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eschaton posted:for example you could put a few different systems in a rack and then use them from different terminals sprinkled throughout your home imagining an alternate reality where Apple makes an RJ45 dongle for the iPhone
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corona familiar posted:imagining an alternate reality where Apple makes an RJ45 dongle for the iPhone it's usb-c isn't it?
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i broadly assume that had apple not gone out of their way to disable it (for good security reasons) you could have plugged in a usb ethernet adapter into an iphone and it'd likely have just worked.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i broadly assume that had apple not gone out of their way to disable it (for good security reasons) you could have plugged in a usb ethernet adapter into an iphone and it'd likely have just worked. what would the "good security reasons" be?
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Shaggar posted:what would the "good security reasons" be? code surface area, so many old usb drivers that were written at a time when you wouldn't assume nefarious devices getting plugged in.
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ah, well, neat, there goes my assuming
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new opportunities await you in the world of home terminals
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time to set up that beowulf cluster you always wanted
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:ah, well, neat, there goes my assuming i suspect maybe the thing you were missing is that usb has a standardized device class spec for ethernet over usb, making generic drivers possible in fact, after having just looked it up, it appears that there's four such standards, because gently caress you that's why. the two that apple supports are cdc-ecm and cdc-ncm. if your device implements one of those, it's plug and play on apple's platforms with no driver install. (also on linux too, i would expect)
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lmao today i learned about gcc 15's -fzero-init-padding-bits=unions and exactly which bits the gcc developers consider "union padding bits". make sure you got the biggest union member at the front of your union or gcc will try to bust your attempt to initialize a union lol
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What's a good GNU+Linux distro for gaming, and only gaming?
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Jon Pod Van Damm posted:What's a good GNU+Linux distro for gaming, and only gaming? bazzite it's actually very good. basically what if fedora was steamos and extremely hands-off
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Nobara is also fantastic if you don’t want to deal with the universal blue image stuff that locks a bunch of stuff to read only. Nobara 41 just came out last week and has so far been wildly stable compared to the already wildly stable Nobara 40
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so i actually used nobara before switching to bazzite and it was the kind of janky mess you'd expect from a distribution maintained by exactly one nerd. constant issues and needs for one-off janitoring. then i switched to bazzite and had zero problems at all. if you want a reliable gaming appliance, just use bazzite
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shackleford posted:lmao today i learned about gcc 15's -fzero-init-padding-bits=unions and exactly which bits the gcc developers consider "union padding bits". make sure you got the biggest union member at the front of your union or gcc will try to bust your attempt to initialize a union lol You can only specify an initializer for one member of a union (the first member, or you can specify which one with a designated initializer: .fart=420). e: post your code because I don't understand what you are trying to do. if you want gcc to compare member sizes and pick the largest try -fsize-queen ryanrs fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jan 14, 2025 |
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if you initialized a union, gcc used to zero all of the part of the union you didn't initialize; C23 specifies that an empty initializer must zero the entire union and doesn't require any other initializer to do so, so gcc doesn't anymore unless you pass the magic "keep existing code working" command line option because gently caress you go gently caress yourself you worthless little poo poo, we're living high and mighty in our ivory tower and are under no obligation to deliver a useful product to you peons
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shackleford posted:lmao today i learned about gcc 15's -fzero-init-padding-bits=unions and exactly which bits the gcc developers consider "union padding bits". make sure you got the biggest union member at the front of your union or gcc will try to bust your attempt to initialize a union lol “let’s take C and make it unusable for C’s primary use case (kernel development)”
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ryanrs posted:if you want gcc to compare member sizes and pick the largest try -fsize-queen lmfao
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corona familiar posted:if you initialize a union and your compiler refuses to accept your code you can file a complaint with the national linker relations board
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pseudorandom name posted:if you initialized a union, gcc used to zero all of the part of the union you didn't initialize; C23 specifies that an empty initializer must zero the entire union and doesn't require any other initializer to do so, so gcc doesn't anymore unless you pass the magic "keep existing code working" command line option because gently caress you go gently caress yourself you worthless little poo poo, we're living high and mighty in our ivory tower and are under no obligation to deliver a useful product to you peons It shouldn't affect statically allocated unions because those live in static (.data or .bss) segments, just auto allocations? Not trying to minimize the significance of this, but I searched for the last code I wrote where I had to stack allocate a union whose members were of different sizes. I checked and apparently I did a "memset(&u, 0, sizeof(u))", maybe thinking I wasn't sure what GCC would do if I provided it with an initializer. Edit: Why does GCC have both -std=c17 and -std=c18? Is there confusion what the spec name is?
