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celeron 300a posted:Yes what's the joke? isn't that exactly how linux development works?
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Soricidus posted:what's the joke? isn't that exactly how linux development works? people think systemd is one giant binary
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abloobloo monolithic
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Sep 29, 2015 19:13
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my stepdads beer posted:people think systemd is one giant binary yeah, it's definitely more of a spectrum
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Sep 29, 2015 20:53
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i've been migrating our debian vms to centos for new projects. yum is so much better than apt-get/apt-cache/apt-file/dpkg holy poo poo also kickstart actually works as documented
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my stepdads beer posted:debian vms mods?
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my stepdads beer posted:i've been migrating our debian vms to centos for new projects. yum is so much better than apt-get/apt-cache/apt-file/dpkg holy poo poo what's it like living in opposites world
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Sep 30, 2015 02:20
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vms is the bomb
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Sep 30, 2015 02:21
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:vms is the bomb it really isnt
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my stepdads beer posted:i've been migrating our debian vms to centos for new projects. yum is so much better than apt-get/apt-cache/apt-file/dpkg holy poo poo qft
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Sep 30, 2015 03:46
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yums weird convention of not hyphenating multi-word switches is really weird
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:yums weird convention of not hyphenating multi-word switches is really weird it is very weird. sometimes weird is forgivable. nice av/post combo
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Sep 30, 2015 03:55
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annapacketstormaya posted:it really isnt Sorry, forgot "ticking time" in there
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Sep 30, 2015 04:24
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yum is terrible aptitude rules
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Sep 30, 2015 09:27
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Soricidus posted:yum is terrible Ubuntu user spotted
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my stepdads beer posted:Worthless, linux-illiterate, self proclaimed 'techie,'-wannabe NEET who just installed ubuntu spotted
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Sep 30, 2015 09:39
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it is very weird. sometimes weird is forgivable. unforgivable in argument land imo --double-start-single-split reserved: -v is verbose -q is quiet -- ends arguments nice people have put all these into nice libraries and you're a bad person if you do anything else
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Sep 30, 2015 10:36
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my stepdads beer posted:Ubuntu user spotted nah plain debian actually
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Sep 30, 2015 10:52
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ahmeni posted:unforgivable in argument land imo sometimes -v is version (gcc), sometimes it's something else entirely (grep). sometimes -- is used to separate two logically consistent groups of arguments (git checkout) sometimes commands use - flags to specify sub behaviors (tar) and sometimes they use words (git, aptitude). there's not really a consistent way to do things except that --help should give you help and usually so should -h (except sometimes it doesn't, like du or df). its almost like there's a collection of utilities that has been growing since the 80s and there's no consistent way to do things, just memorize how to use a given command since you've already had to do it fort everything else you use
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Phobeste posted:sometimes -v is version (gcc), sometimes it's something else entirely (grep). sometimes -- is used to separate two logically consistent groups of arguments (git checkout) sometimes commands use - flags to specify sub behaviors (tar) and sometimes they use words (git, aptitude). there's not really a consistent way to do things except that --help should give you help and usually so should -h (except sometimes it doesn't, like du or df). its almost like there's a collection of utilities that has been growing since the 80s and there's no consistent way to do things, just memorize how to use a given command since you've already had to do it fort everything else you use how does it feel to be apologetic about a bunch of programs that have had 35 years to get it right
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pacman > apt >> yum, dnf, and whatever other garbage RH has shat out since then
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ahmeni posted:how does it feel to be apologetic about a bunch of programs that have had 35 years to get it right problem is they've had 35 years to become concrete and immutable
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Phobeste posted:sometimes commands use - flags to specify sub behaviors (tar) tar doesn't though? it's just tar xzf dongs.tar.gz I guess it also accepts -xzf to be kind to people who were expecting it to behave that way
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   MICRO$HAFT HAVE DEVELOPED THEIR OWN LINUX DISTRO
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http://www.wired.com/2015/09/microsoft-built-linux-everyone-else/
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The irony is, the same lack of organization and corporate fuckery (well, okay, Redhat basically is corporate fuckery that contributes to most of the Linux Kernel, but it's nowhere near the corporate fuckery of Microsoft and Apple) that allowed Microsoft to go about spreading blatantly untrue disinformation campaigns and attempt to sue whatever Linux Foundation or RHEL entity that they sued, also allows them to now build their own distro without being entirely shut down. Not being a blaring hypocrite like microsoft, I see no problem with them doing this and don't feel like they need to be singled out legally. However, culturally? ROFL. Microsoft is a loving joke. If only the following syntax worked to remove their existence from the world as a whole... code:
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alright team. audacity crashes when i click anything inside it basically 50% of the time now. and it takes the whole x server with it.
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audacity crashing is a standard feature available on all platforms; it crashing X at the same time is a Linux exclusive though
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Mr Dog posted:what's it like living in opposites world
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Ha ha, crazy kevin is so wacky, he always likes to cut up at the 9PM blue-ball agile huddle
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http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/
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just went from the nouveau drives to proprietary nvidia ones and holy poo poo the performance increase is insane. oddly though now my xfce4 won't change themes, gonna have to figure out why later
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couldn't handle the brutul owns of oepn sources
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http://lwn.net/Articles/659221/#Comments oh good and there's already the inevitable shitrobot commenter even in lwn beep boop human life and human dignity is exclusively measured in united states dollars at least he's getting shouted the gently caress down by literally everybody else
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on the other hand, the only instance i can turn up of Sarah Sharp objecting to LKML posting is this message: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137390362508794&w=2 which uh... isn't in any way threatening or vulgar at all? Poettering gave far more convincing examples of objectionable behaviour, specifically that Linus said certain people should be "retroactively aborted" and wondered how certain people survived when they were "probably too stupid at birth to find a tit to suck on", which is definitely rather off-putting. i'm not going to fanboy linus torvalds but i mean let's at least pick on the worst poo poo if there's a case to be made here.
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Sarah has been there and dealt with it, and talked to several offenders privately, because it's not something that needs to be public. When she wrote that first email about it publicly, it exploded. We cheered her on, but the general gist was "oh, shut up and just deal with the torrent of abuse you're getting". Thus why she didn't say anything publicly again. I also want to remind people that this isn't just a "woman in computers" thing. I counted, and I know 20 colleagues, former and present, who have sworn off kernel development entirely because of the toxic attitude. All but one of them male, all of them from diverse cultural backgrounds.
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