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Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
i'm curious. are there any unfixable design flaws or things that could be better in the linux kernel?

i'm not talking vague stuff like 3rd party drivers or whatev i am talking about specific things e.g. if the design of threads prevents better memory sharing or whatev

basically. if you went back in time and also became linus what are the changes you would make?

e: asssuming u have todays tech and languages

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Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
this thread is good and informative thanks all :)

colbylol posted:

a linux is garbage hth

as opposed to....?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

theadder posted:

osx given by steves (pbuh) own hand

*said in geese from fatal fury voice*
PREDICTABO

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
i have a thinkpad with an NVidia Quadro K2000M and intel integrated graphics. under windows the laptop uses NVidia Optimus to switch between video cards based on demand (e.g. run games with nvidia and firefox with intel)


does linux support that yet? i know about bumblebee but the last time i tried to install it i had to compile stuff and download stuff and didn't know wtf was going on basically it didn't work

disabling either intel or nvidia is not an option: i need intel for low power consumption and nvidia for the vga port

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
do modern distros still call the admin group wheel group?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Suspicious Dish posted:

FYI, here's the computers we're building. They run Linux.




I'm at the office today while nobody else is because it's a nice place to chill that has p. good Wi-Fi while I'm in between hunting for apartments in SF. Sorry for the crummy camera pics.

I like what yo uare doing

the MISSION boxes look real pretty and remind me of this


(i could've sworn those radios were made by General)

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
when's gnome gonna get a proper file open dialog?

the dialog on windows and kde is perfect, cuz its just the file explorer in a smaller scale. why does gnome have that combo box and a hidden and foreign looking file list instead of a small familiar file explorer hmmm?

what i amsaying is gtk file open dialog must die die die

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

pseudorandom name posted:

spring loaded folders

how skeuomorphic!!

seriously tho what does it mean?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
does GNOME have an analogue to KParts?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Suspicious Dish posted:

Not anymore, thank god.

tell me teh horrors :allears:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

was expecting goatse while scrolling down. left disappointed ~sigh

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Soricidus posted:

like most desktop related changes, the removal of the useful x server termination shortcut was imposed for the alleged benefit of people who will never use linux, and caused nothing but inconvenience to the people who actually do use it every day. apparently this is progress.

:geno::"these lovely programs are hanging up my x server"
:reject::"then kill the x server"
:geno::"ugh... i have to do this all the time. can u fix it?"
:reject::"here i made u a shortcut to kill the x server"
[the lovely programs continue to be lovely]

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
apparently they want us to pronounce it g'nome (with a hard g)
http://www.gnome.org/news/2014/09/gnome-3-14-released/

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

buy a linux laptop

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Zombywuf posted:

Yeah, I'm going to get paid to productively convert all our loving infrastructure to systemd instead of useful loving work.

Seriously, gently caress systemd.

i thought systemd is backwards compatible??

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

a desktop environment is just a window manager with an unusual ipc mechanism nobody uses

cde: tooltalk
gnome: dbus
kde: dcop
e17: eet
xfce: rocks thrown at your window

enlightenment is so cool they used it for refridgerators

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
does linux support swap/hibernate files yet?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
if what bsd is saying is true then how does swap/suspend/hibernate work on os x?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
sorry i meant to ask : can os x produce kernel dumps? is the regular os x's kernel debuggable?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
am i the only one who finds env variables confusing, intimidating, and disgusting? i just dont like loving around with stuff that affect random processes randomly and i feel that poo poo should be in a config file. build systems are the loving worst in this regard.

was there ever any env-free os? or at least env-free build system?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Suspicious Dish posted:

Fedora's release cycle was always supposed to be one month after GNOME release. Unfortunately, Anaconda hosed that up. Anaconda keeps getting worse, and even now, with two release cycles skipped to make way for the incredible, mind-bending change of "some different packages are installed by default", Fedora 21 is still blocked by Anaconda.

I don't know what happened with Anaconda or Fedora 21.

I thought Anaconda was their OS installer. what else does it do?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Smythe posted:

it would be cool if u could game good on linux but i tried and got bad fps and also it looked bad like low settings when on windows i get uber fps and max settings (talking baout DOTA here)

Dick Orifice Torn Apart

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
Dead Of The Aids

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
more like cloacated kernel

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
i like declarative nonturingcomplete service config. it helps that its readable and short

never had to cj lunix tho

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
i hate the black fade gradient applied to application icons on the gnome 3 panel. it looks like poo poo.
the panel doesn't show more than one app so why not give the icon its own space and push the app title to the side? or at least fade the whole icon uniformly?

is there any way to disable it?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
does the free version of vmware still have the baby blue theme?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Captain Pike posted:

Btrfs is pronounced "Butterface"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs






linux
no. its pronounced buttruffs

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Mr Dog posted:

so i have to ask

whose bright idea was it to put a javascript interpreter into the security policy server

where is this?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
can you minimi^W temporarily dismiss windows in gnome 3?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Suspicious Dish posted:

Super+H

The "H" is for "hide".

thanks

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
anybody got any experience making web scrapers in linux?
i got a scraper made with c#+awesomium (ugh at the name) and i want to make port it to headless, gui-less linux. i want a browser engine but i don't want to install xserver, wayland, qt, or gtk. i just want dynamic html+js and they don't even need to render. the site i am scraping is doing some crazy ajax gymnastics with obfuscated js so doing the requests by hand is way too much effort.

any ideas?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

thanks. but isn't that a one-time parser?

the pages i am scraping have tickers, marquees, things that pop up and hide, etc. web 2.0 as gently caress. the way i am currently scraping is by injecting some js on the site that calls a callback in my code when things change. that's why i am currently using a chromium shell (awesomium).

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
i am not gonna reverse engineer the logic of a f'ed up piece of early 2000s best engineering practices thank you very much. it has at least three different frameworks running and none of them is easy to reason about. it will take me months to go anywhere with this.

but yeah, i am looking for a full browser engine that will run without having a whole gui running on the linux box. apparently phantomjs can do that despite what some snackoverflow user said (outdated answers :argh:).

i am gonna try that when i go home. thanks ppl.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Soricidus posted:

virtualbox is bad, don't use it

it does video. audio. and networking just fine. it also has clipboard sharing. variable screen resolution. and folder sharing.

what's so bad about it :confused:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
why are you upgrading the host so dang much?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Palace of Hate posted:

kvm+qemu, why would you use an oracle product you could avoid using

can this run on windows? how do you set it up?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

keyvin posted:

Two days left guys, can Linux pull this one out of its rear end?

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Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Soricidus posted:

if you didn't have to compile your own kernel it's not a real linux

that was a joke

i would never claim android is linux, a good os, or a finished product.

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