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lotus circle posted:So hey good news: they're not finger-less gloves. They're just hand-armor. That......makes even less sense. Also did anyone else think it was/is bullshit that his suit is supposed to be indestructible? Like so artists didn't have to draw battle damage, or show Clark's super manly chest hair.
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If they're knuckle guards, they need to be visually distinct to demonstrate that. They do have the look of mis-fitting sleeves ultimately, which... looks childish, really. Like ill-fitting jammies when viewed at the wrong angle.
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Feb 1, 2015 10:12
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Knuckle guards... For the man that can punch the moon while being covered in searing magma. Yes.
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Feb 1, 2015 10:15
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I know I'm always worried that Superman might hurt himself when he punches someone.
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Feb 1, 2015 10:16
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First Bass posted:
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Feb 1, 2015 10:44
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I'd rather see how Aaron Kuder draws the outfit personally. That guy makes the current suit look half decent, he should make this one look pretty good. I wish they'd drop the neck completely instead of just slightly toning it down. Honestly the best nu52 superman costume is the T-shirt and jeans, Ultraman's and Earth 2 Superman's come close.
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Feb 1, 2015 10:52
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If they're going to go all techno-alien with Supes they should just go all the way.First Bass posted:Romita's art is just bad in general, but he seems to have a problem with Supermen in particular.  Don't make me post the entirety of his Daredevil run at you.
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Feb 1, 2015 12:12
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I used to really like JRJR back when he did Spider-Man.
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Feb 1, 2015 13:41
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JRJR is one of the best noir artists working in comics today, but he's got some fairly glaring weak spots, and this would appear to be one of them. Another's drawing children.
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Feb 1, 2015 15:44
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:I'd rather see how Aaron Kuder draws the outfit personally. That guy makes the current suit look half decent, he should make this one look pretty good. I wish they'd drop the neck completely instead of just slightly toning it down. I like the cut of your jib.
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Feb 1, 2015 16:14
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FilthyImp posted:Knuckle guards... For the man that can punch the moon while being covered in searing magma. Ground in moon dust is a bitch to wash off your knuckles.
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Feb 1, 2015 16:51
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I think Superman could use some knee pads next. That would probably be great. I have to wonder who looks at the designs of Superman with dumb knuckle covers and says "yes.. This is right. Send the memo to everyone, this is official"
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Feb 1, 2015 23:02
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Chinaman7000 posted:I think Superman could use some knee pads next. That would probably be great. He could look at Batman's bat-kneepads and get jealous, adding S-shield kneepads to his own outfit.
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Feb 1, 2015 23:05
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I'm ready for them to revisit Superman Red and Superman Blue / Electric superman. Can't wait for those designs.
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Feb 2, 2015 05:55
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Lightning Lord posted:Don't make me post the entirety of his Daredevil run at you. Okay, I guess he's alright if he's drawing Spider-Man or Daredevil, but for the love of god keep him away from anything with a cape.
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Feb 2, 2015 07:41
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I don't understand how anyone could like JRJR's art. If it weren't for the fact that I'm down to only collecting Action and Superman at this point from DC (which is a new low record for me) then I'd be dropping that book as well.
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Feb 2, 2015 07:43
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I really like Romita Jr. I'll tend to enjoy most anyone with a real idiosyncratic style. I thought his arc on Remender's Captain America was gorgeous. There was a sharp drop in my interest in that book afterwards and a lot of it was probably down to him being replaced by some really indistinct artists (e: until Immonen on the new volume, I guess. I like him, but haven't tried the comic yet.) Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Feb 2, 2015 |
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Feb 2, 2015 09:28
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lotus circle posted:So hey good news: they're not finger-less gloves. They're just hand-armor. Did JRJR ever draw people who didn't look like made out of boxes? Because those are some ugly-looking people.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Did JRJR ever draw people who didn't look like made out of boxes? You are the very last person in this entire subforum who's allowed to be critical of anyone's art style considering the poo poo you consider to be good art.
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Feb 2, 2015 09:50
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I think John Romita, Jr. is one of the two artists (the other is Alan Davis) I can remember really jumping out at me when I started reading comics. It was on his third (?) run on Spider-Man with Howard Mackie; by no means a good arc but I thought the art held it up a lot. I really liked the way he drew the Venom symbiote when it was separated from Eddie Brock. At the same time, I see why people wouldn't like him. There's certainly been a few times his art has fallen flat for me, but I think when he's good, he's very good.
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Feb 2, 2015 11:24
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You also have to keep in mind the current trend in coloring is not one that plays to JRJR's strengths at all.
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Feb 2, 2015 14:12
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I can see why he was a big deal back in the day; his artwork looks better with sparser, non-digital colouring and he's perfectly fine at drawing characters like Spider-Man and Venom who mostly don't have human faces. But when you have him doing human interaction he loving sucks, I'm sorry. His run on Bendis' Avengers and like AvX, not those books were very good to begin with, but it is one of the shittiest high-profile art jobs I've seen in the modern era. It looks embarrassing.
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Feb 2, 2015 15:14
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It's weird how many wrong opinions are being posted by people who don't have anime titty avatars.
