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psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Broken Machine posted:

i kind of want to set up a gpu passthrough on a linux so i can still play windows games without actually having windows as my main os. anyone here done gpu passthrough, and how did it work?

this totally doesn't actually answer your question since i haven't screwed around with that methodology in a long while, but wine is surprisingly excellent at games these days

valve's contributions to it via proton are even better. i wish there was an easy way to actually /install/ (non-steam) stuff through steam, but running windows games under linux via steam is a surprisingly pleasant experience.

psiox fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 30, 2019

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psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
assuming you haven't used wine in a few years, you might really be surprised, but you're still correct that there's still plenty of reason to run windows one way or another

still surprised at how much native lunix support games seem to have in this crazy future. i think i'm partially just impressed at how steam/valve have helped normalize the platform.

welp proved the title of this thread :goonsay:

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Soricidus posted:

if linux doesn’t have a stable abi then where are they keeping the horse? :ohdear:

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

just install X11 and make sure the DPI is set correctly (monitors often report nonsense figures in their metadata, so sometimes you have to set it)

correct, this works well. i run debian on a surface pro 3 and routinely switch between normal and high-dpi displays and things work great as long as you go into (in my case) xfce's appearance settings to specify dpi. but even then it barely matters because my old eyes don't care.

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
Whoah, nested hardware virtualization is no more? Like no apic-v?

I used to have a good use case for it, but I guess it's not a huge dealbreaker. But I'd definitely like to migrate to this whole 'linux host, windows as a guest with GPU passthrough' if it's something folks are having success with.

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
Ah, so the hardware is still there?

I've been on intel for too many years and anything I go to next will for sure be AMD. Though lol at all the incomprehensible product names these days.

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
I'm weirdly impressed at the state of AMD drivers on linux, so hey, unless there's a good reason I might be done with nvidia for awhile anyhow.

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Perplx posted:

Also the most important part is to get a motherboard with good iommu groupings, a bad motherboard will group both your video cards in a single iommu group forcing you to pass both. There is an ACS patch to fix this but it can be buggy so just get a good motherboard.

This is totally bringing back why I haven't dealt with getting/building a new computer in years. Oof. Are there 'good' mobo manufacturers these days?

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's 2019 and steam has built-in support for wine w/ full directX

you are not gonna need or want a windows vm

doom 2016 runs better on my hardware under windows than under linux with updated vulkan libs and all that goodness :(

same with prey, which is an amazing game that owns maybe even a little more than doom

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i have not found a good solution for installing non-steam windows games /through/ proton, but i'm all ears if anyone's figured out a strategy that works

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Soricidus posted:

me


nah, my laptop already runs a tolerable unix

well look at the Tadpole owner over here

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
brew is fine, by which i mean better than the alternatives on that platform, which is the best option for platforms that also need 'enterprise' support and/or policy enforcement

so like with all good computer things, it is the most palatable of all the trash you could be noshing on




though asdf is very good software for what it does so

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
see, i'm thinking that it's a sign that it's finally time to learn emacs

besides reiserfs was bad and for dingdongs from the get-go

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i haven't used kde in so long that it surprises me to hear they still have releases

is it Good Enough to Try? i ask as an XFCE dork, a child baby, a dingdong

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i remember being younger and getting really into blackbox

then shifted to a fork (?) called waimea

then shifted to a fork of /that/ called kahakai



man that was a lot of bullshit

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

The_Franz posted:

I just got my remaining class action settlement funds for Sony removing Linux from the ps3

$3.02 United States dollarydoos

brb going to buy half a sandwich with my newfound wealth lol

maybe you could buy a set of linux CDs from walnut creek

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
hell yeah

legalize yosstep

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
yikes, yeah, that seems like it'd break POV somewhere deep in the occipital lobe

love too stay on my old-rear end dell 3005FPW that somehow still runs

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

The_Franz posted:

oh good, there seems to be no way of upgrading other than :pt:

leapp is strictly rhel only

a fresh centos 7.x release just came out, too, so it's not like it's going away anytime soon

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
as a user of stable ubuntu desktop for years, it is kinda amazing that there are almost never real problems (except one more exotic computer but even that seems to have had its problems disappear in the last lts release.) oh yeah once i had to read and follow some trivial instructions to install video drivers that was 100x less painful than doing some dumb registry thing to fix the quarterly windows fuckup

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
the codeweavers people are good but also libreoffice works fine for lots of things

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

pram posted:

lol i wrote many high school papers with that hunk of poo poo

hey abiword was great if you had only used StarOffice before

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Progressive JPEG posted:

that said, anyone using alpine to run a couple million of anything deserves everything they get

correct

lmao at anyone running alpine. it fits too well that all of the (awful and not remotely correct) justifications for it come from node and php people.

