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Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Suspicious Dish posted:

hi thread, today i got chewed out by an extremely unstable developer in the foss graphics space

http://libv.livejournal.com/27461.html

tldr, that just seems like a baby crying

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Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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so loving future posted:

sincere lol at anybody who doesn't use vim

what are you even doing with your life???

getting paid :boom:

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

i had some unironic gentoo fanatic try to cry at me how systemd is terrible garbage and how sysvinit, openrc, and upstart are all undeniably better than it :laffo:

I love systemd it's the best thing ever for my long running daemon applications. I just wish Java had a way to use the privileged sockets that systemd can pass to your process instead of having to run as root :sigh:

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Holy poo poo that's amazing, now I want to do work poo poo over the weekend :(

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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pram posted:

cool linux stuck on ext until the heat death of the universe

Redhat defaults to XFS

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Sapozhnik posted:

red hat's installer is awful

my anaconda don't want none unless you got LUNs, hun

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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for a while I thought people wearing A|X shirts were some weird Unix hipsters.

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

https://github.com/firehol/netdata i rolled this on internal servers of my department today and im super impressed/satisfied with it

holy poo poo, I'm glad I remembered to look for this post after I got home. That demo looks amazing, I want to gently caress my computer now

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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spankmeister posted:

Wrong and wrong.

also you're an idiot for thinking this poo poo is hard to setup

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

this is a separate topic but a worthy one to discuss

right now i have 1.6 gb of data sitting in swap, despite having ~7.5 gb of free RAM. these are pages that programs requested, and used, and then never touched again. they were paged out to disk due to very long dis-use, and they remain wired up but nobody is touching them

basically i just got 1.6 gb of free additional RAM for my system. more space for programs and disk caching

without swap, you lose that opportunity

But on a server with 256GB of RAM, does that really help?

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Schadenboner posted:

Why would you have that much dedicated to a single VM?

DPDK handling 80gbps of traffic

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Toady posted:

oh boy nerd humor



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Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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i was reading up on how it works with mdadm devices and lol

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Jan 22, 2004

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Poopernickel posted:

my macbook pro literally gave my fingers gangrene and they all fell off

now I have to type with my tongudfgqdc

smdh dilz post every day

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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el dorito posted:

I stand corrected. I pulled information wholesale from wikipedia and this is where it got me.

the way of fishmech

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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slap

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Jan 22, 2004

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abigserve posted:

this is wrong in 2018. Most modern netengs are more comfortable in linux then they are with network os's. I can go into a lot of detail about why this is but the long and short of it is; everyone learned how to automate stuff, and then found that automating text-based configurations and package installs is a million billion times easier than manipulating command shells from the 90s and APIs straight out of the trashcan

Cumulus linux on mellanox hardware is the ~premium~ data center solution right now unless you can fit all of your links into a single pair of switches and the big companies driving a lot of networking direction like google and facebook deploy their network hardware using linux.

In the context of your discussion re: firewalls/lbs/etc, if someone could release a solution running on linux with comparable performance with the hardware vendors it would absolutely be immediately adopted. However, this is highly unlikely to happen for many years if ever due to the sheer difficulty of that task; routing packets at 10G+ through an inspection engine either requires an extremely well written inspection engine, or some very smart hardware, or both.

We're using DPDK and VPP to ship apps that can do 80Gbps on regular 1U COTS hardware. Granted our app doesn't do packet inspection to the level that a firewall needs, but I expect it's coming soon.

I work in the telecom space and everything is moving to OpenStack and NFV. Every RFP and RFQ I've seen lately states that they won't consider any vendor solutions that don't have a virtualized product in addition to their standalone hardware solution. I expect that you'll see all the old players lumbering forward with their current platforms running in VMs for a long time to come. And while most network operators are incompetent as hell, everyone is salivating at the chance to turn their OEMs into software vendors and being able to drop them for their competitors at any time. Yes I know there's more costs than just the boxes, like retraining operations on the new tools, but without these million dollar boxes tying them down they might actually do it now. I've heard places are adopting Huawei gear in their core networks because they are practically giving those product away and making it up in sales of base stations. And I suspect Ericsson and Nokia are doing the same thing with their virtualized platforms that these operators are eager to start buying, and making it up on the radio side as well.

I'd say that Intel is a big player in the data center since DPDK is their pet project and it's part of the fd.io alliance that everything seem to be standardizing on. My impression is that Mellanox has had useful APIs for using their cards in custom solutions for a while now, but Intel got the NFV market to jump on their poo poo. Mellanox had to play ball by developing drivers for their cards to work with DPDK in order to not get left in the dust. So far I've seen a pretty even split of deployments on Intel and Mellanox NICs. I could be way off, but I'd love to hear more on this if you can share.

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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TimWinter posted:

Hacking WEP networks with the aircrack-ng suite was my jam back in 2008. You'd hack onto someone's wifi just because you could.

I had to spend a summer at grandparents house with no WiFi. god bless those hackers!

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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let i hug posted:

Anyone have a link for a minimal-pain guide to setting up SELinux on a Debian desktop?

I’ll pray for you

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Poopernickel posted:

systemd: "I don't know what changed but I guess it's working now??"

words we should all definitely think about the most important process in our entire linux

wtf are you blathering on about

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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lol at how wrong you are

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Jan 22, 2004

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so if folks pirate your employer's products, that's good and cool with you?

I spent months literally securing our product from people pirating it. If they managed to jump through all the hoops, props to them.

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

would unironically rather use aix every day

runs on nicer hardware, too

But you do worthless poo poo with Unix that no one else in this forum has ever had to deal with.

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Jan 22, 2004

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

emacs will be better post-rms because we will finally get llvm-based c++ support

Richard M. Stallman resigns from FSF o and also MIT good riddance.

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Jan 22, 2004

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

for your next step try installing a unix that doesn't suck

OSX is great for the poo poo normal people do

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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my homie dhall posted:

do NOT use Fedora, op, stick to ubuntu

wrong as gently caress

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Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

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netbsd it is

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