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corona familiar posted:if you initialize a union and your compiler refuses to accept your code you can file a complaint with the national linker relations board
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Edit: Why does GCC have both -std=c17 and -std=c18? Is there confusion what the spec name is? the standard was published in 2018, so the colloquial c17 is a bit weird
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the standard was published in 2018, so the colloquial c17 is a bit weird
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the C23 standard, aka ISO/IEC 9899:2024, was published in october 2024
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Progressive JPEG posted:i wonder if gcc still has a '-std=c++0x' flag I think both gcc and clang do, because software that built in the past should continue to build and removing those settings would prevent that which is part of why some of the changes around things like how structs and unions work are so annoying, they’re changing the behavior by default and requiring added options to get the old behavior that some code (like, say, device drivers) may rely on
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eschaton posted:which is part of why some of the changes around things like how structs and unions work are so annoying, they’re changing the behavior by default and requiring added options to get the old behavior that some code (like, say, device drivers) may rely on So does the -std flag preserve the old behavior or not?
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ExcessBLarg! posted:So does the -std flag preserve the old behavior or not? I agree that this seems like something that gcc should document.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:So does the -std flag preserve the old behavior or not? afaict "gcc-15 -std=c23" (the default) and "gcc-15 -std=c17" both have the new behavior while "gcc-14 -std=c23" and "gcc-14 -std=c17" both have the old behavior. that makes sense if you're a compiler developer i guess because the old and new behaviors are both consistent with the C standard looks like you gotta specifically specify -fzero-init-padding-bits=unions or -fzero-init-padding-bits=all if you want the old behavior, but only on gcc >= 15 because those are new flags
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perhaps this belongs in the embedded linux thread but i can't find it. you're all already talking about compilers though so i guess it fits i am trying to install curl_cffi on my router (a pretty ancient asus RT-AC88U running the "merlin" firmware and entware for openwrt packages). i was able to compile libffi without (much) trouble, but installing curl_cffi via pip always fails at the compilation stage (there are an absolute fuckton of ld errors, so i just copied the last few): pre:gcc -shared -Wl,--dynamic-linker=/opt/lib/ld-linux.so.3 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/lib -L/opt/usr/lib -L/opt/lib -fuse-ld=bfd -L/opt/lib -L/opt/lib -Wl,--dynamic-linker=/opt/lib/ld-linux.so.3 -Wl,-rpat
h=/opt/lib -L/opt/usr/lib -L/opt/lib -fuse-ld=bfd -L/opt/lib -L/opt/lib -Wl,-rpath=/opt/lib -Wl,--dynamic-linker=/opt/lib/ld-linux.so.3 -L/opt/lib, -lstdc++ -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfloat-abi=softfp -
mtune=cortex-a9 -mcpu=cortex-a9 -O2 -pipe -mtune=cortex-a9 -mfloat-abi=soft -mfloat-abi=softfp -mcpu=cortex-a9 build/temp.linux-armv7l-cpython-311/build/temp.linux-armv7l-cpython-311/curl_cffi._wr
apper.o build/temp.linux-armv7l-cpython-311/ffi/shim.o /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libcurl-impersonate-chrome.a /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libssl.a /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libcrypto.a /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libz.a
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/opt/bin/ld.bfd: error: /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libcurl-impersonate-chrome.a(libcurl_impersonate_chrome_la-easy.o) uses VFP register arguments, build/lib.linux-armv7l-cpython-311/curl_cffi/_wra
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/opt/bin/ld.bfd: failed to merge target specific data of file /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libbrotlicommon.a(transform.c.o)
/opt/bin/ld.bfd: error: /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libbrotlicommon.a(dictionary.c.o) uses VFP register arguments, build/lib.linux armv7l-cpython-311/curl_cffi/_wrapper.abi3.so does not
/opt/bin/ld.bfd: failed to merge target specific data of file /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libbrotlicommon.a(dictionary.c.o)
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
error: command '/opt/bin/gcc' failed with exit code 1
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ERROR: Failed building wheel for curl_cffi
Failed to build curl_cffi
/opt/bin/ld.bfd: error: /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libbrotlicommon.a(dictionary.c.o) uses VFP register arguments, build/lib.linux-armv7l-cpython-311/curl_cffi/_wrapper.abi3.so does not
/opt/bin/ld.bfd: failed to merge target specific data of file /opt/tmp/tmpp0dx35hr/libbrotlicommon.a(dictionary.c.o)
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
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ERROR: Failed building wheel for curl_cffi
Failed to build curl_cffi
ERROR: ERROR: Failed to build installable wheels for some pyproject.toml based projects (curl_cffi)pre:Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v7l) processor : 0 BogoMIPS : 2798.38 processor : 1 BogoMIPS : 2798.38 Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x3 CPU part : 0xc09 CPU revision : 0 Hardware : Northstar Prototype Revision : 0000 Serial : 0000000000000000 e: i also tried `pip install --no-binary :all: --compile curl_cffi`, which didn't work either (same problem). that's with LDFLAGS="-Wl,-rpath=/opt/lib -Wl,--dynamic-linker=/opt/lib/ld-linux.so.3 -L/opt/lib, -lstdc++ -mtune=cortex-a9 -mfloat-abi=softfp" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -mtune=cortex-a9 -mfloat-abi=softfp" and pip seems to use them. so idk wtf is going on Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 16, 2025 |
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