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Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma
Lipstick Apathy
i'm doing dumb stuff like nested virt and gpu passthrough on amd with proxmox
the amount of troubleshooting required is stupid, my /proc/cmdline is a mile long and had to downgrade my bios to stop to stop a segfault that happens after 24 hours and a kernel bug that happened after a random amount of time

windows passes though but the driver crashes every few seconds, linux works fine
esxi 8 doesn't work but esxi 7 does, but at least that's known issue

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VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

Sapozhnik posted:

Out of curiosity, why do you use Borg Backup? It requires a backup target that can accept SSH connections and run your backup tool's code, which is comparatively quite expensive. There are other backup tools that work with business-oriented and consumer-oriented object storage services instead.

Because has worked mostly fine for over a decade now, and I am not installing an object storage stack on my home nas to update a working system.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
Fair.

I assume most people want some sort of off-site backup but tbf the most likely scenario where you might need to restore from backup is an SSD failure on your main computer, and if your house burns down and takes out your on-site backup then you've probably got bigger problems then losing your anime collection or w/e.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I let all my stuff backup to my NAS via borgmatic, then sync the whole dataset offsite. (zfs go brrr)

It's a great system especially with limited bandwidth upstream. Borg deduplicates across all backups, so the dataset is quite small, and incremental zfs send/receive is extremely efficient.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
Then you need a 24/7 application VM connected to a few TB of block storage to run ZFS on the other end as opposed to a gdrive or S3 bucket or whatever

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
It's my old NAS at my mother's place sitting in a basement, actually.

It costs about a fifth of the alternatives.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
I use backintime which uses rsync. It's worked fine for years and hasn't given me any trouble. :3:

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
stupid issue I'm having is all my windows keep opening at like 120% resolution and it's making game windows render invisible... it's all solvable with 2 seconds of resizing the window but it's annoying to try and research. Im just whining mostly

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

Iíve been complaining about this in the computer problems thread but I am trying to rehab a lovely laptop and itís been extremely difficult trying to install windows on a new ssd (havenít succeeded yet) but fedora installed without a single hitch. good job Linux

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

here's a fun wayland .. feature? bug? that are sure to bite you when your email client is indexing something

Blocked clients that received too many events get destroyed even though the Wayland connection is not broken

hope they figure something out soon, that report is three years old. it's a type of bug that makes it seem like there's some hardware error with your computer

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Tankakern posted:

here's a fun wayland .. feature? bug? that are sure to bite you when your email client is indexing something

Blocked clients that received too many events get destroyed even though the Wayland connection is not broken

hope they figure something out soon, that report is three years old. it's a type of bug that makes it seem like there's some hardware error with your computer

this happens to me more than it should and it blows every single time

nudgenudgetilt
Mar 18, 2003

blocking in wayland is probably my only real complaint about it so far

if i max out my disk io, the gui shouldn't stutter

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face
on a chromebook with some emmc storage it happens a lot

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Tankakern posted:

here's a fun wayland .. feature? bug? that are sure to bite you when your email client is indexing something

Blocked clients that received too many events get destroyed even though the Wayland connection is not broken

hope they figure something out soon, that report is three years old. it's a type of bug that makes it seem like there's some hardware error with your computer

Oh, so that's what's happening when Thunderbird and gpodder suddenly die unless started using xwayland.

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

oh well some positive news too then

Fedora IPU6 camera support now available in rpmfusion-nonfree

good news if you have a new dell xps 13

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
just use mgr or suntools

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

at least there's a workaround for that wayland issue if you can be bothered to patch it yourself

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/wayland/-/commit/259b565eb1691203efdf828723f01aff8b3338ea

i guess this is where gentoo shines, trivially easy to apply a patch for a system package

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

nice to see Linus' reverse-heel turn into a good human continue:

https://social.kernel.org/objects/60bcac97-e7c7-4899-a1b6-bb72196cddaf

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

yep. though that looks a lot like arguing with randoms on twitter, do it might not last.

