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I don't really see YOSPOS as an apple echo chamber as much as just spewing bile on every OS. The funny thing is, in my opinion, is that Google's Chromebook might be the true Linux desktop. The masses will all have one of them, running web apps or chromebook apps or whatever. It will run the Linux kernel, but will not have any of the so-called "user freedoms" that RMS dearly wants. And users won't care. Except the jailbreaking bunch. Fix the internet access issue and maybe 2016 will be the year of the Linux desktop.
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pseudorandom name posted:pointer barriers should make it Just Work™ in multi-monitor configurations That's what that action is called? "Pointer barriers"? I thought it was cursor hotspots or mouse ticklers or ... I hope the computer industry agrees on a common nomenclature for this stuff... Does anyone know how to turn it off?
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Back to desktop computing: btrfs, the hot new filesystem that takes journaling to the extreme, doesn't support swap files (but you can create a loop device on a file and use that, but I don't think that would work with kdump). With the rate of btrfs adoption in default desktop installs, I don't think we're gonna get dynamic swapfiles anytime soon. Personally, I think just having one or two gigs of swap space and reacting if the desktop is dog slow is the best solution.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:57
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ZShakespeare posted:If you absolutely must use Linux because you're an idiot like me, it really depends on how much janitoring you want to do: What of RHEL and Fedora? Or just run your own (or someone else's) bespoke buildroot installation and never update because you'd have to wade in there and compile everything over again.
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At the risk of outing myself as an ubuntu user, I'd like to point out that there's always the annoying "ready to login" and "logging in the user" sounds that are super annoying but not annoying enough for me to actually go and change it. I usually just leave my headphones off until well after I login, when I actually start some music.
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Dec 27, 2014 06:31
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Captain Pike posted:I read that whole thing and I didn't understand a word of it I read that whole thing and I'm glad he's on a farm and not touching systems level software anymore.
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Dec 31, 2014 22:33
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One of my drives had a weird error on btrfs on every other boot which forced me to go into single user mode. Turns out that it just needs to recalculate free space or something. Since it was a drive that I didn't write to, I just have it mounted read-only on boot, fixes everything. I'm going to replace that whole computer with Centos 7 and XFS. I think XFS will convince the world that Linux is ready for the Desktop.
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Jan 8, 2015 23:02
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carry on then posted:so is the next ubuntu the one with the ~*~revolutionary new display server~*~ or did that get canceled or what Wikipedia entry on Mir posted:In March 2014, Mark Shuttleworth confirmed that Mir development had been delayed and that it was now forecast to be default for desktop use in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, expected to be released in April 2016. So, I guess, just close out 2015 now and just focus on making 2016 YOLOTD?
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eschaton posted:just installed Ubuntu 14.10 on my Haiku PC to do Edison cross-development Run Xubuntu or CentOS Gnome Classic.
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pram posted:its true. ubuntu is a pos
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Jan 23, 2015 04:12
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cthulhoo posted:2015: the year of java on the handheld
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Jan 23, 2015 10:21
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lowtax should replace the html with a java app that lets you telnet directly to the forums server and post using a curses interface. Even better, lowtax should open a phone bank and have people call into the forms. 2015 year of the forums over 56k
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Anyone remember that one mod that let you configure the kernel using a text adventure engine? Bring it back - the future of the desktop is 80x25.
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Jan 23, 2015 10:32
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Subjunctive posted:Sun was encrypting the source drops I got from them in 1997, so probably not no. is BSD talking about the specifications and not the implementation?
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theadder posted:he incorrectly read the wiki close thread only when linux is on the desktop
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:java has always had source available, since the first day i touched it. the 1996 date came from the first "blackdown java" release: non-Sun coders ported java to linux without Sun's help are we going to start splitting hairs and differentiating between the base java api and the virtual machine or are we going to argue about what the definition of open source is either way this is a good way to start the weekend
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pram posted:Windowmaker unironically and ironically owns WindowMaker was my wm in the noughts but Gnome was OK enough to use in the past few years. I'm getting used to Gnome 3 but it's the same attitude I took with Windows 8 - might as well get used to it now, even though the old mechanism is much better. I'd use WindowMaker more but I need that networkmanager and volume manager integration or else I have to figure out how to do it in the command line and I don't want to touch command line networkmanager until I'm good and ready.
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Does anyone else think that the new debian "resolvconf" thing is a bunch of steaming crap? How do you ask it what its current configuration is? I'd be OK with systemd booting it to the curb.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:kde exists and is not a featureless tablet-optimized pile of weird I've never seriously considered the KDE desktop because of the trillions of additional dependencies and the tendency to duplicate everything that gnome desktop already provides. But this is from using it over a decade ago, so maybe I'll give it another shot.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:17
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Lysidas posted:same but windows The start bar, much like the mcrib, is back. With a few changes, of course. Maybe windows 11 will kill it again and replace it with the start screen and windows 12 will bring it back, but with yet another twist, like having it appear on a nearby surface with AR and you have to select your application by pointing at your desk instead of just using the mouse and keyboard like the good old days. And Gnome will continue to pander to touch screens in 2016 even though the only linux based computers with touchscreens at that time would be smartphones and android tablets.
