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Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008


http://www.nerdist.com/podcast/james-bonding/

There seems to be a general buzz around RGD that James Bonding is one of our new favorite podcasts. Also, there really isn't anywhere else on the forums to discuss James Bond so I figured this could be a catchall for that sort of discussion, because Matt Mira and Matt Gourley both think that Roger Moore is really good and I can't take it.

Anyway, for those of you who don't know, James Bonding is a podcast hosted by Matt Gourley, of Superego and Andy Daly's pilot podcast project fame, and Matt Mira, of Nerdist and such, in which they and a guest or two discuss a James Bond film. They are a little over half way done with the Eon produced films, so that gives any newcomers a big backlog to go through as well as a bunch more to look forward to. The true charm of the show, at least for me, is that both hosts are very much superfans of the Bond franchise and know facts and tidbits that have me watching the movies over again. Also they have funny and equally engaged guests, like podcast superstar Paul F Tompkins.

It's a great show if you like James Bond, or if you are just starting out with the franchise and need a reference point to keep you intereested.

Oh and here is the namesake of the thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOrA9-2xnGY

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Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

So far my favorite episodes have been Live and Let Die, Diamonds are Forever and Casino Royale. I have been putting of listening to the Goldfinger episode because honestly I've heard its a bundle of negativity and that bums me out.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Why have they stopped updating on iTunes?

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

dunno, im a bad podcast listener because most of the time I just listen to it on the website. I'll check out the twitter to see if they said anything.

Wallrod
Sep 27, 2004
Stupid Baby Picture
It came through on iTunes alright for me. The recent iTunes update has some dumb poo poo with podcasts, you might need to tick the subscription box and set it to download automatically for the individual podcast entry. If all else fails just try re-adding the feed i guess.

Wallrod fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 12, 2014

Unmature
May 9, 2008
I discovered this podcast when it was three or four episodes in and fell in LOVE. It's routinely my favorite thing I listen to that week (at least when it comes out). I was a fan of Mira and Gourley already so putting them together was an instant draw.

Before this show I had seen a grand total of three Bond films (Casino Royale, Skyfall and Goldfinger) and since then I've watched every one they've talked about and am a couple ahead. I can't stand waiting for them any more since we're lucky to get one real episode a month. I'm not blaming them or anything, they're both clearly really busy. That's just what happens to podcasts that are passion side projects born out of too much downtime.

Since there are so few episodes coming out regularly I hope this thread turns into a general Bond discussion. I'm probably gonna watch The Living Daylights tonight.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

ooh living daylights is my favorite. Lemme know what you think, especially if you have watched License to Kill because those movies are so different its crazy.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
Yeah I watched Licence to Kill last week. Took me three nights since I was mostly putting it on right before bed.

I thought it was TERRIBLE for most of it, but it came together in the second half. The chase at the end kicked rear end. I actually really liked Dalton as Bond, despite his terrible wardrobe. I did not like this era's M, though.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

yeah Dalton is my favorite and he got shoehorned into a crappy Miami Vice rip off instead of good spy poo poo. And addtionally screwed by the Mcclory lawsuit. Have you listened to the goldfinger episode? Is it as negative as the people say.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Politicalrancor posted:

yeah Dalton is my favorite and he got shoehorned into a crappy Miami Vice rip off instead of good spy poo poo. And addtionally screwed by the Mcclory lawsuit. Have you listened to the goldfinger episode? Is it as negative as the people say.

No, anyone complaining about that episode is a sexist loser. It's just a bunch of manbaby neckbeard fedora-tipping dorks upset that girls have opinions. The things they make fun of are the same things they make fun of in every other classic Bond episode, but this time there are two girls pointing out that hey, maybe rape isn't an endearing quality in a hero.

I've listened to most episodes two or three times and that one's one of my favorites.

Also, I should mention I'm not actually a huge fan of Goldfinger. The first act is interesting, but then Bond just kinda gets carted around by Goldfinger then doesn't really do much until that super lame fight with Oddjob.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

oh ok good, I just was worried they just poo poo on the whole thing.

Yeah, Goldfinger starts with a bang and peters out by the end. I think goldfingers plan is stupid anyway and why is a british spy doing all the legwork for an american criminal committing a crime against the us government? Then again, early Bond villains have a bunch of dumb plans.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
Living Daylights was pretty cool! It lost me a bit in the second half, and a lot of the final action setpiece was pretty lame except for the real dudes hanging out of a plane, but mostly it's classic Bond. I was worried after watching Licence to Kill that it would be more Miami Vice bullshit, but it feels more akin to the better parts of the Brosnan era.

