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Soricidus posted:-- someone who isn't familiar with ieee 754
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ratbert90 posted:RHEL in the streets.
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And even after you get your six month old snapshot, you have to account for volunteer maintainers from Debian who disappear for three years at a stretch but don't orphan their packages so someone else can take over without stepping on toes. This is one of several that I've had to work around as someone who distributes a Debian-based internal developer image: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731634 (Ubuntu ships the old version too)
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I successfully convinced my office to rebuild its few Ubuntu machines into centos
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Captain Foo posted:I successfully convinced my office to rebuild its few Ubuntu machines into centos Good. Hopefully it's CentOS7 with SELinux enabled.
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Sep 11, 2016 17:29
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centos is good
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tbf how many centos machines out there in the wild run without the epl repository because that's kind of the same deal
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ratbert90 posted:Good. Hopefully it's CentOS7 with SELinux enabled.
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Mr Dog posted:tbf how many centos machines out there in the wild run without the epl repository 1. epel is not that bad -- it's versioned and has very specific maintenance standards. no, it's not supported by the vendor, but it's a far cry from the horrors of universe or multiverse. it's not a giant bleeding gash of security holes. 2. most users don't need epel for anything. all the things i listed that cannot be done with the set of supported ubuntu packages can be done with RHEL + Red Hat Software Collections. (yes, RH SCL has a shorter support cycle than RHEL itself, but it's fully supported)
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apparently HHVM was in EPEL for CentOS 6 but it's not for CentOS 7 so I'd have to install it manually
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:flattering
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Sep 11, 2016 19:33
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yeah rhel is extremely ftw and i do keep selinux enabled on all my centos boxes still, i should definitely take the time to learn selinux in depth at some point beyond my current knowledge of "all processes have process types, all files have file types, and there's a central root-owned policy database exhaustively listing what subset of interactions between the cartesian product of all process types and file types are not forbidden"
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:get a real job, i guess? Oh yeah I meant outside of the business world. The people I know who run LOTD (or LOTL) mostly run Ubuntu.
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Also I too have that post bookmarked to try to convince people to use a different distro, but no one ever listens to me =(
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VikingofRock posted:Oh yeah I meant outside of the business world. The people I know who run LOTD (or LOTL) mostly run Ubuntu. My laptop runs Fedora 23
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Sep 11, 2016 20:44
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VikingofRock posted:Oh yeah I meant outside of the business world. The people I know who run LOTD (or LOTL) mostly run Ubuntu. those people are dumb too they should migrate to fedora or upstream debian where the support policies are less insane
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Sep 12, 2016 01:50
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posters sure are getting mad about distros itt meanwhile im still running arch on my macbook air with i3 and zsh 
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My home desktop runs arch with zsh, KDE, and an anime wallpaper (it rotates through this pack). I'm pretty happy with it even if I am a walking stereotype.
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VikingofRock posted:My home desktop runs arch with zsh, KDE, and an anime wallpaper (it rotates through this pack). I'm pretty happy with it even if I am a walking stereotype. pro wallpaper pack also arch is good but i guess fedora is probably decent too these days. the name is kind of unfortunate though.
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Thanks. I'm pretty seriously considering Fedora for my next desktop distro. I really like pacman, and how extremely bleeding edge arch is, but SELinux seems pretty neato too.
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i bought this laptop in november 2014 and it has been running one install of arch continuously since then, i see no reason that has to change any time soon. i have a few minor annoyances with arch but on balance it's teh best distro for desktoping with. my old desktop pc ran one installation of windows 7 from 2010 until 2015 when its power supply kamikazed half of the components in the system man remember back when reinstalling you're os was a thing that regularly happened? crazy times eh lads
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if arch is working for you i guess keep doing what works? it doesn't have to be complicated my Strong Distro Opinions are largely limited to "friends don't let friends use ubuntu"
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Sep 12, 2016 04:13
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arch has a very nice wiki
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:arch has a very nice wiki
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:arch has a very nice wiki also i vote keep using arch until it pisses you off by breaking something. no reason to switch before that.
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Fedora is good.
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the arch wiki seriously owns. I don't use arch, but that wiki helped me a couple of times.
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I flattened my VPS and reinstalled CentOS only to discover that someone marked libresolv as "retired" in EPEL so DNF no longer works
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there's apparently no reason for the missing library; it's been like that for months and someone offered money to fix it in a bug report
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why is your libresolv coming from EPEL?
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spankmeister posted:why is your libresolv coming from EPEL? well, it's not
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if i understood it correctly dnf requires a newer version which was in epel and isn't anymore. idgi anyway i'm using yum and compiling hhvm so i can make my lovely website webscale
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that shouldn't happen at all libresolv + dnf should be coming from base. i can imagine epel having libresolv in the past, before rhel switched to dnf and now it comes in the base packages so they removed it
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oh yum is still default on 7, just use that
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spankmeister posted:oh yum is still default on 7, just use that it's slow, and bad.
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i have very strong opinion on package managers they're all far better than the lovely alternative i have to deal with on windows also, i use ubanto on my laptop because it's the only distro that just works with it, including sound!!!
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ubadtu
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VikingofRock posted:Thanks. I'm pretty seriously considering Fedora for my next desktop distro. I really like pacman, and how extremely bleeding edge arch is, but SELinux seems pretty neato too. unironically switch to gentoo. you can have all the selinux you could ever want, and also have the same bleeding edge stuff as arch has. just remember to install it with systemd, not openrc.
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Truga posted:i have very strong opinion on package managers what's wrong with the windows store? 
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:arch has a very nice wiki Arch not only disables SELinux by default they disable it from the kernel build itself.
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