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Jan 14, 2006


Wonder Man and Vision survived a giant fantasy space nuke, nega-bomb or something.

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Jan 14, 2006


Edna Mode?

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Jan 14, 2006


Rhyno posted:

You don't know her back story any more than the rest of us. She obviously was at a critical phase which is why she was ready to end her own life. ZOMG SHE'S GOTH SHE WANTS TO DIE is an idiotic observation to make.

You're an idiot. The artistic shorthand of goth = suicide was a complaint being made.

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Jan 14, 2006


Rhyno posted:

It's a loving idiotic complaint to be made and he also complained about how she was just one traffic jam away from suicide so you can get stuffed.

Less idiodic than the guy who said it wouldn't have made as much impact for him if she dressed in a less "alternative" style. Because people who are depressed don't matter if they aren't qt goth girls, right?

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Jan 14, 2006


This guy you idiot.


prefect posted:

I don't think he's saying "all kids who dress like this are depressed". I actually like that it's an "alternative" kid that Superman is helping -- if it had been a polished and popular kid, I would feel less sympathy.

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Jan 14, 2006


Rhyno posted:

What are you even arguing at this point?

That you have an inability to read posts, leading to you arguing with a guy who shared your views and then again with me.

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Jan 14, 2006


Has there ever been a 616 Miles Morales at all? Even as just a sly mention/nod to the Ultimate universe?

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Jan 14, 2006


Rhyno posted:

Yes, the last page of Spider-Men.

Thanks, but could you elaborate at all?

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Jan 14, 2006


Thanks.

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Jan 14, 2006



Welp. Now I'm confused.

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Jan 14, 2006


I guess Thor is out if the question, then?

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Jan 14, 2006


What even is a cryptofascist?

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Jan 14, 2006


Aphrodite posted:

Simple who search for mythological and legendary fascists.



Oh, that sounds like most superhero comics. That's like the basic description of like Darkseid and other supervillains.

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Jan 14, 2006


Skwirl posted:

William F Buckley.

Tim Buckley?

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Jan 14, 2006


Skwirl posted:

Books without pictures use the greatest artist ever: Your imagination.

Sorry, my imagination is crap.

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Jan 14, 2006


Madkal posted:

I would read it if Darkseid was the one who created noted conservative magazine The National Review and writer/political commentator Clark Kent wrote the word "cryptofascist.

Who's gonna illustrate it?

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Jan 14, 2006


Doctor Spaceman posted:

Someone who likes or is fascist but doesn't want to admit it. The same for other "crypto-X" things.

Darkseid isn't because he's open about who he is and isn't fascist except under a pointlessly broad definition.

Is the "they don't want to admit it" thing important? I figured it was just hiding a fascist message or theme.

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Jan 14, 2006


Endless Mike posted:

No quarter will be asked, and none given.

Isn't that Furman?

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Jan 14, 2006


WickedHate posted:

What are you playing at, trying to start more quotations? Time I made a stand. These repeated lines are giving me the worst case of indigestion I've ever had, a short, sharp lesson in a whole world of pain. Starting now, it's over, finished!

I'm pretty sure this is surplus to requirements.

It was not my intent!! That was a serious question.

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Jan 14, 2006


WickedHate posted:

It never ends. :sigh:

Time to reap the whirlwind!

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Jan 14, 2006


El Gallinero Gros posted:

I think part of the issue with Superman is that, with video games part of the challenge is that you have vulnerabilities. So developers have to come up with reasons for Supes to be vulnerable and so far we've not had any developers who care enough about Supes or think to enlist people who do, so they can come up with something.

I can't remember the title at the moment, but there was a Superman game on the DS where the player is invulnerable and instead it's the city itself that has a lifebar. I though that was a pretty good way to handle things.

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Jan 14, 2006



Cheers!

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Jan 14, 2006


NORMAL-SIZE
MAN-THING!

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Jan 14, 2006


I think it's dumb they used 616 instead of literally any other number because it means that whoever made the decision to put that in there means they know it's ~important~ and recognizable, but doesn't know why. Or doesn't care-- they just want people to nerd out because "I recognize a thing!" with no consideration to the meaning behind it.

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Jan 14, 2006


It's not a big deal, it just dilutes something that was cool and unique by specifically not understanding or not caring why it was significant in the first place. It's about making it confusing for anyone. Like-- imagine they used a different number, whatever they chose, now instead that grows the IP (or lore, or whatever term you like the best) and can be something new to be called back on. With that there's something unique that everyone of all levels of knowledge can appreciate. Instead it's just "thing that exists."

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Jan 14, 2006


Dawgstar posted:

I've never been clear on how much influence editors have over manga creators, but it does seem like 'a lot.' I've heard stories part of the reason Bleach was the way it was because his editor kept telling Kubo to make it like either DBZ or One Piece instead of doing its own thing. Even Jujutsu Kaisen seems to have devolved into the ever escalating power level thing, which is a shame.

I think from things like Bakuman, Nozaki-kun and Aoi Honoo (among lots of other works that have manga development as either a focus or part of the plot) there's a range of editor types, but it definitely seems like often the editor is either a full on collaborator or a director and generally the buck stops with them.

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