Linux: process number 2 is the logging subsystem

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Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

I use fedora at work because all the servers are rhel and it's better to learn 1 stack of poo poo than 2

Perplx fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Mar 21, 2014

# ¿ Mar 21, 2014 14:16

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# ¿ Mar 16, 2025 06:53

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Suspicious Dish posted:

Their response was that they shouldn't make it more user-friendly: idiots who don't know what the terminal is shouldn't be running Linux in the first place.

i sort of agree, if you don't know what a terminal is selinux is overkill

# ¿ Mar 27, 2014 18:39

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

i was running xfec on fedora for work, but a few days ago i noticed cinnamon is in the repository and it's a pretty good
that my desktop linux story

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 16:02

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

syntaxrigger posted:

True I just didn't know if one distro outshines the rest.

Also osx is Meh. I loves me a Unix but I could get more machine for my dollar with windows and cygwin if I wanted to pay for an os

Cygwin sucks it's performance sucks, you can't rely on the scheduler, there is even more newline character bullshit then normal and it has small package library

I wrote bash script on Cygwin and then I had to port it to linux because sort didn't work the same way, and how case sensitivity works is retarded, once it was ported it was about 100x faster then Cygwin

# ¿ Sep 7, 2014 00:16

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

we all defend our purchases, only difference is that some of us are right

# ¿ Oct 20, 2014 15:58

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

i don't think anyone who makes windows uses a high dpi display ballmer_80inch_1080p_metro.jpg

# ¿ Oct 30, 2014 21:36

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

systemd betrays the unix philosophy as much as the linux kernel does

# ¿ Oct 31, 2014 17:10

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

i think the unix philosophy is to make bespoke scripts to solve problems that shouldn't exist in the first place to ensure job security by obscurity

# ¿ Oct 31, 2014 18:01

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

compuserved posted:

or centos

centos 6 and 7 are worlds apart, but it shouldn't change much from now on

# ¿ Nov 13, 2014 15:00

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

just switched my work machine from a 2009 i7 920 with 18GB ddr3 ram running fedora to a 2008 mac pro with dual xeons and 32GB ddr2 fbdimm with osx
it's a downgrade on hardware but holy poo poo is the desktop better, so much for linux on the desktop

# ¿ Nov 17, 2014 18:24

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

OS X isn't linux, but it's linux enough for me, I just want manage some linux servers and doing that with Windows is a pain in the dick

# ¿ Dec 26, 2014 05:26

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

i think any hypervisor can run linux ok, but vmware still runs windows the best
hyper-v probably run windows ok, but lol at running hyper v

# ¿ Dec 29, 2014 15:23

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

tested out fedora 21 server quickly, I made a iscsi server for esxi and it ran at half the speed of centos 7
i didn't tune any settings for either of them

# ¿ Jan 14, 2015 05:11

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

this seem like the most appropriate thread

rsync on cygwin no longer sucks! I updated a server I setup in December and rsync went from <7MB/s to 105MB/s

uhh never mind it's only fast when you initiate rsync on windows, pushing from linux to windows goes at ~33MB/s

Perplx fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Mar 5, 2015

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 15:29

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

we have a no realtek policy at work

intel > broadcom > marvell > nvidia > tin cans and string > realtek

# ¿ Mar 16, 2015 18:06

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

i really want a new EdgeRouter X to replace my centos router, $50 probably faster then that p2 and you can still apt-get poo poo

https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/

# ¿ May 14, 2015 18:45

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

eric posted:

....

Linux plays games (Steam) and can open any Microsoft Office document, including Apple documents too.
....

i haven't been able to open my company's monstrous activex macro enabled .xlsx on anything but Office on x86 Windows

# ¿ May 27, 2015 18:27

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

The_Franz posted:

does it even work on anything post xp/ie6?

it works on office 2007 on xp to office 2016 on windows 10

but it doesn't work on any mac version of office, or wine
i doubt it would work on Office RT

it should be rewritten as a web app but thats not my job

# ¿ May 27, 2015 19:03

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Symbolic Butt posted:

$ yum search python3
No matches found

centos is killing me

its in epel now

yum install epel-release
yum install python34

# ¿ Oct 30, 2015 19:17

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

how is it broken besides not coming with pip?

