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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:unwinding after a long day by reading email reports about my scheduled computer tasks Nothing beats a glass of scotch and 30 emails about successful cron job completions after a long day at the office.
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dunno if it's unclear but cron doesn't bother e-mailing you if there's no output this is why a lot of utilities have a quiet mode that don't write anything out unless there's a problem
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sb hermit posted:dunno if it's unclear but cron doesn't bother e-mailing you if there's no output that is actually kinda worse? no output is good output only when your output delivery mechanism is reliable. handling email on servers that aren't primarily mail servers means your output goes through a rube goldberg contraption for delivery. is the mail daemon running? is it configured to relay to a smarthost? is that smarthost blacklisted? it my mail service accepting mail right now? is my mail service accessible? is my mail service marking the rare messages from cron as spam? instead of worrying about configuring a mailer on every machine you control, how about shipping your job output -- both positive *and* negative -- to your log management/monitoring service. then you can be relatively confident your jobs are actually running, and the reason you aren't being notified otherwise isn't because you busted the mail daemon config on your non-mail server
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Routing mail from nullmailer to a real MTA is a problem that is embarassingly trivial.
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nudgenudgetilt posted:that is actually kinda worse? Those are all good points. There are many many ways to configure (and periodically test) an e-mail system to make sure mail gets delivered (including whitelisting hosts, whitelisting domains, forcing a username/password login over ssl to deliver mail, etc) which would take many pages and does not address the fact that some vocal users abhor e-mail. Piping logs to syslog (using logger or whatever) is undoubtedly a better way of doing it as long as your logs are also looked at. Ultimately, linux gives you a million and one ways to shoot yourself in the foot. And each solution is wrong.
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how compatible is opensuse with proprietary printer drivers? thinking i might install it whenever i can afford to build a desktop
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euroshopper posted:how compatible is opensuse with proprietary printer drivers? [whispering]oh nooooooooooooooo[/whispering]
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euroshopper posted:how compatible is opensuse with proprietary printer drivers? lol just use CUPS from apple, inc. and ghostscript also lol if your printer doesn't support or emulate postscript
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Antigravitas posted:[whispering]oh nooooooooooooooo[/whispering] haha
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Beeftweeter posted:lol i don't own any printers yet besides a spare wireless one for my macbook but ive been aware for a while that printer support can be sketchy depending on distro
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Beeftweeter posted:also lol if your printer doesn't support or emulate postscript modern printers support URF and PWG and maybe PCLm, PDF, or JPEG
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new printers doesn't need drivers at all. printer drivers are considered deprecated now, and the package cups-filters has been moved from apple to openprinting.org. openprinting has a nice article explaining the new ~driverless future~ https://openprinting.github.io/driverless/
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proprietary printer drivers are often some random .sh spewing binaries everywhere, so you'll have to janitor that no matter what distro you choose
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pseudorandom name posted:modern printers support URF and PWG and maybe PCLm, PDF, or JPEG PDF is a subset of postscript, but most of the (laser) printers i've had at least emulate it, brother's version is called BRScript3. my latest lexmark has a legit ps interpreter though
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Why would you own a printer just go to the library
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euroshopper posted:how compatible is opensuse with proprietary printer drivers? i've had no issues with brother + tumbleweed.
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Beeftweeter posted:PDF is a subset of postscript, but most of the (laser) printers i've had at least emulate it, brother's version is called BRScript3. my latest lexmark has a legit ps interpreter though and PCLm is a subset of PDF nobody cares
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Mr. Crow posted:Why would you own a printer just go to the library
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i caved and bought a laser printer becausr the local library was shut for ages due to the pandemic
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You can usually print at UPS or FedEx too, or your local postal annex. I have to print like 3 things a year, used do it at work before full time remote, totally not worth a $300 printer and paying for a new ink cartridge basically every time I'd have to print because somehow they dry up in like 48 hours
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pseudorandom name posted:and PCLm is a subset of PDF huh, interesting, it's some streamable thing from the wifi alliance. i didn't know about that and just assumed it was related to old-school PCL so i guess... i cared?
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Mr. Crow posted:Why would you own a printer just go to the library <taps the global worldfucking pandemic sign once again>
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Mr. Crow posted:You can usually print at UPS or FedEx too, or your local postal annex. I have to print like 3 things a year, used do it at work before full time remote, totally not worth a $300 printer and paying for a new ink cartridge basically every time I'd have to print because somehow they dry up in like 48 hours think you got some wires crossed here, everyone recommends a $300 laser because the $60 loss leader inkjets all dry out between printing as you say. it's not a problem with a laser printer.
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op if your computer is connected to the internet it should fetch the proper drivers from windows update when you plug it in
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:op if your computer is connected to the internet it should fetch the proper drivers from windows update when you plug it in wine supports driverless printing via cups, op. sounds like your windows is broken if you need drivers
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$60 used brother laser from the electronics recycling store going strong after 5 years without even replacing the toner cartridge it came with supremacy. raspberry pi print server makes it an airprint target and I often find myself printing from my iPhone instead of trying to figure out why windows forgot it this time
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Finally I can stop using find. Throw it on the pile with cron
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Mr. Crow posted:Finally I can stop using find. Throw it on the pile with cron how dare you. i use a combination of find and cat in cron to email my current finger to my blog and it works just fine. why does everyone keep trying to replace my amazing pipeline cribbed from a guy who died 10 years ago
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Mr. Crow posted:Finally I can stop using find. Throw it on the pile with cron of course it's written in rust
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nudgenudgetilt posted:how dare you. i use a combination of find and cat in cron to email my current finger to my butt and it works just fine.
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i challenge anyone to spend a minute considering the fragment of find they know, the fragment they know exists but they can't remember, and then imagining the fragment that surely exists but you've never even heard of, and then to post claiming that this is a fine and good tool that does not need replacement.
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i always mix up the {} \; order the first time i run a find with exec.
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Kazinsal posted:of course it's written in rust
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Kazinsal posted:of course it's written in rust
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r/commandline is absolutely filthy with all these 'replacement for find/sed/grep' hobbyprojects and theyre always written in some dogshit language and all the flags are incompatible but somebody posts some `time` output that says its 0.002 seconds faster in this one cherry picked operation but you have to spend 7 hours retooling any scripts using the old tools and ugh gently caress this i'm just sticking with what i have
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i simply use find and pipe into egrep or sed anyway so this is a big improvement for me
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Jonny 290 posted:r/commandline is absolutely filthy with all these 'replacement for find/sed/grep' hobbyprojects and theyre always written in some dogshit language and all the flags are incompatible but somebody posts some `time` output that says its 0.002 seconds faster in this one cherry picked operation but you have to spend 7 hours retooling any scripts using the old tools and ugh gently caress this i'm just sticking with what i have it’s a drop in replacement! (that requires you to feed it a bunch of esoteric flags to hopefully maintain compatibility in the best case)
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decided i will probably install manjaro for my work pc because it seems to be maintained fairly well despite what ive been warned abt there are hundreds of videos complaining abt how unfriendly some of the community managers are, so that's what took me a while to research further
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