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Ocean of Milk
Jun 25, 2018

oh yeah


I mean it's one file, Michael. What could it take to transfer it, 10 seconds?

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Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off


AlbertFlasher posted:

contrary to popular belief but bsd is in fact cool and good

BSD is just for people that thinks Linux is too mainstream

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band

lol it's true

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009

System Access Node
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Kamrat posted:

BSD is just for people that thinks Linux is too mainstream
what does that make Illumos?

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009


BlankSystemDaemon posted:

what does that make Illumos?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008



Ocean of Milk posted:

I mean it's one file, Michael. What could it take to transfer it, 10 seconds?

the fastest drives should almost do that

mystes
May 31, 2006



AlbertFlasher posted:

contrary to popular belief but bsd is in fact cool and good
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3986916

RokosCockatrice
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.


I use zoom for work and its support for linux sucks so hard

Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]

RokosCockatrice posted:

I use zoom for work and it sucks so hard

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle



SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Kamrat posted:

He did, he even talks about how he missed the notification in the video.

That's also why he thought he was done moving his 4gb file in 3 seconds to his thumbstick, he just wasn't looking at the notification area. I don't get why he thought that moving a 4gb file to a thumbstick would just take a couple of seconds however... but I guess that's Linus being Linus.

Good pointing that out. Lifes too short to watch entire videos of hubristic key banging.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018



VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008





I know

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011



lol

RobobTheGreat
Jul 14, 2003

Mind your manners when talking to the king!

RokosCockatrice posted:

I use zoom for work and its support for linux sucks so hard

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

urf. urg. mmph. i'm a stupid blind guy with no legs. urrrg. hurble. i'm homeless. gblgblbgblgblgble

my problem with ECS is that inevitability you have to reinvent a bunch of poo poo that comes out of the box; or are well supported community poo poo that a million guides and good documentation exists to use.

Iíd rather run K8s then build a bunch of internal tooling to replicate that. which every sufficiently advanced ECS team tends to end up having.

if you really hate K8s that much; the real hipster alternative to K8s is Nomad, way simpler and solves a bunch of the stuff K8s did with better tooling like consul and vault.

AWSís NIH and whole lovely disbelief that folks wanted K8s over ECS was pretty great to hear as a customer for years though. they are now repeating it by reinventing a bunch of stuff for EKS, instead of putting it in the community projects.


also K8s ainít for everyone; lots of places donít need it. but ootb it tries to improve your life by solving poo poo like disk filling up or services OOMing

Edit: also if your listening AWS; trash fargate and lambda and just copy cloudrun

Why do I need an ECS or EKS api with a bunch of drawbacks, or why am I doing hacky poo poo after a total rewrite to trick the AWS api into not exiting my lambda.

freeasinbeer fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Dec 9, 2021

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Idk if the oom killer reaping your pod counts as solving a problem. but at least itís replacing a bad problem with a different, arguably less bad problem

mycophobia
May 7, 2008



i installed the latest ubuntu and when i fullscreen a video in firefox and unfullscreen it it changes the window geometry to fill the screen ftw lol. clean install. wtf is happening

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

urf. urg. mmph. i'm a stupid blind guy with no legs. urrrg. hurble. i'm homeless. gblgblbgblgblgble

Nomnom Cookie posted:

Idk if the oom killer reaping your pod counts as solving a problem. but at least itís replacing a bad problem with a different, arguably less bad problem

OOM killer is not a super great example fair. it speaks to why I like K8s though:


the killer feature for me is that I can now manage a bunch of apps easily with some guardrails built in, when the other option is a huge pile of chef ansible or puppet which is bespoke and full of insanity. or god forbid a bunch of salt.

tbh I see K8s as more of a config management replacement then anything else.

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad

Fun Shoe

mycophobia posted:

i installed the latest ubuntu and when i fullscreen a video in firefox and unfullscreen it it changes the window geometry to fill the screen ftw lol. clean install. wtf is happening

Yes, but does your sound work

mycophobia
May 7, 2008



is fedora good. as far as linuxes go

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad

Fun Shoe

mycophobia posted:

is fedora good. as far as linuxes go

it's a good linux but not very stable

props to Fedora for making Wayland the default though, now people like you can test it out for display bugs

also you can test btrfs for filesystem bugs

Poopernickel fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Dec 9, 2021

mycophobia
May 7, 2008



hmm. i do like stability. id keep using debian stable but i got scared by some article saying that its firefox is old as gently caress and has bad security vulnerabilities

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


mycophobia posted:

hmm. i do like stability. id keep using debian stable but i got scared by some article saying that its firefox is old as gently caress and has bad security vulnerabilities

Use backports

https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011


Doesn't firefox ESR still get the security patches?

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Buck Turgidson posted:

Doesn't firefox ESR still get the security patches?

Not directly from mozilla - but yes, and why iceweasel was retired

https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


mycophobia posted:

is fedora good. as far as linuxes go

it's needs suiting for me op

mycophobia
May 7, 2008



idk i read this today and it kind of made me want to look into alternatives. but i also just wanted to see what else was out there because ive been on debian for a few years lol.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian

but i might just go back gently caress it who cares.

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano


Debian testing is fine, fedora is also fine

mycophobia
May 7, 2008



ok i will install fedora tomorrow and report back. good night

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011




ah, the web browser not allowed within 500 feet of schools

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


mycophobia posted:

idk i read this today and it kind of made me want to look into alternatives. but i also just wanted to see what else was out there because ive been on debian for a few years lol.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian

but i might just go back gently caress it who cares.

If you know or care about the debian way of doing things and want the latest packages, sid is fine for desktop use. They've added warnings if apt is going to do something devastating to your install. Then all you have to do is install firefox and it will track upstream almost exactly.


FYI usually only the most devastating bugs/vulnerabilities get patched in stable. It's really not the greatest for a desktop user. Intel/AMD semi-regularly push commits to the kernel for 6+ year old hardware that improve performance and battery life, there is an ongoing renaissance in video drivers, not to mention you're missing every feature added to your software since the feature freeze.



Here's the buglist:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2021-53/

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life


Fedora is great just make sure you enable rpm fusion repos and on the greeter select x11. Wayland might be alright for and GPUs but boy howdy is it still terrible for nvidia.



Why is windowing so complicated

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad

Fun Shoe

it's weird how "unstable" has such different meanings for Linux and Windows

for Windows, unstable means "might crash randomly for no reason"

for Linux, unstable means "updates will break your poo poo constantly"

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BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009

System Access Node
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freeasinbeer posted:

if you really hate K8s that much; the real hipster alternative to K8s is Nomad, way simpler and solves a bunch of the stuff K8s did with better tooling like consul and vault.
A neat thing is that nomad is also fairly platform agnostic

Poopernickel posted:

it's weird how "unstable" has such different meanings for Linux and Windows

for Windows, unstable means "might crash randomly for no reason"

for Linux, unstable means "updates will break your poo poo constantly"
So both mean that you end up losing data? That sounds fairly consistent.

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