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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



lol if you use ibm linux

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



that may have been true, but you know it cannot stay that way with ibm at the helm. itís done. just move on.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



The_Franz posted:

move on to what? SUSE? lol

in the end RHEL is the only Linux that matters

Debian

incidentally , I tried to use gnome on Debian stable but my WiFi disconnects when I activate docker. this does not happen on mate or xfce. The answer is to avoid gnome , docker, and WiFi, but what is the why?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



I want to find a MacGuffin to integrate systemd with electron, glued together by python 2.7, and tie essential services to this infra. XML for config.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Bernie Sanders permanently damaged my GNOME

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



from the Arch Linux Facebook Community

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Private Speech posted:

have you tried using it as a desktop because the performance of that is a bit lacking

though I don't know how it stacks up against olpc and similar efforts

plus there's the ruggedness issue, along with a lack of screen and keyboard

I use a raspberry pi 4 running Ubuntu sometimes and itís fine, certainly way better in internet browsing than the pentium mmx I grew up with relative to that online era.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



i had to go back to arch because fedora breaks too often, debian is too old, and ubuntu is, well, ubuntu. i have pop! os running on one machine but i barely use it. what linux do you use?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Voodoo Cafe posted:

though it is needs suiting and what i use at home; honestly the most offputting thing about fedora is the name

evoking the worst m'lady-esque elements of the linux community is not a good naming convention. as if i wasn't already bringing enough shame to my family by publicly admitting to using a linux

I felt much more comfortable telling normal people I was using Arch Linux or Debian rather than Fedora. what a relief!

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



DoomTrainPhD posted:

You are talking to the guy who maintains a lot of the SELinux packages for Buildroot and has contributed to the main SELinux project for years. So please, do tell, how is SELinux security theater? :allears:

lol imagine being proud of Linux as anyone other than Axl Torvalds himself

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



they use gimp at the library system where I live and the name is upsetting to the library workers who have to use it without knowing the entire backstory of GNU, how lennart got us in this mess, etc. this is the kind of workplace where everyone has to participate in various cultural sensitivity trainings regularly, so I can see how it would be jarring.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



carry on then posted:

ok has there been any successful rust rewrites

like, anything at all?

ripgrep owns, fd is nice. xsv is useful but I donít think itís a rewrite of anything.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1382502870851936266?s=20

Theyíre already taking about replacing GNU user land with BSD. Itís funny that they somehow let FreeBSD languish as they pumped money into the Linux project, which they will turn into a worse BSD thatís like 20% proprietary binary blobs.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



xtal posted:

So a person who wrote a bunch of notoriously crap software and then sold out, got it. Let me follow them now.

The guy that made YOS a POS

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



so is this gonna be like wayland but for sound?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Tankakern posted:

osk straight up does not work in xorg either. if you open up e.g. firefox and the osk pops out over, firefox will steal all touch inputs, even if the osk is overlayed.

i thought gnome was supposed to be touch focused

fedora is more likely to gently caress your poo poo up several times a year than arch is. lmao.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Sapozhnik posted:

idk i haven't really had any such problems despite having gone out of my way to break things with prerelease software


a good policy imo because most non-text-based UIs these days are electron poo poo

I made the mistake of trying to use fedora on my only computer at the time because I thought it would be more reliable than arch, which was doing some annoying thing about printing. turns out systemd-resolved doesnít play nice with f5vpn, which I had to use for work. you also have to edit configuration files to point to URLs for older versions because a lot of the software is packaged not for whatever version you have installed but something like three versions earlier. and then they just keep changing poo poo every six months in a way you have no control over. LENNART!

anyway. electron people are like ďthis is a godsend for productivity. hereís my implementation of dd. if you donít like it you probably have some growing up to do.Ē

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



just send it SIGINFO, bing bong so simple since FreeBSD 1.0 in 1991, probably even decades earlier

https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=dd&apropos=0&sektion=1&manpath=FreeBSD+1.0-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html posted:

If dd receives a SIGINFO (see the ``status'' argument for stty(1)) signal, the current input and output block counts will be written to standard error in the same format as the standard completion message. If dd receives a SIGINT signal, the current input and output block counts will be written to standard error in the same format as the standard completion message and dd will exit.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Gentle Autist posted:

i have two electron apps open at all times, vscode and slack, and they are solid as a rock while outlook, ppt, excel poo poo the bed regularly

electron: more stable than office apps. canít wait to make a login manager, terminal, panel, calculator dependent on it!!!