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Do you remember when bluetooth headsets first came out and people seemed to be yelling at no one in particular and you thought they were crazy? Imagine what the office is gonna look like in 2020 when you need to point to an error in a document but you're looking at the document in google glass or that microsoft thing and you don't have the integration set-up working with your co-worker and the two of you are pointing everywhere in mid-air trying to fix settings and a third party is just "smdh why is everyone crazy" I guess in google glass you just point your pupils every which way and tap your head, which may or may not be worse, I dunno.
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I see gnome developers and other linux desktop people as being from north carolina, since that's where Red Hat is headquartered. Unless it's a big web services company (google, twitter, facebook), I don't really associate an open source workplace to actually be in the california bay area.
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january's almost over - we need a timeline for linux on the desktop people while windows 8 is still rear end we can build momentum and make it happen a nation of ubuntu and red hat computers, vulnerable to a remote code exploit from looking up an ip address
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Multitouch on my asus laptop works just fine. In fact, everything on my asus laptop works fine under Linux, even suspend. The only issue is that if you connect an external monitor, do some work, and disconnect the external monitor, and lock the laptop, and go into suspend... when you wake up the laptop, the screen isn't locked anymore. I could file a bug report on gnome shell but I'm too lazy and it's ubuntu gnome so whelp
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The successor to classic and fallback is Flashback. It's not bad. I'm using both flashback and gnome shell and I'm about to ditch shell entirely.
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Happy Belated Birthday, thread! One year of linux-talk. Let's keep at it and bring Linux to every desktop! (linux smartphones on the desk is about as far as it'll go)
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2nding the LVM love here. Lightyears better than msdos partitions and better than gpt if you don't mind the abstraction. Absolutely essential if you're using raid or encryption (except for removable storage). Why bother putting a single filesystem on a raid 1 or encrypted storage when you can divy it up? Having said that, if I had a friend ask me about trying out linux for any reason, I'd advise them to opt out of LVM if possible and just enable it later. Just create a 1 GB boot, 4 GB swap and the rest for root. Besides, last I checked (2012?) lubuntu (or was that xubuntu?) doesn't support it in install anyway.
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I tried to use a combination of LVM over RAID 1 on a fresh CentOS 7 install and I remember having to create the raid device outside of the partitioning program. It was very sad. Whoever is changing the install process for RHEL 7 should stop writing code and actually try to use it.
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filesystem chat Who is using XFS on all of their new installs? Is it ready for the desktop?
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ZShakespeare posted:yeah I can't defend that garbage just use thunderbird.
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I love how evolution keeps a process in memory to do database lookups that stays in memory after evolution quits or even after the user logs out. So, when the process craps out (once every week) it is easier to tell someone over the phone to reboot their computer rather than search their process list and type "kill 4472". Either that, or go without ldap autocomplete, but with the recent high frequency of kernel updates (which necessitates a reboot anyway) the issue has magically gone away. Actually, we've just dumped it in favor of Thunderbird since it reliably handles calendars now.
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Silver Alicorn posted:2015 year of linux on the server
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SERVER TALK Let's talk about backups! When will Open Source write something as good as Time Machine? Who still uses Amanda? Has anyone actually ever used deja dup?
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babies havin rabies posted:isn't rdiff-backup and rdiff-backup-fs basically the same thing? granted i've never used that for anything approaching a large amount of data, seems to work well enough though The GUI is really nice and the restore service is seamless, especially moving to new computers. Other than that the actual nitty gritty of the on-disk format and etc is nothing new.
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cthulhoo posted:why yes i need a rabbitmq to ~properly~ manage my .muttrc in a scalable fashion on my poo poo localhost fedora for im not some scrub bitch but a Enterprise Admin 4 users of duplicity in this thread. Deja dup is very fire-and-forget and I've backed up a lot of systems with it but I've never actually tried restoring anything. Lysidas posted:my machines all take btrfs snapshots on boot and i use incremental `btrfs send` to replicate them elsewhere, either an external disk or a private area of my file server at home Actual btrfs champions here. Do you use it on Ubuntu?
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atomicthumbs posted:i am planning to switch my web server vps from ubuntu server, which it's been running since 2013, to centos, and upgrade it from 256mb to 512mb of ram. i'm also planning to switch from apache to nginx Stick with ubuntu if it works for you, but if you really want to go CentOS then it's like other people have said - yum instead of apt-get. CentOS 7 also comes with systemd which also takes care of service starting/stopping... if you used tools like update-rc.d then that will change too. CM (configuration management) is cool and all but unless your career is in computers (janitoring or otherwise) you don't need to learn it.
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pram posted:no one is saying 'dont learn cm' you dunce I am. Well, kinda. But really, you just need to document your installation steps instead of learning puppet or chef or whatever. EDIT: If your career is in computers you should learn proper CM. It's a judgement call otherwise.
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2015 year of consumer friendly Linux CJing
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Captain Foo posted:he's talking about
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I'm in for one of the deluxe versions. Can't wait! Are you involved with the hardware designs in any way? Is the device going to be "repairable" in any fashion? Of course, it's nonsensical to expect people to debug a broken logic board and replace aging capacitors, but is stuff like the eMMC chip replaceable? What do you expect the final development environment to reasonably support? Only C++/Gnome? Java? Python? Comedy option Javascript? EDIT: Looks like one of your linked repositories is the kernel. One step closer to turning this baby into yet another XBMC device... celeron 300a fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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