise and, rather than fighting so hard against it like back in the "Dark Ages" of the 90s, they embrace it. I'm also seeing a lot of slice-of-life, naturalistic kind of comics, like Hawkeye and Superior Foes of Spider-Man where there's as much just hangin' out and examining the personal lives of these larger-than-life characters as there is action.

I think also the loss (at least on Marvel's part) of the "house style" and the fact that indie comics are getting more and more exposure will be part of the definition of the current age. Maybe also how readers are starting to follow artist and writers instead of characters?

Also, the fact that the super-hero movies and TV shows are having such an impact might skew the definition of the age towards not only comic fans but to the public at large.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



I'm more surprised that no one gave him poo poo for introducing a literal yellow peril villain in his captain america run.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Madkal posted:

Has Superman ever had any formal training as a fighter, or has he always been a "hit them very hard" kind of guy?

Has he ever displayed any other technique besides "punch, fly fast and punch and/or grapple" in the comics? I don't think I've seen superman kick somebody now that I think about it.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



redbackground posted:

Other worlds got them too:



Earth 54 is the disco earth :haw:

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



McSpanky posted:

I liked it in the Crisis on Two Earths animated movie when Earth Prime wasn't anything special, and in fact wasn't even alive anymore because they did something cataclysmic that threw their planet clear out of its orbit. Maybe Earth-1's the same, it's just some random schlub universe where Popeye eats kale instead of spinach or Earth is the fourth planet from the sun but otherwise nothing's changed.
That would be a huge loving change tho.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



muscles like this? posted:

Inspired by the page posted in the Chat thread, I've only read modern comics with the Spectre which have focused on his being the instrument of God's wrath. What was his character like in older comics? Was he actually running around doing "superhero" stuff?

In the Golden Age "superhero stuff" was mainly either killing or maiming gangsters so yeah.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Didn't the old american tv and radio shows of the 59's and 60's also had a voice-over guy going "the so and so show will be back after this messages"? I thought the ones in the comics were kinda like a continuation of that.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Endless Mike posted:

Uh, that wasn't in THE BIBLE, canon of all canon, so no, I don't think so.

The Bible's fanfiction, the stone tablets were the canon.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Jack Gladney posted:

Does anyone know where this series of illustrations by noted pornographer Milo Manara was originally published? It's not work safe, as it's full of nudity and gory killing. Online it usually has a title like "the history of humanity."

:nws: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/oy50p :nws:

It's from a book called Bolero.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



"Time runs out" is exclusive to Avengers/Hickman, right? (I still can't see the "axis" logo and not read "sixis")

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Also, having a villain who looks like you and is also hella fast is kind of a Flash tradition; Jay Garrick (the original, golden age Flash ) has a guy called "The Rival" and Impulse (Barry Allen's grandson from the future) has "Inertia", another member of the Thawne family.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Endless Mike posted:

Is there a reason we're spoiler tagging character names that have been around for decades?

Because the Skwirl, who asked about the Reverse Flash/Zoom, is watching The Flash and there is a character there that might be one of those villains in a future episode and I'm not gonna spoiler that in case he doesn't know.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



A pyrrhic victory still has the word "victory" in it :colbert:

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



According to this guy, The FF comic until 88 was the greatest american novel.
http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



I thought Lemire left Green Arrow after his first run (the one with the different weapon clubs/totems), when did he go back to the book?

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



bobkatt013 posted:

Yeah but his run is still great. Do not forget the Future End issue.

Yeah, that story was very good, but I was asking if he went back to the book because I thought you meant that Lemire was writing GA again.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Gaz-L posted:

Palmiotti and Gray managed like a hundred issues of Jonah Hex and I think about 7 people read it.

I liked how they "rewrote" the canonical ending to give Hex a happy one.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Aphrodite posted:

Keep an eye on this super powerful mutant I brainwashed against his will.
Chuck seems to be 0 for 2 on the mutants with power over reality department.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Gavok posted:

If it gives us more Venom/Mega Man team-ups, sure!

Ok, I'll bite.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Was Taters posted:

Simonson's pretty good, btw.

What Louise Simonson would you recommend? I don't think I've read anything by her.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



bobkatt013 posted:

Power Pack, X-factor, and I think her Superman stuff was not to bad.


