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Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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bobbilljim posted:

i miss ctrl alt backspace

but i havent needed it.

bascially

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Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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pram posted:

its actually loving terrible

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Suspicious Dish posted:

The joke is that you bought AMD.

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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i use a tiling wm and it owns, please don't use a gnome 3

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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dwm supremacy

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Optimus_Rhyme posted:

The os is free. Unlike your machine for which you paid the Microsoft tax so you could install Linux.

what slashdot comment is this from

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Last Chance posted:

everyone has useless hobbies like installing hobbyist unfinished OSs onto their machines

i wouldn't say apple is useless

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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maybe os x will get a real file system someday then

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Feb 19, 2011

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BobHoward posted:

a linux with 4 gibbibytes of rams will swap quite a bit if you just open tabs in firefox

works on my machine

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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congratulate him on installing the best os on the best laptop

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Feb 19, 2011

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keyvin posted:

My programmer/engineer friend said I should install arch

lmao

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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i like systemd because anything that makes me less likely to look at bash scripts is good

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Feb 19, 2011

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pram posted:

bash is loving terrible and i hate people who use it and then dump their unmaintainable horseshit all over u like a giant ethereal anus

pram posted:

gently caress perl too

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Gazpacho posted:

it's more that scripts create subprocesses for literally everything

i don't understand why bash still does this

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Gazpacho posted:

Because it is a command shell

i mean poo poo like command substitution causing bash to fork even for a builtin

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Greed is eternal posted:

btw nerds, should I be using KDE or GNOME nowadays?

dwm

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Soricidus posted:

i recommend you build your own desktop environment by picking a good window manager like fvwm2 or openbox and then adding things like a panel and applets to taste (xfce's panel is quite good). tie it all together with a simple ~/.xinitrc and you're set!

:agreed:

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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it took me 15 minutes to configure xsession for my snowflake wm, i don't use bad linuxes though

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Feb 19, 2011

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oval office AND PASTE posted:

gnome 3 is seriously the only desktop worth talking about, everything else is stale terrible kitchen-sink garbage (KDE), or a lovely and unnecessary fork of gnome 3

nah

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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a window manager needs to manage your windows, not eat all your memory and give you a ui that's lovely for the same reason metro is

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Feb 19, 2011

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i need to start an application, let me load up a screen full of gigantic icons that take five minutes to scroll through because everyone uses tablets anyway right --designers of metro, os x lion, and gnome 3

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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i agree, ignore the gnome shell as much as possible

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Feb 19, 2011

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what's wrong with xmodmap, i just use it for os x scrolling

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Feb 19, 2011

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lmao compiz

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Sniep posted:

holy poo poo gnome is coming out with their own OS? link?

glib probably has a kernel somewhere in there

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Feb 19, 2011

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Shaggar posted:

lol macs are so bad you have to reinstall the os when you get it

i too love my computers preinstalled with Windows System Cleaner 2015

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Feb 19, 2011

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keyvin posted:

If you run Linux on a desktop and aren't in the third world: Why? Is it to pretend that it is still 1985?

it's the best desktop os

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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i'm gonna post results later

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k-zed posted:

systemd developers and supporters are trying (and unfortunately mostly succeeding) to make systemd an unavoidable dependency of running a linux system, through for example encouraging the practice of daemons talking to systemd directly via proprietary systemd interfaces (therefore making them unportable). this is absolutely unacceptable.

it's foss, anyone writing their own init daemon could duplicate them

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Feb 19, 2011

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oval office AND PASTE posted:

someone please go take a good hard look at gedit 3.14. it's not perfect (plugins lol) but it gets some things really right

  • opens up looking like a reduced notepad.exe
  • there's no File|Edit|View menus with 10 things each to click on/scare grandmas
  • all the extra functionality is exposed in the prefs window

you probably just went from the world's sparsest notepad clone to a needs-meeting sublime text-level editor. syntax coloring and themes, line numbering, code collapsing, autocompletion, documenation reference, integrated interpreter..

so it is totally possible to design desktop apps that look incredibly simple and non-threatening, but still have really great and deep feature sets that you reveal only when someone actually goes looking for it. and its not even that clever about it.

my gedit is only 3.10 but it still chokes on large files that vim handles fine

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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to search through them in a quicker and easier way than a bunch of greps

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Feb 19, 2011

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too bad it still uses an obsolete file system

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Salt Fish posted:

Bruce Schnier and Poul-Henning Kamp are on my side and the NSA is on yours so I think perhaps I am right.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/a_new_free_ca.html

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Feb 19, 2011

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oval office AND PASTE posted:

so you really think there's absolutely no market for a free, user-friendly desktop? its beards or nothing?

all computers come with a free, user-friendly desktop, and tablets are killing laptops like laptops killed desktops

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Feb 19, 2011

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Zombywuf posted:

*ignores warning and continues anyway*

mitm chances on initial login are infinitesimal and if the fingerprint ever changes ssh refuses to connect

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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that's extremely relevant to the desktop linux thread tho

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pram posted:

try gogs, its a gitlab written in Gods own language Go

http://gogs.io/

cool

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Feb 19, 2011

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so like all golang things, including the language itself, they implemented the easiest 40% of the problem

what's wrong with go

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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what's docker useful for anyway

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Feb 19, 2011

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tbf go libraries can't really be used by other languages unless they changed a bunch in the runtime

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