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Gazpacho posted:poser From my Fedora 28 install, the best desktop distro there is. 
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:gentoo is garbage trash and unfit for any purpose aside from making linux fans feel like they're hacking the gibson as they watch compile spam scroll past. this is still true with CFLAGS at default
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cinci zoo sniper posted:ibm vs oracle corporate legal fight is going to be like two enraged hippos if i was a lawyer for ibm i think i'd be tempted to call a face-to-face meeting early on and say "look, guys. we all know we're going to spend a decade accomplishing nothing here. you guys want to just meet up for drinks every month and have our interns print a few reams of bullshit a day to make it look like we're working? we're gonna get about as much done that way." if i was a lawyer for oracle i figure larry ellison would be calling me every two hours demanding an update.
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what's the ranking of linux from best linux to worst linux?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:what's the ranking of linux from best linux to worst linux? Best (Server): RHEL/CentOS Best (Desktop): Fedora Worst: Anything else.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:what's the ranking of linux from best linux to worst linux? ---- decent ---- RHEL centos ---- tolerable ---- debian ubuntu ---- trash ---- arch gentoo devuan ubuntu derivates fedora
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:---- decent ---- LOL.
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ratbert90 posted:Best (Server): where do android, buildroot and yocto fit in
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hobbesmaster posted:where do android, buildroot and yocto fit in BuildRoot and Yocto are embedded SDK's. Android is its own thing.
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they all are linux though
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people just hate that android is the most successful linux
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ratbert90 posted:Best (Server):
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hobbesmaster posted:they all are linux though BuildRoot and Yocto make you a Linux of your choosing that is usually very small. Android is Linux in the sense that it uses the Linux kernel, but everything else is custom (including init.) I could agree with this.
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hobbesmaster posted:people just hate that android is the most successful linux is it? nobody uses android by choice, and nobody makes money on it but samsung linux on servers and embedded devices are multi-billion dollar industries with vibrant ecosystems android is a fetid little hole in which google and samsung sit and fling feces at each other
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arch is fun as a hobbyist sort of thing. cant imagine running a production server w/it though
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:---- decent ---- it is a recurring problem in this thread that people, for some reason, think ubuntu is a tolerable situation. it is not. friends do not let friends use ubuntu. debian is a different story but nobody cares about debian so, here's a post from four years ago explaining in excrutiating detail why ubuntu is bad ok Notorious b.s.d. posted:The problem with Ubuntu isn't a matter of taste. It's not that I don't like Unity, or I have bad feelings about Shuttleworth, or that the logo doesn't agree with me. It's much more fundamental: The Ubuntu model for development is broken.
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android doesn’t ship a libc compatible with the Linux platform
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... but it runs on linux? are we all conflating linux with the wider gnu ecosystem again??
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Android, is in fact, Android/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Android plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Android system made useful by the Google corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
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el dorito posted:... but it runs on linux? I mean, you can't run linux programs on android or android programs on linux, so.... ?
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:---- decent ---- nice meltdown
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pseudorandom name posted:I mean, you can't run linux programs on android or android programs on linux, so.... ? you can run android programs on linux, but you generally cannot run linux programs on android
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there are also a few idiots who claim musl is Linux but they're not fooling anybody
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you can run android programs on linux, but you generally cannot run linux programs on android you can run android programs on linux the same way you can run windows programs on linux Windows is more of a Linux than Android ever will be
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pseudorandom name posted:I mean, you can't run linux programs on android or android programs on linux, so.... ? is uclinux linux?
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i have a 486 running gentoo with systemd built with a musl toolchain at home
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Tankakern posted:i have a 486 running gentoo with systemd built with a musl toolchain at home math coprocessor?
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pseudorandom name posted:I mean, you can't run linux programs on android or android programs on linux, so.... ? A statically linked executable that is built on a modern gnu/linux should run just fine in android if the architecture is the same. I imagine that the reverse should be true. They are both using the same Linux ABI which Linus really really doesn’t want to break. Yes, this is splitting hairs, but this is yospos so...
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just tested with a small C program so, yes, it does work
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ratbert90 posted:math coprocessor? yep, i upgraded the stock sx to a 66 mhz 486dx2 
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Tankakern posted:yep, i upgraded the stock sx to a 66 mhz 486dx2 Get an overclock chip and bump that baby up to 133Mhz 
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ratbert90 posted:Get an overclock chip and bump that baby up to 133Mhz if i did that it might be able to play an mp3, i'm not sure i'm ready for such a commitment yet...
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it is a recurring problem in this thread that people, for some reason, think ubuntu is a tolerable situation. it is not. friends do not let friends use ubuntu. ok I don’t think anything at work actually uses distro packages though. it’s self-packaged ruby debs and other awful poo poo so we’d have to get better for what you said to make a difference
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:ok if you have universe and multiverse disabled, you are doing it right
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ratbert90 posted:Gentoo is indeed trash. I tried in in a VM recently and it hasn't changed much in the last 15 years. thats because you probably spent 15 yrs compiling it
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