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i run unreal tournament 2004 through wine

...

on osx!

and it works perfectly, including multiplayer. so that's a little linuxy and my contribution for the hour.

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Smythe posted:

doing anything remotely complicated or tricky regarding audio on a computer quickly becomes insane, busted, and hosed up so imo you should farm as much of it off to small unknowable boxes that plug into the computer in a simple way.

g-d i want a roland sc-55 so much

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Celexi posted:

posting on page 666

in the spirit of this, doom (1992) is exactly the reason i want a good midi synth

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Sniep posted:

hail satan

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
it's better after you learn to stop worrying and love systemd (or at least love that every vendor/distribution isn't trying to roll their own init system/service management stuff anymore)

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Suspicious Dish posted:

so it's woot but on a truck? Lmao

uber, but for woot

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

pram posted:

full disk encryption isnt good? thats linux users for you

as a lumix user i am also a big fan of full-disk encryption with filevault2

i kinda like the user-specific ecryptfs stuff you get with e.g. ubuntu but it still isn't enough

e: i know there are good solutions for full-disk encryption on debian but i regularly boot things remotely and have yet to figure out how to make that comport well with FDE (though some people certainly have that working well for them)

psiox fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Oct 19, 2019

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
cyberpunk 2019: everyone is now a kubernetes VAR

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

pram posted:

mesosphere and dc/os are probably dead though if that’s what you mean. it was dumb to begin with

d/c os

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
lmao if you don't fondly remember kernel 2.4 as being an incredible improvement over its predecessors

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

mystes posted:

If I remember correctly, the old versioning system completely sucked because 2.2 had gotten ridiculously out of date before 2.4 was released and so you had to use the unstable 2.3 kernel for tons of stuff.

yeah :/ all rolling on the -mm tree

i just discovered that software suspend now Just Works on the latest ubuntu on my surface pro 3 (which caused me to learn about how ACPI sleep states are barely a real thing anymore), so i am having a Happy With Linux kinda day

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Progressive JPEG posted:

no YOUR computing wrong

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
imo running on a non-LTS ubuntu is asking for trouble (which is the point, if you want to be on the bleeding edge and recapture your gentoo days then maybe you can help fix things for the LTS release)

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
ubuntu is pretty good

criticisms of packages notwithstanding (if they're really not available there may be ppas, but even then it's reasonable to want a semi-curated epel-like thing for more common stuff like that) my position on most of those is that you shouldn't be relying on distribution packages anyway

i'd feel bad about this digression into linuxsplaining but it's the linux thread so

psiox fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Nov 20, 2019

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i'm not saying i'm not owned but there is apparmor

also: real repos for those kinds of packages do make me feel better (less behind but still supported by someone) or locally-built packages where you can actually control things, but i'm nearly positive there're actual distribution packages for those (though lord knows it may be a pain to figure out what actually contains what, packages of packages for stuff like python/ruby wind up with mangled naming schemes)

long story short, if i'm in a business setting, yes i am all about the rhel ecosystem and that is why i try to not drink too much debian-ecosystem flavoraid and stay aware that All Distributions Are Bastards

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i'm not sure if your anger is performative for the linux thread or genuine but i can assure you that my opinions on this are not that strong

*EL is fine
ubuntu is fine

use EL for work because there are actual support contracts around
use ubuntu if you don't care about apparmor for your unreal tournament 2004 appliance

no need to be mad

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psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
well if you're curious about my life choices

(a) [x]ubuntu ships with better hardware enablement, in my opinion. i use debian plenty, just usually virtualized. plus the packages tend to be more updated and i like their LTS model. plus: binary packages from real vendors target that platform and seem to mostly do an okay job of supporting it.
(b) i don't use fedora because i do not enjoy janiting redhat derivatives, but that's personal preference.

i also do not do any financial transactions or host sensitive content on my linux installations, they largely exist as a cross between actual workstations and gaming appliances

so anyway hopefully you can be less mad about a stranger on the internet's computing decisions with this valuable information

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