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



do electron apps besides custom compiles or cutting edge versions even support wayland, the best software of all time?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Iím glad musl exists because it means I can compile things that run on Debian 9 and other older platforms without begging an admin

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



lol if youíre not paying money every month for the ultimate electron app, mighty, to stream your tabs from the internet instead of your ram

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



eschaton posted:

because the styling shouldnít be something done by an app developer, it should be done by the operating system for all apps so theyíre consistent

lol

https://stopthemingmy.app

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



theyíre all dogshit gnome apps nobody has ever heard of except Geary, which probably sucks.

quote:


Signed,

Alexander Mikhaylenko Maintainer of Games
Avi Wadhwa Maintainer of Organizer
Bilal Elmoussaoui Maintainer of Authenticator, Icon Library, Contrast and Obfuscate
Cťdric Bellegarde Maintainer of Lollypop, Eolie, and Passbook
Christopher Davis Core contributor to Fractal
Daniel GarcŪa Moreno Maintainer of Fractal and Timetrack
Falk Alexander Seidl Maintainer of Password Safe
Felix Hšcker, Maintainer of Gradio/Shortwave, Fragments, and Remotely
Jan Lukas Gernert Author of FeedReader and NewsFlash
Jordan Petridis Maintainer of Podcasts
Julian Sparber Core contributor to Fractal, maintainer of Teleport
Manuel Genovťs Maintainer of UberWriter
Michael Gratton Maintainer of Geary
Tobias Bernard Designer of Fragments and Podcasts (among others)
Zander Brown Maintainer of Icon Preview
The Pitivi Developers

theyíre probably all Europeans :tipshat:

mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Aug 26, 2021

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Agile Vector posted:

elementary my dear doxxin'

posting a public legal document in question is of course not doxxing, it's also the top result for 'elementary llc trademark' on google right now so lol

doxxed by the USPTO :argh:

he went to the qcs school of internet discourse, so itís an understandable yet unforgivable error with regard to knowing what doxxing is.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



I like old computer themes because I can see what Iím doing using metaphors Iíve known my whole life. I hate hamburger menus so drat much.


https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



itís kind of a hassle to get these themes working on HDPI, especially if youíre trying to use multiple monitors with different resolutions (and the pixel graphics scale horribly).

I have an rpi attached to a 1080p monitor with no scaling and itís really chill to use. also, because web browsers only support a few tabs before slowing down, I get less distracted and can focus on some real computer poo poo, like configuring Xresources. its the closest Iíve been able to get to the time I really liked computers.


Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

tfw when linuxers unironically defend using vim in 2021 while also complaining that windows 10 is too hard to understand

Iím embarrassed to say this but Iíve mained BSD and Linux for more than 20 years and never had any reason to use an editor that wasnít nano or a graphical one (scite, later sublime). I knew how to delete lines and insert them in standard vi (nvi on bsd iirc) in order to configure FreeBSD but it took me until this year to learn vim, which has been pretty useful to know in my day job where Iíd just use nano (or copy a binary of micro over scp).

mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Sep 15, 2021

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



lmao @ JavaScript anywheee

also does the new sublime kind of suck or what? AUR helpfully upgraded me to v4, which I have not bought a license for, and I really donít think itís worth the money if youíve already got 3. it seems buggy and starts slower, which is not what I want my general scrawlspace/personal pastebin.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



lmao

quote:

