Suspicious Dish posted:

I am not kidding when I say that this shaved 4 seconds of startup time on some of our computers at Endless. Rotary disks are loving slow, man.

Suspicious Dish posted:

Yes. What do you recommend we use instead? SSDs which would bump the base BOM price from $200 to $300 at least? eMMC / SD card storage, like the solution the $160 model uses?

eschaton posted:

and how much would a 500GB SSD add? that's what the $200 model includes. I think it just might increase the BoM a bit more than that.

Soricidus posted:

indeed, this device designed for people who do not have fast cheap permanent internet connections doesn't need storage because they can just rely on "the cloud" and "streaming"

Mr Dog posted:

other than that though, imagine apt and dpkg, except lightning fast. and instead of using apt-get for some thing, apt-cache for others, and dpkg for other poo poo you just use one command.

BobHoward posted:

it disqualified itself on a different level. no amount of turning 'desktop effects' off can make that ui design good

e: it has been like a decade or w/e since i last saw a kde, so the shock was considerable. i wasn't prepared

Mr Dog posted:

The distro you appear to be looking for is Arch, not Gentoo, btw.

There is a case to be made for not having an installer. Probably not that good a case, but a case nonetheless. The case being that you already have tools for partitioning your disk, installing software packages, and configuring a bootloader, so why create a second crippled set of tools you only ever use once.

ShadowHawk posted:

To respond to this from a while back:

I'd say I was doing it for the cause but that wouldn't square away with participation dropping through the floor once I had a job I liked.

Suspicious Dish posted:

maybe it will make sense when i say that "fedora is an operating system that you can install" was an extremely controversial statement inside the fedora community and red hat

akadajet posted:

pseudorandom name posted:

why do you even want xattrs in the initramfs?

Suspicious Dish posted:

also i should probably stop talking in this thread because i think at this point im officially done with linux and desktops and linux desktops

BobHoward posted:

it isn't necessary to encode bus/slot/etc garbage into a name to get this, linux inexplicably failed to copy or independently recreate the obvious solution apple has used since 2001

nics have a globally unique identifier built in, the mac addr. apple just uses it as an index into a configuration db. when the system discovers a nic it has never seen before it makes a db entry and assigns it a name (eg en0, en1 already exist in the db? ok new one is en2). bam consistent names regardless of boot discovery order and you can move your nic from one pcie slot to another without breaking loving everything

Mr Dog posted:

there is nothing wrong with bash in interactive use and it exists on virtually all linux systems whose command lines ever get interacted with

zsh is dumb bullshit for ricers who have nothing better to do with their time

now, if you find yourself writing a bash script, then don't. write a python script. the minute you find yourself looking up how to do a conditional in bash, stop. if you are looking up how to define a function in bash then it is already too late zalgotext zalgotext

spankmeister posted:

Bash has context aware autocomplete.

Tankakern posted:

sudo timedatectl set-local-rtc 1

VikingofRock posted:

"its" being the only possessive without an apostrophe is really stupid. Both the contraction for "it is" and the possessive of "it" should be "it's", and context can tell them apart. Whoever came up with that rule was a dingus

eschaton posted:

can't wait for someone to recompile their car with sysv init to avoid systemd

spankmeister posted:

17 years ago audio might have been an issue yes

James Baud posted:

I still can't get over how badly GNOME 2 got screwed up by people who thought anyone wanted their desktop experience to be touch friendly, or whatever they thought.

I can't even use MATE any more because they shifted to GTK3 and got things like:
- the abomination of a file chooser with brilliant design decision of dropping path completion from type-ahead search unless you prefixed everything with "./". And there's something else, but I've forgotten in the intervening year.
- gnome3-UI for gconf-editor, dconf-editor, or whatever, which recently went from just being gross window controls to "you used to like browsing for these settings you kinda know the feel of because you've been tweaking them every fresh install for fifteen years? screw you, we'll break browsing so you need to google for their locations".



(I actually was a pretty active GNOME contributor for a few years way back when.)