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OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
Fun fact: Seattle is the only major city of which I'm aware to have elected a radical Socialist to city council within recent memory.
Unfun fact: Idaho is full of Nazis and Libertarians.

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OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
We also have a large share of libertarian computer millionaires, and they certainly don't want a progressive tax code.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
Oh great, another hipster moving up north.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

Hippies, anti-vacation, vegans, anarchists, survivalists, hipsters, and pretty much a ton of people who didn't like the way things were where they came from and are more or less happy to be left alone to do what ever they want here.

Man, that second guy sounds like a real downer.

:backtowork:

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

And Indian guru and his follower attempted to create a a town, and when the locals started complaining they tried to just take over the local government, going so far as to spread salmonella in near by restaurants.

There was a pro-Rajneeshi poster around here just a few months ago. I'm not even joking.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

Mojo Threepwood posted:

What's the general opinion about Spokane? I lived there for a few years and while it does stack up poorly next to Seattle culturally and with things to do, it's not a total wasteland.

The outskirts are a little shady, and you have a large militia/white supremacist community there just like all of East Washington.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

Gerund posted:

Their roads are shiiiiiiiiiit. There are dirt roads within a mile of downtown and potholes all over the place.

On the other hand there are a lot of great lakes and parks within 45 minutes.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

Rookersh posted:

So what's the chance this $15 minimum wage thing actually passes? I work at Union Square and it's this crazy mix of rich business types super furious about the very idea, and lawyers/politicians super stoked about the possibilities it opens up.

Within seattle itself the odds are good.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
While I'm said about the reasons for his departure from WA politics, he really was terrible. Rodney Tom Is the Worst Person in Washington

quote:

As you may recall from recent coverage, Senator Tom abandoned his Democratic caucus earlier this year along with his buddy Tim Sheldon to form a narrow Republican majority. So Tom, who was elected as a Democrat, is now running the GOP and serving as the pied piper of its obstructionist, conservative agenda. But he pretends that's not what's happening—he pretends he's being bipartisan and that he "supports" things like women's rights and immigration reform.

No one likes being lied to, Senator Tom. I'm certainly tired of hearing you proudly proclaim your pro-choice position—and touting support you've received from pro-choice organizations—and then, when we had a chance to pass the Reproductive Parity Act, watching you hand the bill to a committee led by anti-choice senator Randi Becker who, predictably, prevented it from coming to a vote. (Thanks for telling me straight-facedly that you knew she'd "hear bills that she might not be the strongest believer in" and that "it's important for [committee] members to have an open mind.")


http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/rodney-tom-traitor/Content?oid=15506075

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The Republicans straight-facedly touted their coup as a "bipartisan Majority Coalition Caucus," but of course there's nothing bipartisan about it. The "coalition" consists of the 23-member Republican Caucus, plus the not-really-Democratic Tim Sheldon of Potlatch and the Republican-turned- Democrat-turned-Republican-collaborator Rodney Tom of Medina. For their treachery, Tom gets the powerful "majority" leader position while Sheldon gets president pro tempore (plus several plum committee assignments).

In the service of maintaining the fiction of bipartisanship, senate Republicans offered their Democratic counterparts the privilege of chairing several minor committees. But the fact is that Republicans will control the most important committees with the most critical agendas: Health & Long-Term Care (which will deal with Obamacare Medicaid expansion and the Reproductive Parity Act), Early Learning & K–12 Education (which will address the McCleary decision), and Ways & Means (which will address the budget). These are the committees where Governor Jay Inslee's Democratic agenda will go to die.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
Yeah it's sad to see him voluntarily leave before voters got a chance to kick him out.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
$15 is seeming a bit precarious, and I'm thinking it will be gutted ($15/hr, minus the cost of benefits) if passed at all. Is anyone else around here more hopeful?

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
The protests seem much smaller than those in 2013 and the polls show that business propaganda is paying off. I think the longer we wait the more time business groups have to regroup after being blindsided by Kshama's election and SeaTac wage.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
As we hoped, Sawant scares CEOs into submission. Murray got $15 from business by doing the following tactic: "I've got a reasonable plan to phase-in the new minimum wage and get you a few concessions. But you need to agree now because time is running out and people are getting impatient, and I have absolutely no idea what Sawant is capable of. She's a bit of a loose cannon and is already mobilizing support to bypass us entirely with a ballot initiative." For better or worse it worked and business have theoretically agreed to $15.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
The ballot fight would have been extremely difficult and might have failed. These are awful concessions but considering the relative weakness of labor this is a tremendous victory from any angle, and it would not have happened if it had just been friendly, progressive Ed Murray negotiating with the businesses without the alternative of a scary socialist talking about nationalizing Boeing waiting in the wings. Her election is already paying off. Three thousand miles away, De Blasio is allegedly trying to get a similar wage increase passed after seeing the success in Seattle.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
Redistricting may prevent her from a second term on city council, and there's no chance for higher office than that.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

Accretionist posted:

Hell, a flat tax would be a huge step up. Those typically exempt your first $X of income.

A flat tax followed by tax cuts for 65% of people later would actually be a tricky way to impose a progressive taxation system.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
That would be great but unfortunately voters around here are just too drat stupid.

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OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009
Had?

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