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

NVIDIA 545 Linux Driver To Support Vulkan Apps With PRIME On Wayland

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

lol

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
Incredible. I just tested it, and yup. All this chromium garbage runs in xwayland, everyhing else in wayland, and xeyes confirms it.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



What sort of Xorg-related dependencies are being pulled in that it defaults to Xwayland?

On FreeBSD, the only Xorg related thing I have installed is xorgproto and some libraries for fonts and generic stuff like libxft and libX11, and C bindings via xcb.

mycophobia
May 7, 2008

you could use xprop rear end well.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

mycophobia posted:

you could use xprop rear end well.

or start it with the WAYLAND_DEBUG=1 envvar set, and if it's native, you will see a bunch of debug spew in the console

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


lol

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe

Remote contractors on my current project posted:

code:
...
BUILD_DIR=$ROOT_DIR/build/$VARIANT
echo "BUILD_DIR is $BUILD_DIR"
CONAN_LOG=$BUILD_DIR/conan_log.txt
mkdir -p $BUILD_DIR
PRJ_ENV_EXPORT="project.env"
echo -e "\n=============================" 2>&1 >$CONAN_LOG
echo "=   conan install lock    =" 2>&1 >$CONAN_LOG
echo "=============================" 2>&1 >$CONAN_LOG
echo "-- Start lockfile install--"
...

Just some very good, highest quality use of output redirection - courtesy of whoever wrote this build script that I inherited

Poopernickel fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jun 21, 2023

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
It's beautiful :allears:

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
I donít understand why RMS didnít just reimplement ITS targeting the 68000 and spread it far and wide instead of announcing his intent to recreate UNIX

heck he couldíve gotten a grant to do ITS-68K and distribute it under very open terms

or a NuMachine (68K) port of the CADR system circa 1980, that wouldíve been far worse for Symbolics than spending all that time stealing their code and giving it to LMI

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


eschaton posted:

I donít understand why RMS didnít just reimplement ITS targeting the 68000 and spread it far and wide instead of announcing his intent to recreate UNIX

heck he couldíve gotten a grant to do ITS-68K and distribute it under very open terms

or a NuMachine (68K) port of the CADR system circa 1980, that wouldíve been far worse for Symbolics than spending all that time stealing their code and giving it to LMI

rms is and always has been the kind of dipshit who wanted to get people to follow him and his ideology for software development and open source or whatever as a side gig. dude wasn't an MIT student originally, he was a harvard student who managed to con his way into an office in the AI Labs that he ended up sleeping on the floor of and decided to switch over to MIT because that was a thing you could do in the late 70s

he wanted to be a LISP wizard but the whole LISP environment didn't go beyond academia so in order to try to rope in people outside the AI Labs he had to come up with basically cult philosophy to recreate unix (the dominant systems environment of the 70s in academia)

reimplementing ITS wouldn't have brought in other people who would go "yeah man free software copyleft gently caress the patent office". Gnu's Not Unix is enough wankery with obvious influences to bring in the hippie dudes who heard of bell labs as the premier institute for getting fried and coming up with new innovations in operating systems while also being counterculture enough to be like "gently caress da man"

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

alright going to install a new distro on my linux desktop, any recommendations?

it has arch now and i didn't enjoy the arch experience. right now the packages/dependencies on mine are wonky and i can't figure out how to update poo poo.

i mostly just want something i can install and just ignore for a long time basically. so something stable and secure, gets good updates, and not too fiddly like arch. also preferably not ubuntu.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Fedora Desktop or Fedora Silverblue.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


rip centos

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

since theyre slowing down rh/centos dev, anyone use rocky for desktop linux yet?

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

The game has only just b̶̰̤͛̆e̶͔̎̕g̸͉͋u̷̮̍ń̶̹
install gentoo

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016

Silver Alicorn posted:

install gentoo

this, frankly. no half measures

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Nitrousoxide posted:

Fedora Desktop or Fedora Silverblue.

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

Nitrousoxide posted:

Fedora Desktop or Fedora Silverblue.

or

Silver Alicorn posted:

install gentoo

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

you dont think fedora dev is gonna slow cause of the rh changes?

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Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Silver Alicorn posted:

install gentoo

looking into it.

Edit: what does ./configure mean

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