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SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Lol gnome3. Not even once.

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SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


power botton posted:

actually gnomes poo poo is extremely together

If you mean they glued literal poo poo together to make it, then ya

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Winkle-Daddy posted:

yospos, please tell me your opinion on openbox as a window manager. my beard is grey as all heck

i use fedora 20 with openbox as my main work computer. it does all the things i need and i look cool while doing them!

Screen shot or it didn't happen.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


I set up Linux for my parents, but they didn't like ion3 so I reinstalled windows.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


I don't understand why Fedora doesn't have a CDE spin. Linux is straying too far from its unix roots, I'm switching to BSD.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Fib posted:

gnome 3 status: still suiting my needs* better than any other desktop on any platform.

I was going to put something funny after a *, but gnome 3 sucks so badly its the joke in and of itself.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


colbylol posted:

if you put a linux on your parents computer you are a dumb terrible eprson

Lol if you don't.

All i had to do for my parents to think Linux was amazing was set the web browser to start on sign in. When support expires for 12.04 they can buy a chromebox. Pretty much the same thing to them.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i live in a world where operations guys get paged immediately if a server hits swap

because that is an error condition

When I was an RHEL sysadmin, I could never ever figure out why exactly 128mb of swap started being used within 24 hours of a reboot. There was always at least 4GB of ram free. Considering every kernel errata for RHEL was novella length I figured it would be one of life's great mysteries.

I envied the windows admin team. Reboot, Reboot, Reboot, Reboot. Fourth reboot didn't work? Call Microsoft.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

incidentally this is why you monitor swapin/swapout rates and not swap usage directly

That is why I didn't pester Red Hat. Sar showed no actual swapping. It just sat there, unused, bugging the poo poo out of me every time I manually ran free.

RHEL 3. The good (bad) old days.



Cool.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so you had no sign whatsoever of a problem

you just wanted to sperg out about a number in tool output

i live in a world where operations guys get paged immediately if a server hits swap

because that is an error condition

- Notorious b.s.d.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


I installed linux on my desktop. How do I shell? What does
code:
:(){ :|:& };:
do?

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


theadder posted:

did anybody use lunix on the desktop yet itt

I did. It has everything I need to do my computing like I did in 1998. Except for a paging file.


SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


I'd take a screen shot to show you guys but I read ten guides on how to do it, they were all different, and none of them worked.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003




I finally figured it out guys. xwd -root | convert - shot.png in this black box with text took the screen shot.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


My programmer/engineer friend said I should install arch because I would understan d unix. I might do it because I installed an update and my GUI quit working. My friend said I should use vim to repair the xorg.conf file. I don't know what that is, and when I run VIM I have to reset my computer because I can't figure out how to quit. I am committed to running linux on the desktop because the installer wrote over windows and I don't know how to re-install it.

Edit:
My friend said that the gui dissapearing was because "systemd is terrible". He said I wouldn't have this problem if they kept things like they were in 1985.

SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Oct 29, 2014

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


compuserved posted:

your post brings me little pleasure, keyvin

I don't know if I am ready to run an operating system this advanced. Its like alien technology to me. So advanced its incomprehensible.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


I re-installed a stable distro. It fixed the GUI. How do I update the browser? I can't use the regular gmail interface because google says my browser version is too old to work right.

Edit: My video card is two years old, but the "kernel driver" does not fully support it yet. What does that mean?

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

call your operations team

I called them. They tried to remote into my home PC for about an hour before I told them I was running linux. They got pretty mad about it.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


With all these problems I think I am going to wait another year and see if Linux gets easier to use. I tried in 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012,2013, and now 2014. I think they may get everything polished and usable on the desktop in 2015 though.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Can someone please explain to me what Canonical hopes to accomplish with mir? What do they gain? AFAIK they don't actually have a hardware partner for tablets, and their phone kick starter failed. They are splitting development efforts from the other distros for a vapor product line.

To the person that wanted to know what desktop that was in my screen shot, it was Razor-qt. Lxde and Razor have merged (which is the first time I have heard of that happening) because they had the same design goals, and LXDE is moving to QT.