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 17:42

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

MrMoo posted:

Oracle Linux 6.7 you can get by with 3.3:
code:
$ sudo wget -O /etc/yum.repos.d/public-yum-ol6.repo [url]http://public-yum.oracle.com/public-yum-ol6.repo[/url]
$ sudo yum install scl-utils
$ sudo yum install python33
$ scl enable python33 -- bash
$ python --version
Python 3.3.2
Without changing to Oracle RPMs one could try the RHEL/CentOS instructions for SCL

there is also iuscommunity thats maintained by rackspace, they actually have 3.5

https://iuscommunity.org/pages/Repos.html

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 20:36

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

BobHoward posted:

i am doing this on gigabit ethernet with best possible gbe latency (a single switch between local and remote). i know vnc was designed ages ago and it's poo poo but it's poo poo that actually works pretty well for my use case, when it works

with gbe bandwidth and modern compression techniques vnc can feel nearly as good as local graphics even at high resolutions, but it's fragile. easily disrupted by a bad vnc client/server combo. honestly most of the problem with vnc is the same as all other open sores: fragmented to death by multiple groups of cadt methodology devotees

i may just say gently caress it and give up on centos 7 for now, as 6 has been quite needs suiting in the past and i don't wanna spend more days fighting 7 (this was not my only issue, not by a long shot, and i suspect i'm not done either)

what about https://www.nomachine.com its still bad but better than vnc

oh and guacamole is also better than vnc even though it uses vnc

Perplx fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Nov 25, 2015

# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 14:49

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

insufferable nerds want thier knowledge lovely bash scripts to mean something
normal people want to get poo poo done reliably with maintainable code

# ¿ Apr 8, 2016 17:03

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

to be fair osx had the 3d accelerated desktop in 2001, then linux and windows got it in 2006

# ¿ May 6, 2016 18:44

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Progressive JPEG posted:

lol does nvidia even run on macs

yes they actually release a web driver like every month

# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 13:00

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

also overpriced thunderbolt enclosure havers

# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 14:00

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

uhh compiling ffmpeg isn't that hard

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 16:17

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

this really, linux on the server and in a vm or ten, but running it on the metal on a laptop/desktop is not really worth it in any way

preferably i wouldn't even run linux on bare metal, just osx and esxi

# ¿ Sep 21, 2016 21:37

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

last week i fixed a crashing iscsi server by upgrading stock centos 7 to 4.4.44 from elrepo, it was messed up

# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 19:23

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

quote not edit

# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 19:23

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Roargasm posted:

you sure your multipath wasn't hosed up and you just blew away the bad config

i'm not using multipath (i know single point of failure), the config was unchanged i just yum install'ed kernel-ml

# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 22:07

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

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code:

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0 updates are security updates.

I like silicon valley too but come on

# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 19:45

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

VikingofRock posted:

Yeah but most distributions use python 2, like suckers

still better than bash

i had to write a batch monstrosity and had to loving port it from Cygwin to linux because "sort" and "ls" behaved differently

the script shouldn't of been written in bash at all but thats what my boss wanted, i would have wrote in half the time in python with half the code and no dependancies (the script needed xmlstarlet and unix2dos)

# ¿ Oct 12, 2017 21:06

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

John Big Booty posted:

Your boss is a monster and should be destroyed.

well he quit last week and im applying for his job

other than his bash fetish he was great and i miss him alot

# ¿ Oct 13, 2017 13:50

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

more like vyos

# ¿ Dec 13, 2017 15:06

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Soricidus posted:

actually I just use unzip or tar xf as appropriate, because I�m not terrified of computers, but nice try

the correct behaviour for an intuitive gui is what windows does for zip files, though: treat archives as folders you can just browse into and copy stuff out of if you want. simple, transparent, never accidentally leaves a million unwanted files scattered across your home directory

the even more correct behaviour is to not use archives but to use mountable disk images with compression, a zip file is basically a dmg that can't be mounted natively* (what windows does is a hack)

# ¿ Dec 14, 2017 15:14

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

*manipulates strings inside a loop, spawns 10000 processes*

ahh now thats the elegance of unix

# ¿ Jan 31, 2018 16:53

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Suspicious Dish posted:

linus doesn't understand why changing the time/timezone requires a system password? lol.

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Kerberos-Infrastructure-HOWTO/time-sync.html

changing the time should probably need root. changing the timezone shouldn't

# ¿ Feb 9, 2018 23:17

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

microsoft azure networking is not professional then

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-ca/blog/sonic-the-networking-switch-software-that-powers-the-microsoft-global-cloud/

# ¿ Jun 5, 2018 18:40

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# ¿ Mar 16, 2025 06:53

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

eschaton posted:

enjoy having unencrypted bits and pieces of poo poo you�d prefer to be encrypted scattered around

and impossible to zero out/scramble thanks to SSD wear leveling

you can never let bits touch the substrate if you want them to remain secure

the ssd problem will eventually go away with microsoft denali, assuming it will get to consumers
basically the ssd is just raw nand and software/off drive fpga handles all the wear leveling

https://www.servethehome.com/microsoft-project-denali-game-changer-flash-storage-at-scale/

# ¿ Jun 5, 2018 18:53

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