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i've been using linux happily for years, sorry if ur not smart enough
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2025 17:15 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i found cde to be pretty OK to use, too switching from cde to gnome is what killed solaris imo
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Boner Slam posted:Is there a good desktop environment for linux yet? Last time i checked they all looked like crap. serioustalk: fvwm2 is really good. you'd hate it though because you care more about how things look than how they function.
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Suspicious Dish posted:Also, Lennart is on a secret new project at Red Hat where he has free reign of everything. I don't know what it is. lennux is going to have a microkernel architecture that uses dbus for all ipc
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raruler posted:you're not even advocating the use of the real spergatroid WMs then again i also mourn the death of cde so probably you should ignore all my opinions unless you, too, are old and bitter
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:https://github.com/idunham/cdesktop/blob/master/cde/historical/OPENBUGS
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Shaggar posted:im not using either, but Silverlight will continue to work for decades and winrt is still the future of windows.
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Boner Slam posted:- The poo poo you need to go through to add an icon to the activities menu shows that Linux will never be a desktop OS. Well you can install this app of course, but out of the box it's either "don't do it" or "try a lot of console poo poo"
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Suspicious Dish posted:I wanted them to allow users to install things at their own legal risk. This is what other distributions like Debian do.
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agreed, but that doesn't contradict anything i said
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ksh is a thing among refugees from solaris too. i know a couple of graybeards who still use csh, god only knows why.
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i didn't know david korn had a beard
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wish you'd systematically remove your posting from as many threads as possible
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i miss rsh, it was so much faster than ssh
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Captain Foo posted:Error rate of Linux on the desktop is 100%
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I installed Debian on an older laptop yesterday. The Debian installer is pretty bad.
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Personally i think the real problem is that the desktop is not ready for linux.
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interactive terminals were deprecated in the last release and have now been removed. please feed your 50 lines of commands into systemd-shelld.
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i'm using desktop linux right now and it's pretty sweet.
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don't use fedora, like its namesake it is a bad thing for bad people. broadcom wifi works just fine on debian with zero hassle.
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infernal machines posted:you're actually advocating using vanilla debian for something that's meant to be minimal effort oob?
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infernal machines posted:congrats on having to use $SIMPLE_FIX to fix something that should have worked oob. $YOUR_OS almost doesn't suck in really specific edge cases
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isn't it still called xfree86 where you're from? also a word of advice, stay out of the world trade center on the 11th, you'll thank me later
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Breakfast All Day posted:why are the linuxers so mad about systemd having binary journaling. are there people who like to hack their journals with vim or some poo poo also we're used to just hitting up a file with grep or tail like everything else, and now we have to learn a bullshit special snowflake command that's more than four letters long. also apparently it corrupts itself sometimes and poettering don't care
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Mr Dog posted:they rowed back on that stupid "spatial file manager" poo poo they can row back on this too but ... yeah, you had to have the whole os designed around it. you couldn't just bolt it onto an existing unix, already packed to the gills with deep folder hierarchies, and expect it to work.
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if you want to make a desktop app for linux then you should use java, so your app will also run on every other os without any porting or even recompiling.
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BobHoward posted:(i have to run linux on the desktop at work. the only thing worse than native linux software is java software)
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BobHoward posted:u dont understand
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Cocoa Crispies posted:yeah normal ones are like big cats that are fuckin' cool or or like a fuzzy yellow dog that wants you to search
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ShadowHawk posted:that's the super key
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Cocoa Crispies posted:yeah "escape meta alt control shift" doesn't make sense if meta and alt are the same button (and he will ignore me because I didn't say gnu/linux)
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java.util.regex is particularly bad, i've had to rewrite some fairly simple, perfectly valid not-actually-regular expressions to work around bugs in it the same goes for python's re module basically never try to do interesting things with not-actually-regular expressions because you're going to get hosed over one way or another, be it by a lovely library or your own lovely code. use a real parser or something idk
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Sudo Echo posted:counterpoint: CDE
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time to establish some indisputable facts itt: tcl/tk is good. emacs is good and also more user-friendly than poo poo like eclipse. and cde, while deeply flawed and abandoned shortly after birth, was still better in many ways than os x, ms windows, gnome, or kde are today. this is yospos so i'm sure someone will ironically pretend to disagree with the above, but we all know it's true.
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Forums Terrorist posted:same, he's like the crazy old guy at the bus stop of yospos
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ShadowHawk posted:for real though I don't think I've ever heard anyone other than an Apple fanboy reference the "certified unix!" thing as though it mattered
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like most desktop related changes, the removal of the useful x server termination shortcut was imposed for the alleged benefit of people who will never use linux, and caused nothing but inconvenience to the people who actually do use it every day. apparently this is progress.
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bobbilljim posted:REISUB is pretty cool too does that still work
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I'm going to have to try gnome 3 one day, ignorant prejudice has served me well so far but I feel like I'm approaching the limit of what it has to offer
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2025 17:15 |
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Zombywuf posted:Oh man, Lennart's updated the bug: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64116 what he actually says there is that they perform whatever recovery is possible every time you read the corrupted file. they just don't write the recovered data back to the file, so the corruption isn't "fixed". I hate lennart and all his foul works as much as any angry graybeard who thinks Unix reached perfection decades ago and everything since has been a regression, but even so, this doesn't sound too unreasonable.
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