The whole idea is retarded. The word blacklist never had anything to do with race, and just because some people are dumb enough to be offended by it doesn't mean those people get to demand from other people to change the way they speak. This is the same kind of reasoning that went on in socialist East Germany when they decided they would no longer use the word FŁhrerschein (driving license), because it contains the word FŁhrer.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



im not sure I get this country yet, whatís the deal with naacp?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



the zen kernel on your laptop ó yes? no?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Kazinsal posted:

also even hn didn't like that dude, apparently paul graham shadowbanned him a year before he died

i thought you were talking about esr and it was saddening to see the present tense on his wikipedia page.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



itíd be cool if someone looked at a 13-year-old software package called wayland, identified all the mistakes, and made something immediately usable

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



mycophobia posted:

gently caress it i installed gnome. whats the worst that could happen

you wake up one morning to find out you have metamorphosed into miguel de icaza.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



mycophobia posted:

EDIT theres a separate "Tweaks" settings thing that lets me reenable the right mouse button

there are some extensions that make gnome more usable. unfortunately theyíre written in JavaScript and have a tendency to crash. when I was looking for a wayland-compatible guakelike I found an extension called dTile that works OK most of the time. i really like a dropdown terminal.

you install the extensions through a browser extension for installing gnome extensions. lol

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Nomnom Cookie posted:

the freebsd defender has logged on

in the mid 2000s put my time and effort into learning freebsd well because i figured itíd be a better bet in the job market and would translate to OS X. ďsurely companies would favor the bsd license, sensible architecture, and excellent documentation.Ē

i used to carry around the design and implementation of the freebsd operating system. i canít get over it and i hate systemd so much. i donít have it in me to learn the same amount of linux. everything that followed has been an embitttering disappointment.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019




im on the spectrum and carried the dsm-4 in the space i had left in my backpack. also the Smalltalk 80 blue book

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



I want to be able to sit down and say ďthis is Unix. I know thisĒ and have the tomes of manuals I read autistically to have relevance. I used to read the x11 manuals too (a big part of why I dislike wayland, probably
) thereís nothing comparable anymore and the way things fit together donít make sense. itís dissonant with my idea of unix history and convention, which seemed pretty great to me. things change too fast now and itís mostly just red hat winging it. freebsd 5.x felt like a home ó linux feels like an airbnb.

I donít like it because I donít like it and the mental structures I built around BSD are increasingly irrelevant yet arenít replaced by anything that makes my life better at all. itís complicated in places I donít need it to be complicated, and oversimplified in places i want more control. similar with how python took over everything when smalltalk, which actually makes sense and had nice books, was right there (io would have made a good replacement that works better with the Unix model). good books are important to my computing experience. now thereís just terrible man pages, README.md, and web tutorials.

i know it sounds like a joke but im serious about unix as a way of structuring the space inside a computer ó i knew the building layout, how the furnace worked, how to replace the fuse and so on, and there were good blueprints and product manuals. i feel kind of lost now and need to go to (lovely) docs a lot more because i donít know how to memorize the new stuff, it doesnít mesh well with the old knowledge.

gently caress esr, cathedrals all the way.

mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Oct 29, 2021

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



Progressive JPEG posted:

i mean even lenovo, who are probably still selling models with vga ports to this day, have usbc power

Iíve had awful luck with the USB-C/TB ports in my T480, which has given me more problems than any computer Iíve ever had. they were replaced twice and now the main one for power stopped working again, and Iím out of the extended warranty. theyíre really weak and the cable tends to fall out with the slightest budge (cable brand doesnít matter). based on that and awful thunderbird firmware issues, I will never buy or recommend a thinkpad to anyone.

Iím waiting for this to die so I can get a MacBook or maybe an XPS (which I had before and enjoyed, but 4GB ram was no longer needs suiting)

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019



BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Ö at least one major bank has a mail sorting system where FreeBSD is used in some capacity.
Other industries with legal compliance are telecommunications, the medicinal industry and the industry around delivering software to the armed forces - all of which I don't know specifics, but I know that people who work on the BSDs have been hired by subcontractors of those, because they worked on the BSDs.

so youíre saying thereís work in BSD if I sell my soul? ngl it sounds like a bargain worth considering.

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