The villains are pretty weak too. I liked Georgi, but Baker was just a fat American dude. Which is ironic since that's the reason I love his character in the Brosnan movies. And how weird is it to have him be a villain just to come back a couple movies later as an ally? Especially since he's a legendarily bad actor but the Broccolis were still like, "We NEED this guy back!" Dalton didn't have much nuance in his Bond, but I still like him. He's just so handsome. That jaw! Dude needs a hair stylist, though. Come on, Q, give this guy a comb that doesn't explode STAT. The waifish cute Bond girl was almost an interesting idea too, until the movie keeps constantly reminding you how useless she is. She's adorable, but every time she starts doing something well she fucks up immediately and Bond saves her. Like in the plane at the end. She flies a plane (cool) then bats her eyes at Bond and almost crashes into a mountain (not as cool).

But yeah, not the best but a solid fun time.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

one of my favorite intro's too.

Why does james bond like swimming so much?

Unmature
May 9, 2008
ALSO WEIRD how Felix Leiter is played by David Hedison in Live and Let Die, then here 15 years later he's replaced with Whitey McWhitebread. Then in the VERY NEXT MOVIE they go back to Hedison and suddenly Felix is an old man. I'm not complaining since Hedison is an awesome Felix Leiter.

Politicalrancor posted:

Why does james bond like swimming so much?

It's just an excuse for blue terrycloth.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

yeah its very weird but also why bring the guy back if you're gonna just absolutely torture the guy? Also I want that felix "lighter"

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

Anyone who complained about the Goldfinger episode is a giant idiot baby.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Beef Jerky Robot posted:

Anyone who complained about the Goldfinger episode is a giant idiot baby.

:hfive:

I really felt bad for them when Mira was talking about it in the following weeks. Apparently it was the first time anyone had ever used the word "oval office" on the Nerdist comments section.

I fuckin' hate nerds. Chris Hardwick too, but that's a different thing.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer
The good news is there's a new James Bonding episode. Bad news it has Ali and Georgia again. Considering how most people hate the other ep they were in I'm not sure I should bother.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

The Ape of Naples posted:

The good news is there's a new James Bonding episode. Bad news it has Ali and Georgia again. Considering how most people hate the other ep they were in I'm not sure I should bother.

Dude, check your privilege.

But seriously, the only reason dorks hate on them is because they're women.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Unmature posted:

Dude, check your privilege.

But seriously, the only reason dorks hate on them is because they're women.

I dunno. I didn't dislike the other episodes that had women on it. I'll probably just check it out and bail if/when it starts to not be fun.

Fiendly
May 27, 2010

That's not right!
This new one is much worse than their previous one. Matt Gourley is completely absent (although Ian Fleming makes an appearance) and even Mira is clearly very frustrated by Ali and Georgia throughout. They had a lot of good points and interesting feedback in their original appearance and I actually really like that episode, but a lot of their complaints are things that apply to virtually every work of fiction (which Gourley called them on last time and they stopped doing that afterwards) and their review of Casino Royale boils down almost entirely to those sorts of things along with things related exclusively to their bias against the series (and Daniel Craig does not look like and angry penis!). The episode has its moments overall, but a lot of it is really agonizing even if you appreciate a feminist perspective on things.

Coco13
Jun 6, 2004

My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
As someone that graduated from ITT Tech in henching, I thought it was a weak episode. I thought the girls perspective on Goldfinger being 'Hey, James Bond is an awful person' was really interesting, but asking someone to review something they didn't finish is trouble. Plus, neither Matt or Jordan gave the impression they saw Royale recently either. Only thing that could have saved the episode was if Dalton popped out of the audience to give his biggest fan a nineteen ninety hi five.

EmotionlessThug
Feb 14, 2012

Hi, I've barely watched any james bond movies and have no interest in doing so, but I like SUperego, is this podcast worth listening to?

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

erezaka posted:

Hi, I've barely watched any james bond movies and have no interest in doing so, but I like SUperego, is this podcast worth listening to?

Yeah, I haven't seen many Bond movies either and not in a while. I'd say try the 1st episode with PFT. You'll get an idea as to what the episodes are like. I've skipped bunch but the ones I like I enjoyed without seeing the movies. See if you like any of the guests and go with those. You can jump around. They're not that in depth. I'm rambling. Try episode 001 and go from there.

Kangra
May 7, 2012

On the subject of James Bond and podcasting, there's also the 5byBond segments of 5by5's run of The Talk Show.

There's less comedic energy (compared to James Bonding), and it's almost entirely just the two of them (Dan Benjamin and John Gruber) going over the films in order. There is some good commentary on the production at times, as Gruber seems to be a really big fan of Ken Adam.

Since these were not done as a separate podcast, but as an occasional segment at the end of the regular podcast, if you only want to hear the Bond segments (and not three-year-old discussions of Apple news), use this handy guide to the episodes and start times.