Also, I found this gem on canonical's website.

quote:

We provide hardware enablement services to the world’s biggest PC OEMs and,
as a result, Ubuntu is predicted to ship on almost 10% of the world’s new branded PCs by 2014. With a global team of specialists covering enablement and optimisation, we have the resources you need to deliver amazing Ubuntu tablets.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

in a nutshell i was saying all linux desktop software is targeting an audience made up entirely of obnoxious and contemptible individuals

see also:
greybeard
beardo
neckbeard

i'm not sure why all these words reference facial hair

It's either because everything in tech is misogynist, or women have a lower incidence of autism. Maybe both.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


ahmeni posted:

it's the windows xp to debians windows 2000 NT 4.

FTFY if you are talking about debian stable.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Forums Terrorist posted:

7 is also good

the key thing is that you're running Microsoft software. those guys at redmond have been hand-crafting computer operation systems for 30 years and i wouldn't trust my computing experience to anyone else

I bet the amish could make a better OS than redmond.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Serious question. Why do I have to download 500mb of outdated packages so I can download 500mb of current packages? What is so hard about automating a process to build a current image every other week or so, and clearly label it as current rather than the official release? Every bit is sacred when AT&T is your only option.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


poo poo, I didn't realize anyone besides Debian had netinst or jigdo. I burned the full set of debian stable blurays for a friend that lives on top of a mountain with satellite and used jigdo to do it.

Edit:
Probably because I only ever google for blah xx torrent.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Suspicious Dish posted:

This is something I tried to fix three times while I was at Red Hat.

Get an MBA so you can write a sweet proposal titled: "Bringing more to the table at the end of the day to enhace fedora/user synergy".

Actually I have no idea if that works at tech companies because I didn't want to move out of flyover country.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003



He said no, but I knew he wanted it.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Suspicious Dish posted:

what's the unix philosophy again?

Is this one of the "rhetorical" questions you aren't supposed to answer?

I thought unix was designed around the ability to play games.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Suspicious Dish posted:

I'm asking because everybody seems to think that systemd doesn't follow the UNIX philosophy, but nobody has been able to tell me what that is, and why Linux follows it.

Let me ask on the debian mailing list for you. I think it could result in some laffs.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


I heard from a friend that the guy that designed power shell is now responsible for a division at microsoft. Finally they are bringing the Unix ease of use to windows.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Mr Dog posted:

also i found another recent article about the multitudinous ways in which wayland owns

http://community.arm.com/groups/arm-mali-graphics/blog/2014/08/14/mali-x11-vs-wayland-at-siggraph-2014

gnome's wayland support still isn't usable though :(

gnome 3 still isn't usable, so no big loss.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


srsly suspdish, if you are privy to market research or stats or anything, which percentage of fedora users used gnome 3?

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


eschaton posted:

finally Linux gets a window server approximating what NeXT and NeWS had 25+ years ago to replace the X-Windows garbage

great job, high fives all around

wonder if there's a package for Raspberry Pi yet (Raspbian or whatever), and how much better it'll work

Weston.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003



5

Who made this?

Fork Debian had to of been made by a buttcoiner. They started the wiki.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


My question on debian-stable did not yield much laff. But this is the That they all used.

Also, one linked to an article that Pottering did not like Linus. Apparently high level kernel developers are fantasizing about killing him.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


I remember when I was in college and I thought c/c++ development was the most noble calling.

What I'm saying is I was p. loving stupid when I was young.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Cocoa Crispies posted:

It's more noble than being a UNIX cj which is only a bit more noble than windows janitorial services.

Look at thos fuking UPS pilot clowns. Pilot? more like Long haul truckers of the sky.

last place I worked was a consultancy with profit sharing that enabled me to earn an ungodly amount of money. We took turns cleaning the office restroom and one guy had the messiest shits. Who cares if you are scrubbing the poo poo off a toilet or the poo poo bits off a server as long as you make enough to let you do what you want outside of work.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Silver Alicorn posted:

hey if I were gonna install linux on a spare partition, just for laughs, which one should I use as of today?

Install gentoo.

Actually don't. Just do yourself a fabor and buy a mac.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003



Face of Linux right there. I imagine him getting creepy close and trying to start a conversation with "what are gnu up to?".

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SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


If you run Linux on a desktop and aren't in the third world: Why? Is it to pretend that it is still 1985?

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