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Feb 2, 2015 16:18
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Maybe the artist watched some UFC and picked up on the fingerless four ounce gloves the fighters use.
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Feb 2, 2015 19:58
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I still like his art  Sometimes his faces are pretty funny but his poses are pretty great
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Feb 2, 2015 23:21
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Like Quietly he is a talented guy with a unique style that doesnt always work all the time but, when it does, nobody could replace it.
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Rhyno posted:You are the very last person in this entire subforum who's allowed to be critical of anyone's art style considering the poo poo you consider to be good art. No I think we should hear DT out this time, he is an expert on box people art Chinaman7000 posted:Like Quietly he is a talented guy with a unique style that doesnt always work all the time but, when it does, nobody could replace it. The highs are high and the lows are very low
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The Goon posted:I don't understand how anyone could like JRJR's art. If it weren't for the fact that I'm down to only collecting Action and Superman at this point from DC (which is a new low record for me) then I'd be dropping that book as well. I think Romita's like Quitely in that he draws pretty ugly people, but makes up for it with good panel work and poses. I think there can be a difference between somebody who is an striking artist and somebody good at doing comic work. Neither Romita or Quitely are good at drawing pretty people but both are talented at the panel, pose, and gutter skills of putting a comic page together. Romita's a good comic artist, just not an attractive one, if that makes sense.
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I'm not a big Quitely fan but he has done some really impressive, experimental stuff in like We3 and, for example, that one issue of New X-Men that doesn't have any words in it. Conversely here's nothing good or interesting going on in a page like this, which just looks like it was made by an amateur:
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm not a big Quitely fan but he has done some really impressive, experimental stuff in like We3 and, for example, that one issue of New X-Men that doesn't have any words in it. Conversely here's nothing good or interesting going on in a page like this, which just looks like it was made by an amateur: That jumping Spidey is just embarrassing.
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Feb 3, 2015 06:16
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Some small teasers from Convergence week 1's writers Not a lot but Marz has certainly piqued my interest with this quote:IGN: What can you tease about what fans can expect from your comic? Sign me the gently caress up.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Some small teasers from Convergence week 1's writers Yep the return of the good Jason Todd aka the one from Batman and Robin.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yep the return of the good Jason Todd aka the one from Batman and Robin. Going by the comments about the Father-son aspect being the biggest angle, I'm expecting for the story to give closure to the animosity between Jason and Bruce and bring it closer to the N52 version. I sure do hope red haired Jason rots on the comic book limbo though.
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm not a big Quitely fan but he has done some really impressive, experimental stuff in like We3 and, for example, that one issue of New X-Men that doesn't have any words in it. Conversely here's nothing good or interesting going on in a page like this, which just looks like it was made by an amateur: That is absolutely a rush job. I ignored the hell out of AvX but I'm guessing because it was an event book editors were putting pressure on creative. I agree, this page looks absolutely awful. It only vaguely resembles his normal art though, which is great. A couple of random examples:    That said, I wouldn't fault someone for being mad at JRJR for being the artist on Kick-rear end. I don't blame him, those Millarbux have to feel good in the pocket and feeding the kids. But it doesn't stop me from wishing it was someone else. I think the reason this bothers me so much is not really that someone is talking poo poo about an artist I like, but in general I'm bugged by this focus on "pretty people" which seems to spur most of this type of criticism: Quitely's "potato faces" or Steve Dillion's one face are generally irritating and facile complaints. I'm also reminded of criticism of artists that used to kill it but have fallen off for whatever reason, at least when the critics act like they're bad newcomers. Like those directed towards some of Howard Chaykin's more recent work for hire endeavors. (Satellite Sam makes it clear that he just didn't give a gently caress about Hawkgirl and needed cash, and I've heard that he totally delegated it to assistants) Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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Feb 3, 2015 11:12
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I find the comparison between Quietley and JRJR unfair. They're not even in the same league. JRJR is a cartoonist, Quietley is an artist. Warning: do not view before sleeping Also here have some Pax Americana for Quietley being really drat good at comic books 
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Feb 3, 2015 14:19
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First Bass posted:JRJR is a cartoonist, Quietley is an artist.  I can't believe someone actually uses that distinction as a measure of quality.
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Feb 3, 2015 14:50
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Going by the comments about the Father-son aspect being the biggest angle, I'm expecting for the story to give closure to the animosity between Jason and Bruce and bring it closer to the N52 version. I sure do hope red haired Jason rots on the comic book limbo though. Or maybe they throw him in the crowbar factory and blow it up.
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This just in, people who draw comics aren't artists
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First Bass posted:I find the comparison between Quietley and JRJR unfair. They're not even in the same league. I didn't make any statements on their respective levels of talent or differences between. Thanks for the opinion, still! seriously though did you hold your pinky in the air as you posted
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First Bass posted:I find the comparison between Quietley and JRJR unfair. They're not even in the same league. JRJR is a cartoonist, Quietley is an artist. Quietley is like my favorite comic book artist ever, I don't really care for JRJR, and this is still really insufferably smug and elitist.
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