Unmature posted:

ALSO WEIRD how Felix Leiter is played by David Hedison in Live and Let Die, then here 15 years later he's replaced with Whitey McWhitebread. Then in the VERY NEXT MOVIE they go back to Hedison and suddenly Felix is an old man. I'm not complaining since Hedison is an awesome Felix Leiter.

I like the theory that Felix is a master of disguise. Probably fakes his death now and then, too.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

God, I wish this podcast came out more often. Ive been going back through old episodes to get my fix.

I listened to On Her Majesty's Secret Service again, as well as rewatched the movie and god its just not good. They do make the point at the end and really throughout that Lazenby is just bad at acting. Like he certainly looks the part but everything else he does detracts from the movie or actively takes you out of it.

I think there is a lot of push back regarding the film because it gets a bad rap for having a one and done Bond, which wasn't even Eon's choice, but Lazenby's poo poo attitude that rejected doing another one. It's probably a saving grace that they didn't go on with his super hacky acting. It probably could be a pretty good movie otherwise.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
I like a lot about OHMSS. It's just such a weird and trippy 60s movie.

Kangra
May 7, 2012

If nothing else, you have to admit Diana Rigg is awesome. I was always a fan of the movie, even if Lazenby's not that great as Bond.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

Diana Rigg is great but she is dropped out of the middle of the movie and James goes and fucks that allergic to chicken woman. Which ostensibly is a very James thing to do but the way they muck it up kinda sucks

Unmature
May 9, 2008
Yeah it's weird that he totally falls in love with this lady then goes to his weird cult harem and doesn't mention her ONCE then comes back and marries her.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer
FYI, It looks like there's a bunch of Bond movies just added to US Netflix. I haven't really seen many Bond films but I enjoyed the podcast. It'll be good to watch these and go back an listen to some of the episodes.

AstroWhale
Mar 28, 2009
Wow, I just discovered this thread and want to check out this podcast. I also just watched OHMSS and I thought it was awful. Starting with Bond's voice change it just went downhill. Also what was Blofeld's plan? I wasn't paying attention anymore. This movie just drags. The only exciting parts were in the last 30 minutes.

edit: Yes, that chicken lady. That was just dumb. OHMSS just set the tone for the Roger Moore Bond movies, I believe.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

Blofeld's plan is to put the "allergic" women in place to assassinate world leaders, I think. Very much the plan from Zoolander, basically. Or maybe it was something about money too, Blofeld always wants money too. OHMSS is quirky in some fun ways but it is really directionless in the wake of Connery's initial departure. Also I'd say the complete silliness of Diamonds Are Forever has more Moore aspects than OHMSS. Diamonds might even be sillier than Live and Let Die.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Kinda glad I found this thread before we did Episode 1 of our podcast 'Word is Bond' (which I think is a better name, personally). A shame, because I was looking forward to amplifying my "I don't really care much for James Bond" personality into some kind of crazed monster who absolutely hates all Bond movies.

Back to the drawing board...

Unmature
May 9, 2008

EL BROMANCE posted:

'Word is Bond' (which I think is a better name, personally).

It's good, but no.

Punch Card
Sep 13, 2005

by Ralp

Unmature posted:

It's good, but no.

Should be "Bond is Word"

Crankit
Feb 7, 2011

HE WATCHES
Tilda swinton in pigeondoubletake

Unmature
May 9, 2008
New episode! Another mission briefing, but I'll take it!

Also with a swanky new theme by Paul and Storm!

AstroWhale
Mar 28, 2009
So I listened to some episodes and would recommend it.

  • The sky plot in Skyfall is really dumb. Why doesn't she call back all the undercover agents? How did Silva know everything?
    Why is Bond alone in the end? She is the head of the MI6. You could spare some soldiers to protect her.
  • There are actually flaws in Casino Royale. There are plot holes in the end part. How did Mr. White get there so quickly?
    Why does Le Chiffre say: Your friend Mathis is actually my friend Mathis? Why does he keep lying?
    The beach part is way to melodramatic. The sinking house in Venice is way over the top.
  • I liked Quantum of Solace more on my second viewing. It looks beautiful. The actual spy plot is still underwhelming.
  • We had three origin type movies. It's enough.
  • Dr. No is still great.


I can't wait until I get to the Brosnan episodes.

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Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

2 things about Skyfall, I think she doesn't call back the agents out of pride. The whole "ill be damned if I left it in worse shape than I found it" line, though maybe im misremembering things.
They couldn't bring anyone because they couldn't trust anyone, as they might be compromised by Silva. Silva is a meticulously planning psychopath, everything he's done is in service of killing M in his way.

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