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So according to this article the Iraqi government forces dropped paratroopers on Tikrit university? Seems pretty hardcore.
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Syncopated posted:So according to this article the Iraqi government forces dropped paratroopers on Tikrit university? Seems pretty hardcore. Should have done the same thing to the entire University of California system during OWS.
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Jun 28, 2014 21:12
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That NYT military healthcare expose.. 
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Jun 28, 2014 21:13
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If this isn't opsec: The advisers in Iraq atm, are they SF, or what?
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Jun 28, 2014 21:26
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Snowdens Secret posted:The point of the deal isn't to get the planes, it's to kiss up to the Russians. I thought that was what selling secrets to Red China was for.
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Jun 28, 2014 21:31
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Jonad posted:I thought that was what selling secrets to Red China was for. Selling secrets gets you surprisingly little street cred. I mean, c'mon, that's the kind of thing an Israeli would do Syncopated posted:If this isn't opsec: The advisers in Iraq atm, are they SF, or what? At least officially, yes, and this is at least in part because politically sending in SF somehow is different and less 'boots on the ground' than using regular shmoes. See all the SF running around Central Africa, and this is also why SF has gotten relatively enormous over the past decade or so, as they get used for everything more demanding than IED sweeps and gate guarding. If you're asking who's actually over there / who's heading that way, I don't know and beyond internet search don't know how to find out
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Jun 28, 2014 22:07
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Obama Africanus posted:That NYT military healthcare expose.. The best part of that is it only covered inpatient care, it didn't even touch the absolutely abysmally bad outpatient care happening at the aid station level.
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Jun 28, 2014 22:52
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I bet m0t knows. He's probably been read on and re-poly'd. He's distributing zero day rickroll malware in ISIS's budgeting and accounting computers. He'll tell you all about it when the virginia class he's hacking the World Cup from comes up for air and to download the 300+ erotic emails sent by IDR to that retards official .blackops.mil.readon.CIS e-mail.
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Jun 28, 2014 22:55
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What happens if you're active duty and purchase private health care, don't use the VA? It sounds magnificently hosed up as a system, how would they know you got competent and timely care, what repercussions could there be? I guess the premiums would be way more than most people could afford after their spousal/child support/sick Dodge with a Hemi at 19% payments
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Jun 28, 2014 23:51
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maffew buildings posted:What happens if you're active duty and purchase private health care, don't use the VA? It sounds magnificently hosed up as a system, how would they know you got competent and timely care, what repercussions could there be? I guess the premiums would be way more than most people could afford after their spousal/child support/sick Dodge with a Hemi at 19% payments You have to use TRICARE by law. Your command doesn't ever have to give you the time to utilize private healthcare, ever, unless it's being sought through TRICARE / Your military medical providers. I know of a guy getting VA care for mental health stuff on active duty, so his active duty people don't find out. It's a weird he's been on active duty for like 6 years thing but he's not active duty yadda yadda he's in the reserves or some poo poo. Anyway, dude developed a real problem with incest porn addiction, and instead of losing his job by going to the mil he went to the VA to get help when his wife made him lol. He don't got no kids so I'm thinking he's just weird. Or whatever. So he goes to the VA on like alternating evenings to get group therapy for sexual counseling or some poo poo lol. I get all this second hand but it's funny as gently caress.
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Jun 29, 2014 00:18
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How do we get you in front of Congress
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Jun 29, 2014 01:04
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Nobody gives a poo poo about the troops in any meaningful way, so it ain't happening.
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Jun 29, 2014 01:41
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The gently caress is wrong with incest porn addiction
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Jun 29, 2014 01:49
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I think we're trailing a bit off. Let's steer this thread back towards current events and not incest porn. VVVVVVVVVVV oh poo poo buttplug is gonna get triggered hard. In seriousness, that is loving hilarious and good for the kurds if they can finally get their own piece of land after all this poo poo is said and done. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jun 29, 2014 |
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Jun 29, 2014 02:00
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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/28/world/meast/iraq-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Jun 29, 2014 02:04
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There's rumblings that Turkey is open to the idea of a Kurdistan on their border and they've grown increasingly closer to Barzani and Co. so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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Jun 29, 2014 02:18
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I wonder if they'd make the kurds move out of the region they occupy in Turkey for that to happen. Either way it's nice that the Kurds aren't being poo poo on for once
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Jun 29, 2014 02:59
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A buffer between Turkey and the poo poo storm that will be Iraq probably has it's appeal. Maybe they get a client state out of the deal.