Wheat Loaf posted:

X-Factor and New Mutants.


Random Stranger posted:

Seriously, Power Pack 1-30ish is a really terrific all-ages book and probably the best work that Simonson has done.

Thanks!

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Wheat Loaf posted:

I should say, though, I'm not sure how easy it would be jumping right into Simonson's run on New Mutants without reading at least some of Claremont's stint (the first 54 issues). I'm pretty sure she'd been editing the comic before she took over the writing, so she really picks up where Claremont leaves off (and in the middle of a crossover) rather than making a clean break.

I figured, but I'm already reading New Mutants so it's all good.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Auralsaurus Flex posted:

I have an opportunity to combine my interest in comics with an assignment for my Spanish class since we're allowed some freedom for the topic of a paper we have to write. I'm looking for some (preferably Spanish-language) comics on the subject of Hispanic culture and history, but I'm not very familiar with the Latin American comics industry, so which books should I look into?

I've got Redrawing the Nation already and plan on reading Gilbert Hernandez's Palomar part of Love & Rockets. I'm also aware of the Mafalda comic strip and looked at some collections for it on Amazon, but have no clue where to really start there. Is anyone familiar with that and could they help me get oriented? Should I ask about that in the comic strip thread? What else should I be reading? Are Jaime's Locas stories also worth reading (as part of preparing for this assignment, not in general; I already know the answer to that question)? I'm not strictly confined to Latin America, so any Spanish comics or books from other parts of the world are also welcome recommendations. Bonus points for books that touch upon the political and historical themes of the twentieth century that concern Spanish-speaking countries.

I should also mention that titles available with digital editions or from Amazon with prime shipping would be preferred in order to make the process of hunting down and acquiring these comics easier.
Mafalda was a serialized comic strip, but it doesn't really have any sort of story arc where you'd be lost, it's mainly about this little girl who seems eerily attuned to the political and socio-economic landscape. It's aso very, very funny. You could also search for other books by the same author, Quino. He did a lot of editorial cartoons dealing with many of the same issues (but in a more direct and sometimes more harsh manner than in Mafalda.) He's truly one of the best latin-american cartoonist.

By itself, a lot of South-American cartoons, unless they are decidedly for little kids, are political mainly because the artist/cartoonist generally stand on the left of the political spectrum, add to that the mass of right-leaning coups during the 50's - 80's, the big chasm between classes and the disparity of wages you can see why.

By how (at least here in Chile) cartoons and strips ran in specialized or humor magazines, not in individual comics and how most (if not all) of 'em don't have digital archives (I mean, most of 'em stopped circulating during the 70's). I believe it would be very hard to try and buy them online or even find 'em. If you want I could try and look around some museums here and/or put you in contact with some people who might know more about it.

Locas deals with the LA latino/chicano experience while the Palomar stories are more about the little towns of magical realism tales and central american hamlets.

The more preeminent spanish strip is, I believe, Condorito (this could totally be my national pride talking), which can be found translated into english, but try to find the older ones, done by Pepo (the original author) from a few years before his death. The new ones are poo poo.

Most of the (newer and more interesting) comics in latin america are done by independent publishing houses.

Recommended comics
- El Eternauta
- Mampato
- Mafalda
- Condorito
- Anarko
- Cazador
- Barrabases
- Books by Maliki Cuatro Ojos (Maliki Four Eyes, some of her autobiographical comics have been published and translated in english)
- Mortadelo y Filemon

Honestly, for more current stuff, look for south american writers and artist working for DC, Marvel, Image or Dark Horse and see what they made in their native countries. Look for things by a pre-100 bullets Eduardo Rizzo or Fabio Moon and Gabriel Bá, Nelson Daniel also did some original work before work as a colorist.

You said you were looking for stuff focusing on the political side, and there are loving tons, but I was never interested in that stuff so I don't know about the more overt works by other artists. Specially non-chilean ones.

And books by Jodorowsky (Metabarons, Incal, etc) kinda, sorta count, but not really, since he's latin-american, but I believe his work is hella european. Same with Blacksad (both authors are Spanish, but the book is published in France).

