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Hey folks. Welcome to the brand new general DC Comics thread! The Super Friends Over two years past it's inception, our 35(?) currently running monthly comics still say "The New 52" on them, so I'd better explain what that means. Back in 2011, Barry Allen (The Flash) ran really fast and mixed up continuity. Read about it in Flashpoint, or watch about it in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox. So, Wonder Woman is Zeus' daughter and wasn't formed from clay! Wuh? Superman never wore red shorts! Huh? The original Green Lantern isn't old, but he is gay! It's true! Batman is confusingly mostly the same! Okay! It's all crazy and lots of folks just can't take it! That's okay. These DC lunkheads get us all riled up with their poor decisions and practices all the time! We even have a thread dedicated to it: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3550798 But this thing is here to stay for the foreseeable future, so lets settle in and read/post about some superhero comics in a constructive thread. If you just can't do that, try that other one. It's fun. Here are your currently published DC comics in handy categories. (accounting very near additions and cancellations) JUSTICE LEAGUE Justice League, Justice League United, Justice League 3000, Earth 2, Secret Origins, Worlds' Finest, Aquaman, Aquaman and The Others, The Flash, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman. The Justice League are the titular big ol' team featured in the big ol' 'Justice League' book by big ol' Geoff Johns. It's perpetually sparking off Johns' endless events, so if you generally want to know what's up with the DCU, this is the comic. 'Justice League United' is taking over from the soon to be defunct 'Justice League of America'. It's written by Jeff (Animal Man, Green Arrow, Sweet Tooth) Lemire and set in Canada and Outer Space. Very exciting! 'Justice League 3000' is probably not long for this earth, but is a pretty entertaining and unique comic. By the hailed JLI writing duo of Keith Giffen and JM DeMatteis, with art by Howard Porter, who you know from Grant Morrison's old JLA run, give it at least a curious cursory glance. 'Earth 2' takes place on an alternate world with totally different takes on DC concepts and characters. Head over there if you'd like things shaken up a bit. Look forward to the inevitable Crisis event when worlds meet. Other things of note: Aquaman has a brand new author in Jeff Parker, The Flash has his own thread right here (URL to come), Green Arrow got good at issue #17, Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chang are wrapping up their acclaimed Wonder Woman run soon. There are nasty rumors going around about who might succeed them. Cross your fingers. BATMAN Batman, Detective Comics, Batman Eternal, Batman and …, Batgirl, Batwing, Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Catwoman, Nightwing, Red Hood and The Outlaws, Harley Quinn. The Batman thread has all you need to know! SUPERMAN Action Comics, Superman, Superman Unchained, Superboy, Supergirl. The whole Super Family have their own thread here! (url to come) GREEN LANTERN Green Lantern, Green Lantern Corps, Green Lantern: New Guardians, Red Lanterns, Larfleeze, Sinestro. Here's the GL thread (URL to come) NB: 'Red Lanterns' is DC's most improved book by far. Read Charles Soule comics. DARK Justice League Dark, Constantine, TOS: The Phantom Stranger, TOS: Pandora, Swamp Thing, Animal Man. The side of the DCU involved with the occult and magic and spooky stuff. 'Swamp Thing' is a Soule book. 'Animal Man' has an issue to go and should by all rights be dropped from the list, but I can't do it. THE EDGE All-Star Western, Cancelled Books Keep on ridin' the edge, Hex. SLASH Batman/Superman, Superman/Wonder Woman* Do you put these under JUSTICE LEAGUE or what? *Soule book DCU EVENTS Forever Evil, Futures End. 'Forever Evil' is Geoff's current event book which will soon be done! 'Futures End' is an upcoming weekly, year long comic in the '52'/'Countdown' style, set five years in the post apocalyptic DC future. There are OMACs all over the damned place and only Frankenstein, Firestorm, Batman Beyond and others can save the day! Jeff Lemire, Brian Azzarello, Kieth Giffen and Dan Jurgens are doin' it. Of course, Detective Comics Comics are 200 years old so feel free to talk about their titles from any old continuity you wish. And finally, nobody cares how few DC comics you're reading. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 16:56
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Anyone following Forever Evil? I am reading Johns' mini and JL, and he is hellbent on inserting as much of the old DCU into the crossover as possible. He retconned Luthor back to Smallville (complete with the old Lena backstory), plus Bizarro (with an unnamed Legion of Doom), the Metal Men, Plastic Man, and probably some other stuff I've forgotten. (Wrestling nerd alert: Iron mentions "WCW is on in five." Oh, the implications...)
