Linux: freedom of choice, but if you choose wrong we'll be totally assholes about support

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trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

I tried out elementaryOS last night on my daughter's old Acer netbook. It actually runs decent on a machine with only a gig of RAM. Serious needs suiting going on there.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2014 01:44

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# ¿ May 23, 2025 15:10

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

keyvin posted:

Lol, quality shell scripting there gabe.

steam.sh : 467
code:
        # Scary!
        rm -rf "$STEAMROOT/"*
I am jack's utter lack of checking that the environment variable is set before running that command.

I got burned by using variables like that in a shell script. They should be like this now: ${STEAMROOT}

Also, Fedora server is absolute trash, just like Fedora desktop.

# ¿ Jan 16, 2015 00:50

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

There Will Be Penalty posted:

that would not have solved the problem

but it is a good practice i guess

Oh yeah, agreed. I just meant the practice in general should be used by anyone writing shell scripts.

# ¿ Jan 16, 2015 18:14

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Cocoa Crispies posted:

linux is a repugnant piece of poo poo, but at least he's honest about it

# ¿ Jan 16, 2015 20:11

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i see this technical commentary from a jvm performance engineer came from a woman who isn't a 20-something model

clearly it should be held up for mockery instead of considered as a serious industry endorsement

More that she stole Apple's tag line. I don't care what she looks like.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2015 00:15

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Can you still get Slackware 1.0?

# ¿ Nov 20, 2015 18:26

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

terminals and shells have rolled backwards. xterm is less good than a vt520. bash is less good than ksh93.

when it came time to modernize, and re-do 1970s tty infrastructure for window systems, people only implemented what users asked for. nobody really needed the crazy features in a vt520 or ksh93. licensing and ease of implementation turned out to be a lot more important than the features dreamed up by commercial entities of the 1980s.

Wasn't there a VT420 terminal program for X11 a while back? I remember using it for our VAX systems.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 19:01

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

2 days into using Fedora 24 in a VM. Have to say out of all of the other distros I tried (I even tried Gentoo, lol), this one is the most polished. I would even recommend it to my Mom, except she needs Windows for TurboTax.

# ¿ Jun 23, 2016 20:02

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Endless Mike posted:

I wanted it for setup. not so necessary now.

Edit your /etc/inittab and change that bitch to runlevel 3.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 23:42

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Do you still have to get those weird wrapper drivers for wireless cards? I remember my wireless didn't work unless I downloaded a wrapper or some goofy poo poo like that.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 18:05

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

hifi posted:

just connected the dots that tmux has 24 bit color support so the rest of my terminal should too

Any major advantage of using tmux over screen?

# ¿ Feb 1, 2018 22:03

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

cinci zoo sniper posted:

one of our production devops guys uses init.d scripts on a system with systemd services

Don't most systemd system still support the "service <blah> start" syntax and redirect to systemctl? Is that going to go away at some point?

# ¿ Mar 7, 2018 23:13

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Tankakern posted:

i don't think that's an actual part of systemd, just a shell script included with debian/ubuntu

Ahhh, OK. So I'm guessing that shell script will be deprecated and the sad fucks who didn't adopt proper systemd usage are hosed.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2018 23:55

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Anyone give Deepin a try? I see that they released 15.10 recently.

I recently upgraded to Fedora 30 KDE spin, enjoying it so far, but looking at the visuals and codebase (Debian) for Deepin, it looks like an awesome distro.

# ¿ May 3, 2019 22:01

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Corla Plankun posted:

i started with ubuntu server if that helps

ubuntu seems good to me if you rip out all the gui stuff

I sure do love their new way to set static IP addresses in the latest Ubuntu Server. JFC, could they make it anymore obscure and bizarre?

# ¿ May 20, 2019 18:32

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Soricidus posted:

well don�t leave us hanging, share the horror

it�s fine in 18.04, you just add the address to your netplan file. lol at using a non-lts os on a server

I think the netplan.yaml file that's what most off-putting by it. It used to be:

1. Edit /etc/network/interfaces
2. Save, reboot or restart networking and you're done.

Now it's:

1. Edit the netplan.yaml file or generate one if it wasn't done during install.

2. Make sure the format of every line in this file is perfect or it can't be parsed.

3. Netplan apply and pray it works, or troubleshoot where said formatting was not correct.

I dunno, it'll get easier as I do it more, it just seems more hassle than the previous method.

# ¿ May 20, 2019 22:34

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Soricidus posted:

so it�s exactly the same as before:

1. edit a text file
2. run a command to apply the changes

sure, you have to know which file to edit and which command to run, and the command won�t work unless you edit the file correctly, but it was always like that. the old way wasn�t any more intuitive. familiar != better

From what I found out, if you don't indent properly, the poo poo doesn't work. I guess what I want to know is why Cannoical decided to go with netplan over the old networking stuff? Seems like a case of don't fix it if it ain't broke, but maybe I'm missing something.

# ¿ May 20, 2019 23:48

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# ¿ May 23, 2025 15:10

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Shaggar posted:

osx is based on Linux which is open sores and thus free. nobody should pay for osx especially not for osx on an apple computer than is slower than dirt.

Isn't it based off of BSD?

# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 20:37

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