Vincent fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Mar 20, 2015

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Uthor posted:

I was going to say this, but realized they're Brazilian and their work is in Portuguese. Probably not ideal for a Spanish class...
:doh: You're right. I was going by Latin American themes and forgot that little "detail".

Still, read Daytripper, yo.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



prefect posted:

Yeah, but Grant Morrison also decided that anything he wrote in his comics would turn into reality, so both sides. :D

Morrison's to blame for Trump, gotcha.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Uthor posted:

I'm reading Death of Captain Marvel and who the gently caress is this guy?



Also, what is the canonical way to use hats in outer space? Outside the fishbowl like the gentleman here or inside the helmet like ol' Dum Dum? Dealers choice???

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Squizzle posted:

I won't disagree that Englehart liked Mantis way, way too much—but the way he shoved her into every book he wrote after creating her isn't quite the radical oddity that people sometimes imply. Dude could not let go of a dangling plot point, or a character for whom he wanted to finish an arc. It's Basic Englehart Practice to keep pulling her from book to book until he finished his Celestial Madonna garbage, or brought the character to some comparable closure.

Doing that even as he moved from Marvel to DC to his indie work, well, Ok, that's a new level of Englehart.

Anyone has a link or something to an article about this? I tried googling Englehart Mantis but I just got pieces about how he didn't like the character in Guardians Vol. II

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



I'm reading the new Avengers issues by Aaron and I have a few questions...'cause I haven't read a marvel comic in a long while.
1) What is up with Thor's arm and golden Mjolnir? In The Mighty Thor he still had the axe and the black armor arm.

2) So, reading this thread, cap is a construct and the real steve is a nazi. That about sums it up? Is falcon still Captain America? Was there a reaction from (in-comic world) regular people about having Captain America be a nazi and then taking the job from the other one?

3)Why is She-Hulk all "Hulk Smash" now instead of how she's always been?

4) How the hell do people still talk to Captain Marvel after the whole Civil Warr II bullshit and how is she in charge of Alpha Flight (which I asume its not the canadian super team but a new SHIELD?

5) What happened to SHIELD?

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Thanks to the both of you!

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Also, Nick Spencer's personal politics are, if not outright extreme right, very extreme right adjacent.

So: gently caress him.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



site posted:

remembered one shot from a quarter century ago: a story with blade, howard the duck and a vampire cow

i swear it was real, but was it???

With Steve Gerber everything is posible.



(Hellcow first appeared in Giant Size Man-Thin #5)

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Wheat Loaf posted:

Wasn't that actually Proty? :v:

Proty is the sacrifice to bring him back to life.
The lightning needed to transfer the life energy back to LL (...another LL that has to do with Superman, goddammit) hits Saturn Girl, but as she dies, we see that it was actually Proty who, after taking her place, used a special metal that's better at attracting lightning.
Here's a summary of the whole thing. https://sacomics.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-of-lightning-lad.html

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Squizzle posted:

In the issue, it's intercut with a Batman adventure, and there's a bit before and after the scene in question, but here's the scene on it's own, just to see if it rings any bells for you:



Cool scene.
I didn't know the characters from Gotham Central appeared before. Do they come up in Rucka's Detective?

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



X-O posted:

Also don't read Prime. Just don't.

And in case one of you is thinking "why, is it that bad?" It's because the writer/creator is a pedophile.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Rhyno posted:

Maybe you could get a copy of Prime and a sharpie and have someone black out the text so you can just look at Breyfogle's art since he just passed away.
Better yet, get Breyfogle's other work so you don't support the work of a pedophile.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Was Vampirella ever a good comic? Like, is there a reason the character hasn't been forgotten since the 70's or 60's? Was it always fan wank stuff or was it good horror comics like Tomb of Dracula?

Also, I remember that either Boom or Image rebooted the character and Kate Leth was writing her with an actual costume and not silly string attached to her body. Did it last?

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Ghostlight posted:

more like bad-dad

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Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



I like NerdSync. The videos are nicely produced and Scott sometimes veers into interesting topics and recommends interesting books.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?NerdSyncProductions

Tho it is one of those shows that tries to be liked by everyone, so don't expect any deep journalism investigations or anything like that.

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