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Feb 26, 2014 17:27
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Dario the Wop posted:Anyone following Forever Evil? I am reading Johns' mini and JL, and he is hellbent on inserting as much of the old DCU into the crossover as possible. He retconned Luthor back to Smallville (complete with the old Lena backstory), plus Bizarro (with an unnamed Legion of Doom), the Metal Men, Plastic Man, and probably some other stuff I've forgotten. The problem with Johns is than he's getting more and more like an OCD kid with each new arc on the N52, he keeps adding this neat concepts and ideas than go nowhere on the long run or he retcons later. Is becoming really irritating now.
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Feb 26, 2014 17:31
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Doom Patrol and Plastic Man (yeah yeah. He was on that JLI TV screen), too. I am way not into Forever Evil*, but as long as those get to be neat books, cheers Geoff. Now get on with my Shazam! series. *Actually, the JL side issues have been fun. Mahnke and Reis instead of Finch sure helps. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 17:34
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:The problem with Johns is than he's getting more and more like an OCD kid with each new arc on the N52, he keeps adding this neat concepts and ideas than go nowhere on the long run or he retcons later. Another thing I noticed in Forever Evil is that it's pretty tough to enjoy unless you read old DCU. I mean, why would a newbie care about Doom Patrol (two '80s characters who were killed off as their intro to make way for the classic roster) or the Metal Men, when the story is ostensibly about the League/Syndicate/Anti-Monitor? The Plastic Man sequence doesn't even make sense unless you know the character's origin. I'm also annoyed that, as of Christmas, I've yet to see any sort of movement on the "League trapped inside the Firestorm matrix" idea. Did I miss a tie-in?
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Feb 26, 2014 17:44
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Dario the Wop posted:I've yet to see any sort of movement on the "League trapped inside the Firestorm matrix" idea. Did I miss a tie-in? That's in Matt Kindt's JLA. Why would the Plastic Man origin not be understandable? Gangster named Eel gets toxic waste tipped on him and goes gooey. It's not crazy brilliant, but you could start a Plastic Man book off that. Anti-Monitor? Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 17:48
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Teenage Fansub posted:That's in Matt Kindt's JLA. Plastic Man is a goofy character. You want to see how DC comics deals with a goofy character? Expect a high body count.
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Feb 26, 2014 18:06
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Teenage Fansub posted:That's in Matt Kindt's JLA. I didn't realized than that was supposed to be Plas until I read the piece on him run by BC, so it really can get confusing sometimes. So I readed the Lois one shot and Lucy is lesbian/bisexual now or am I reading way too much into things? Edit: And Jonah got his face fixed now, wonder where are they going with that. Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 18:07
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Teenage Fansub posted:It's not crazy brilliant, but you could start a Plastic Man book off that. quote:Anti-Monitor?
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Feb 26, 2014 18:28
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Dario the Wop posted:Anyone following Forever Evil? I am reading Johns' mini and JL, and he is hellbent on inserting as much of the old DCU into the crossover as possible. He retconned Luthor back to Smallville (complete with the old Lena backstory), plus Bizarro (with an unnamed Legion of Doom), the Metal Men, Plastic Man, and probably some other stuff I've forgotten. Geoff Johns thinks that the WCW still exists, because he has anterograde amnesia and thinks it's still the 1990s? That would explain much of DC's current output.
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Feb 27, 2014 05:57
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Edit: And Jonah got his face fixed now, wonder where are they going with that. Oh and regarding Jonah, I don't know where they're going with the face thing but thank gently caress they're back in the past. I'm kinda mad that his future girlfriend came with him though, was hoping Booster would have just went "Um no how about you don't risk further time fuckery" because I'm just so soured on that whole story arc that having any reminder of it clinging around is gonna be super-annoying. I am hoping that the return of a Booster Gold that knows what he's doing with time travel signals the start/return of DC doing... literally anything with Booster Gold!
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Feb 27, 2014 06:34
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I haven't read the new ASW yet, but I think it says in future solicits that he's going to be fighting himself, so I guess he ported back to before he ported out the first time and the clean face is to help distinguish between the Hexes. I hope it's all Back To The Future 2 type shenanigans and in the end scar Hex just shoots our Hex dead, misses meeting Booster and is never the wiser about a future world. e: Except for his double's weird abandoned in the past future girlfriend. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Feb 27, 2014 07:38
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Good news bad news! Good news: David Finch will only be drawing the new Wonder Woman. Rubble fans rejoice! Bad news: His wife will be writing it. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/02/27/so-who-is-the-woman-writing-david-finchs-wonder-woman/ Please note, the only other writing credit she has is for Zenescope's Tales of Oz. So DC just doesn't care about WW right?
