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ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

playing games on windows means spending a lot of time as a windows cj

my gaming rig consists of a Windows 7 PC that I set steam to boot directly into big picture mode and plugged an Xbox controller into and literally never janitor.

also I have empirically determined that the best linux dev environment is Debian stable with mate from backports. u can thank me later.

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ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

bobbilljim posted:

does it have libc6 2.14 or greater yet

dk/dc I have to compile in a chroot because our code base was designed around Debian 4.0, and no one can update it without breaking all of our projects.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
all linux desktop environments are garbage

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I was thinking of maybe possibly trying gnome 3 again but this thread has warned me off of it thanks yospos.

Mate suiting the hell out of my needs.

e: KDE 5 looking slick maybe in 10 years it'll be usable.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
just use mate. it's like gnome but without the half assed attempt at cargo-culting the worst bits of windows 8 and lion.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
"let's make a desktop that is completely unusable piss garbage by grabbing some bits and pieces of successful osses without understanding why they work!" -- an idiot hell fucker

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
gnome 3. replacing poo poo that works with broken garbage because it's old.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
maybe the next time you break the desktop paradigm try replacing it with something better rather than just breaking it because it's old.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
here's a hint, unless you are designing an interface for a device called "iPad" or falls into the category of "phone" it shouldn't ape those interfaces for no loving reason. no one wants or uses touch screens

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I bought my mom a macbook air and her needs are being suited

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
gnome 3 is a masterclass case study in the linux "if it's broken you can fix it yourself" mentality

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
win95 is oooooolllllld so we have to throw out everything that was good about it in order to ~~innovate~~~.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
how is lxqt? I would assume that it's still very unfinished.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

BobHoward posted:

:agreed: but you dont always get to choose what's in your work pc

the only reason I even bother with this hobbyist garbage with it's terrible armchair ~innovators~.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
lot of server janitoring going on in this desktop thread

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

eschaton posted:

what's that? it looks like windows.

if you have a choice in what to run, why would you run something that looks or acts like windows?

because in the intervening 20 years no one has made something better?

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I like debian stable because it's not constantly pushing untested security updates that break your graphics driver.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I don't think anyone who makes a linux actually uses more than one monitor

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
windows 8 is also a pos. almost gnome3 bad.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
they work great until an untested kernel security update breaks them.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
windows 7 is pretty nice


I like it

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
as long as steam continues to run on win7 it will fulfill its sole purpose

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

Greed is eternal posted:

btw nerds, should I be using KDE or GNOME nowadays?

both of these are piss garbage (but KDE is better because despite being a janky neon collection of sperg bait, it's at least usable). Mate and XFCE are relatively stable and are designed for mouse and keyboard use, not some fictional linux tablet that will never exist, use one of those.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:

i need to start an application, let me load up a screen full of gigantic icons that take five minutes to scroll through because everyone uses tablets anyway right --designers of metro, os x lion, and gnome 3

see this wouldn't be a bad thing if, like in lion, it was a thing you could just ignore because they didn't unecessarily remove anything because ~~innovation~~.

fwiw my mom loves launchpad because it makes sense to her. I think I've used it once to see what it was like.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
hey pram did you hear wayne static died today?

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

pram posted:

long term sucking

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
poo poo like that is why I use an ancient linux. A lot less breakage when you need to spend your time actually working rather than janitoring your hobbyist garbage.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
does anyone even still make non-windows keyboards aside from just putting a different logo on the windows/command/subpar key?

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
If you absolutely must use Linux because you're an idiot like me, it really depends on how much janitoring you want to do:

Infrequent - Debian stable, Ubuntu LTS etc.
Frequent - Debian testing, Ubuntu etc.
Constant - Arch, Gentoo, Debian unstable

I think I used SUSE once because it's the only one that ships KDE by default. That was a mistake.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I don't know anything about those because every time I have been forced to use linux I had my choice and went with what I know (debian). Aside from that one time I went insane and spent a week setting up arch on a netbook (I was also insane when I thought that was a good idea).

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
vvvvv

ZShakespeare fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Nov 13, 2014

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I would straight up murder a man to have the multimonitor workspace behaviour shamelessly copied from how OSX has done it since mavericks.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I write a UI and it's for sperglords, and they get exactly what they deserve.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

Soricidus posted:

given this fact, it is not at all obvious that the correct goal, for people who wish to secure its future, is to try to turn it into a polished consumer-oriented os.

by cargo culting all the worst bits of lion and windows 8

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

oval office AND PASTE posted:

grandma will never accidentally sstumble across emacs so no its not really the same thing at all

grandma will never accidentally stumble across gnome 3 either.


unless you've got a windows/mac app in the wings.

e: actually iOS app because lol at making ur poor ol' granny use any of that poo poo.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
this thread is like linux








































a pos

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
linux is to oses as pineapple is to pizza toppings.



for those with terrible taste

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica

Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:

god drat infinality owns

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
Jesus Christ I am so glad that I will never have to deal with any of this horrible cj init poo poo

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ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

by Pragmatica
I liked lubuntu on my netbook (back when I was more insane/poor than I am now) it was nice and speedy, and didn't have any crazy ux experiments like Ubuntu Netbook.

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