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Jun 29, 2014 03:34
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Bolow posted:I wonder if they'd make the kurds move out of the region they occupy in Turkey for that to happen. Either way it's nice that the Kurds aren't being poo poo on for once The idea may be that the really nationalist Kurds will go voluntarily and the ones that don't give a poo poo will stay in Turkey. But who the gently caress even knows what Erdogan is thinking at this point, the man probably thinks he's the reincarnation of Suleiman I at this point. In other news, the ISF has launched a counter-offensive to recapture Tikrit. Both sides have claimed victory. E: Looks like they fell short of the town itself but at least managed to put up a fight. Also apparently the ISF airlifted special forces to Baiji and have recaptured the immediate facility, although they remain completely surrounded by ISIS and friends. Constant Hamprince fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jun 29, 2014 |
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Jun 29, 2014 03:42
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LongDarkNight posted:A buffer between Turkey and the poo poo storm that will be Iraq probably has it's appeal. Maybe they get a client state out of the deal. That, and part of their Kurdish problem will relocate itself across the border. Jonad posted:E: Looks like they fell short of the town itself but at least managed to put up a fight. Also apparently the ISF airlifted special forces to Baiji and have recaptured the immediate facility, although they remain completely surrounded by ISIS and friends. Things like this are why I'm pretty sure we're going to end up running airstrikes into Iraq sooner rather than later.
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Jun 29, 2014 04:19
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So delivery of their F-16's were taking too long, so they decide to switch to a completely different platform? Hope you paid for some old Soviet mercenaries to fly them for you as well.
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Jun 29, 2014 15:22
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Malaki is just setting up his exit strategy. He's going to allow Russian corporations/mercenaries free reign in Iraq and will quietly disappear to some part of the Russian federation when it all falls apart.
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Jun 29, 2014 15:36
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@Charles_Lister: ISIS' chief spokesman Abu Mohammed al-Adnani has announced the ‘restoration of the caliphate’ w. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as Emir al-Muminin. So...
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Jun 29, 2014 16:36
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Good. Let the people over there loving deal with it. I can't wait to hear how this is Obama's fault in the morning.
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Jun 29, 2014 16:58
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As long as we stop them before they sack Constantinople this time around.
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Jun 29, 2014 17:22
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Obligatory that's nobody's business but the Turks joke
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Crosspost from the D&D Middle East thread: Here's the relevant part of the Islamic State's English press release: quote:Therefore, the shūrā (consultation) council of the Islamic State studied this matter after the Islamic State For the TLDR crowd: 1. ISIS' shura council believes that the legal conditions regarding the establishment of a Caliphate have been met. 2. "Ibrāhīm Ibn ‘Awwād Ibn Ibrāhīm Ibn ‘Alī Ibn Muhammad al-Badrī al-Hāshimī al-Husaynī al-Qurashī" is the name of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, who is now the leader of the Ummah (global community of Muslims, particularly the Sunnis.) 3. All Muslims are required to pledge bay'ah (allegiance) to him. 4. ISIS has dropped the last "IS" from its name- it's now just the Islamic State. This is Serious Business, and it's really going to be interesting to see how all of the other jihadist groups (i.e. Al-Qaeda Central, AQAP, JN, etc) react to this. Baghdadi et al just threw down the gauntlet, let's see who picks it up. Edit: Another relevant bit- quote:As for you, O soldiers of the platoons and organizations, know that after this consolidation and the IS also just declared that every other jihadist group is now beholden to them. pantslesswithwolves fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Jun 29, 2014 |
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Jun 29, 2014 17:31
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Vengarr posted:As long as we stop them before they sack Constantinople this time around. Only if they get there before the Italians do.
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Jun 29, 2014 17:35
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gently caress YEAH! HOLY WAR! Time to sew a crucifix onto all my shirts.
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Jun 29, 2014 19:06
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Time to sack Jerusalem again.
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Jun 29, 2014 19:10
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so vas has been learning to play a pipe in leiu of posting? makes sense
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Jun 29, 2014 19:20
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gleep gloop posted:gently caress YEAH! HOLY WAR! Time to sew a crucifix onto all my shirts. No! You see, Islam is a religion of peace and this is just a strange extreme event, not at all like the very founding and continuous history of Muslims until someone beats them back from their border. Bring back Sax Offender fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 29, 2014 |
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Jun 29, 2014 19:31
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Derek Dominoe posted:Bring back Ferdinand and Isabella. Please don't
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Jun 29, 2014 19:32
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Snowdens Secret posted:Please don't Lol
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Jun 29, 2014 19:41
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Godholio posted:Nobody gives a poo poo about the troops in any meaningful way, so it ain't happening.
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Jun 29, 2014 19:55
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Snowdens Secret posted:Please don't Hey if you want to make a freedom omelet you gotta be willing to break a few Zweigs.
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Jun 29, 2014 19:56
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Will be pretty funny if this new Caliph gets bombed by a drone, then what would they do?
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Whip Slagcheek posted:There's rumblings that Turkey is open to the idea of a Kurdistan  But seriously, someone probably looked at a map ane realized there's a lot of kurds between the turks and arabs/persians. So a Kurdistan between them and  E: Bibi to the rescue  http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.601997 quote:For the TLDR crowd: Out of curiosity, what would these "legal conditions" be? Courthouse fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jun 29, 2014 |
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Jun 29, 2014 20:33
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All purchases of new Caliphates come with complimentary drone strikes.
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Courthouse posted:
You have to hold 3 of 5 provinces, have gavelkind succession and pay 250 gold
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