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Feb 27, 2014 19:20
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RevKrule posted:Good news bad news! 
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Feb 27, 2014 19:25
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RevKrule posted:Good news bad news! I don't know what to think about this  (Aside than nepotism's running rampant on DC of course) In other news, I just made a Red Hood thread Come to tell me how much it sucks! 
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Feb 27, 2014 19:25
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What are some precedents for husband-wife creative teams? Did the Abnetts ever do something like this?
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Feb 27, 2014 19:25
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spacejung posted:What are some precedents for husband-wife creative teams? Did the Abnetts ever do something like this? The Allreds, and they are awesome.
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Feb 27, 2014 19:27
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spacejung posted:What are some precedents for husband-wife creative teams? Did the Abnetts ever do something like this? Palmiotti/Conner Mike Allred/Laura Allred Frank Miller/Lynn Varley Kathryn and Stuart Immonens
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Feb 27, 2014 19:29
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There is also the team that makes pornos together. Original Writer and Melinda Gebbie.
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Feb 27, 2014 19:31
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Have Azzarello and Thompson ever worked on anything together?
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Feb 27, 2014 19:33
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RevKrule posted:Good news bad news! 
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Feb 27, 2014 19:37
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Five year jump on every title this september And the return of the lenticular covers, welp
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Feb 27, 2014 20:02
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I hope DC releases an oversize hardcover of all the Allred varients
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Feb 27, 2014 20:03
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Five year jump on every title this september *They had thought about doing this from the beginning and didn't try and shove 4 Robins into Batman's history along with other continuity headaches *It actually stuck and wasn't a short crossover event that really means nothing in the long haul other than more gimmicks. Whatever dumb amount of time they decided on continuity for DC would have ended up working a lot better in the long run if they'd done a couple of years "In the middle" stories to kind of tell things and then flash forward another five years where things are more stable. They could have done a 52/OYL type comic overall/tie-ins that showed and explained what happened in the five years in the mean time. But nah, it's just a couple month crossover at best that shows what **might** happen in five years (That will almost certainly not be remotely true)
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Feb 27, 2014 20:07
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Flameingblack posted:Future's End would have been a really interesting thing if: Its just Johns version of Twilight of the Gods.
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Feb 27, 2014 20:08
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All this is doing is reminding me that DC can never do another 52 again. At least as long as Didio is in charge.
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Feb 27, 2014 20:26
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At the very least it could bring things away from origin stories and retellings.
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Feb 27, 2014 20:33
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Senor Candle posted:All this is doing is reminding me that DC can never do another 52 again. At least as long as Didio is in charge. They're trying their hardest for strucking gold like that again: Eternal, Future's End and now an as yet-untitled weekly series on october
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Feb 27, 2014 20:41
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Didio has been chasing that since he proclaimed that Countdown to Final Crisis was "52 done right"
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Feb 27, 2014 20:43
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New Bat thread up. Also we will never had a 52 again as long as there isn't the talent for it.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:14
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There is absolutely the required talent, but not the smarts to let them do it.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:18
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Senor Candle posted:There is absolutely the required talent, but not the smarts to let them do it.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:19
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Now that I think about it, the all-star team would be Lemire, Snyder, Pak, Parker,...Johns?
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Feb 27, 2014 21:21
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I would throw Manapul on it but I don't think a lot of people read Flash.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:23
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Soule does a lot of work for DC and Azzarello is still there for the time being. Morrison still seems to have projects in the works.Waterhaul posted:I would throw Manapul on it but I don't think a lot of people read Flash.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:25
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Right. Forgot about Soule. Didn't read Manapul's Flash run. From what I heard though, the art is amazing but the story is fairly meh-ish.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:28
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It was good. There was a lot of reluctance over the series due to the nu52 changes and nobody likes Barry but man it was a really fun colourful cape comic which seems so weird to see in nu52 DC.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:40
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Madkal posted:Right. Forgot about Soule. Didn't read Manapul's Flash run. From what I heard though, the art is amazing but the story is fairly meh-ish. Pretty much, it was a joy to read, but I don't think It's worth it to continue with their Detective Comics run.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:40
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All-Star Western is cancelled. DC is hell bent on trimming my pull list from them to nil.
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Feb 27, 2014 21:46
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AW MAN! I was sure Hex was somehow blessed from on high to avoid cancellation at all odds. e: Futures End's pool of talent, bar one is pretty damned solid. I'd have some hope, folks. It stars Frankenstein after all. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Feb 27, 2014 21:58
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