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raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
has anyone said Kool Desktop Environment yet?

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raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
if you have to suffer a linux, pleas use xfce




goddamn those icons though

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Soricidus posted:

try enlightenment op

serioustalk: fvwm2 is really good. you'd hate it though because you care more about how things look than how they function.

you're not even advocating the use of the real spergatroid WMs

http://xmonad.org

http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
lurmickes

quote:

On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 03:38:20PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> Nick has decided he wants to be a kernel developer, a laudable goal.
>
> He however has decided not to take any advice given to me by a number of other
> kernel developers on how to work on the kernel. So instead he sends random
> broken patches to random subsystems in the hope that one will slip past a sleepy
> maintainer and end up in the kernel.

So far, he has tried to do this with the ext4, btrfs, scsi, and usb
subsystems. I'm probably missing a few. I suspect he's jumping
around to different subsystems hoping to find one where his reputation
hasn't been blackened yet by his refusal to deeply understand kernel
code (or to test to see if it compiles, never mind trying to boot a
kernel with that patch and exercise the modified code) before starting
to try to "help".

Other theories besides the one that Dave has advocated that he's
trying to write a University Thesis on trolling the kernel development
process (either by seeing if an obviously broken patch could be snuck
past the peer review system, or to see if he can try to get someone to
lose their temper much like Linus is supposed to do all the time ---
not realizing that this only happens to people who really should know
better, not to clueless newbies), are that he's a badly written AI
chatbot, or just a clueless high school student with more tenacity
than one usually expects at that age. Or maybe he's trying to win a
bet, or is trying to get extra credit or to complete some course
assignment by getting a patch into the kernel. Or maybe this is just
the universe trying to demonstrate exactly how true the
Dunning-Krueger effect really is....
> He isn't willing to spend his own time learning anything, he is
> expecting that kernel
> developers want to spoon feed someone who sends them broken patches.
>
> We've asked him to stop, he keeps doing it, then when caught out apologizes
> with something along the lines, of I'm trying to learn, "idiot
> mistake", despite having
> been told to take a step back and try and learn how the kernel works.
>
> Now we have to waste more maintainer time making sure nobody accidentally
> merges anything he sends.

Indeed; if you see any patches from Nick on other mailing lists which
you follow, it's a good idea to check and see if said patch is garbage
--- to date, his track record has been remarkably consistent.
But please do it in the nicest way possible, just in case he's a
reddit troll or some "journalist" trying to get headline bait by
getting a kernel developer to flame him to a crisp.


https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=bdc3ae7221213963f438faeaa69c8b4a2195f491

quote:

diff --git a/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.c b/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.c
index 76441dc..dfd2243 100644
--- a/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.c
+++ b/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.c
@@ -1238,7 +1238,7 @@ static ssize_t toshiba_kbd_bl_mode_store(struct device *dev,
int mode = -1;
int time = -1;

- if (sscanf(buf, "%i", &mode) != 1 && (mode != 2 || mode != 1))
+ if (sscanf(buf, "%i", &mode) != 1 || (mode != 2 || mode != 1))
return -EINVAL;

/* Set the Keyboard Backlight Mode where:


quote:

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Andev <debian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Nick Krause <xerofo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have read the books you suggested, seems I was not doing the work in
>> the correct way.
>> I seem to be helping out with some traces for now.
>> Regards Nick
>>
>
> Nick, Are you suffering from autism? This is a genuine question as
> your behavior is really making lots of people think so. Please let us
> know so that we can act accordingly.
>
> --
> Andev
I do have aspergers.
Nick

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Suspicious Dish posted:

FYI, here's the computers we're building. They run Linux.




I'm at the office today while nobody else is because it's a nice place to chill that has p. good Wi-Fi while I'm in between hunting for apartments in SF. Sorry for the crummy camera pics.

I'm the box of wheat thins

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
Suspicious Dish, just make sure you're getting paid in cash and not equity or stock options or something.

COLD HARD CASH

NOW

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
reminds me more of a dieter rams thing



raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
the next time I am forced to use something that isn't a mac, I'm throwing on http://www.pcbsd.org

yeah that's right, desktop freebsd

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
ports + pkgng owns, sorry about whatever broken poo poo y'all have to deal with

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
can you acquire the necessary hardware to use a dumb space cadet / symbolics keyboard on a modern computer?

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

yospos is such a dumbfuck apple echo chamber that it even shits up the linux thread

folks who, by definition, do not understand what a unix desktop is for have Very Strong Opinions about unix desktops. some idiots who have nfc are 100% certain that you should use a lovely 1980s unix from a consumer electronics vendor to do unix software development

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Ciaphas posted:

solaris is poo poo, tcl/tk is poo poo, SunCC is double dog dare hypershit, working with all three every day is poo poo, kill me please

I like parts of tcl and tk

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

still riddled with weird bsd tools

glug glug glug

save me stallman


quote:

Why GNU su does not support the `wheel' group

(This section is by Richard Stallman.)

Sometimes a few of the users try to hold total power over all the rest. For example, in 1984, a few users at the MIT AI lab decided to seize power by changing the operator password on the Twenex system and keeping it secret from everyone else. (I was able to thwart this coup and give power back to the users by patching the kernel, but I wouldn't know how to do that in Unix.)

However, occasionally the rulers do tell someone. Under the usual su mechanism, once someone learns the root password who sympathizes with the ordinary users, he or she can tell the rest. The "wheel group" feature would make this impossible, and thus cement the power of the rulers.

I'm on the side of the masses, not that of the rulers. If you are used to supporting the bosses and sysadmins in whatever they do, you might find this idea strange at first.

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

ShadowHawk posted:

for real though I don't think I've ever heard anyone other than an Apple fanboy reference the "certified unix!" thing as though it mattered

meanwhile all the not-linuxes (except OSX!) have linux-compatibility layers. OSX meanwhile has 9 year old versions of Bash because they're afraid someone might use their distribution of GPL3 software to attack their patents that are so vague they also cover 9 year old versions of Bash.

they ship a version of zsh from this year, that's all I cares about

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Soricidus posted:

least of all since apple stopped giving a poo poo about the dedicated server market. who exactly is running unix software on os x, except a minority of people who just want a desktop linux that also runs non-unix software?

just find out how many people DL http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/ and you'd have your answer

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Zombywuf posted:

also Kinesis supremacy

sorry about your crippling rsi

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raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

BobHoward posted:

why in the gently caress would you forcibly kill the osx window server just because you're scared of processes running for a week??? you could just log out and then log in. that would do precisely the same thing without danger of data loss.

I think the implication here is that OS X is locked up somehow, and a restart would kill those processes, so if there was yet another escape hatch you could relaunch windowserver

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