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Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Truly a heroic blow for free peoples everywhere by Edward Snowden.

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Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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If I recall it's actually causing concrete problems for much of the Russian population as well, since if they're with a Russian bank on the sanction list then their credit cards stop working.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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That is actually kind of worrying. Exactly how well can economic pressure work on a bunch of crazy motherfuckers? Obviously it would devastate a rational government filled with rational actors but these guys aren't exactly acting rationally.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Godholio posted:

Oh really? How are coming to that conclusion? Because so far this seems to be working REALLY loving well.

Because the official Russian reaction so far has been "apply more sanctions motherfuckers." That isn't the conduct of a rational government, especially BECAUSE we know the sanctions are working. The rational thing to do would be to seek rapprochement with the west and do whatever you can to defuse the crisis, but instead they're doubling down on the neo-Stalinist pan-Eurasianism.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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At the same time the Japanese are worried that the US wouldn't respond militarily if the Chinese opted to seize, say, the Senkaku's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/06/world/asia/us-response-to-crimea-worries-japanese-leaders.html?hp

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TOKYO — When President Bill Clinton signed a 1994 agreement promising to “respect” the territorial integrity of Ukraine if it gave up its nuclear weapons, there was little thought then of how that obscure diplomatic pact — called the Budapest Memorandum — might affect the long-running defense partnership between the United States and Japan.

But now, as American officials have distanced themselves from the Budapest Memorandum in light of Russia’s takeover of Crimea, calling promises made in Budapest “nonbinding,” the United States is being forced at the same time to make reassurances in Asia. Japanese officials, a senior American military official said, “keep asking, ‘Are you going to do the same thing to us when something happens?’ ”

For Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, who arrived in Tokyo on Saturday for two days of talks with Japan’s leaders, including Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, America’s longstanding promise to protect Japan against hostile nations (read: China and North Korea) has suddenly come under the microscope. The American response to the Russian takeover of Crimea, which President Obama has condemned while at the same time ruling out American military action, has caused deep concern among already skittish Japanese officials.

“The Crimea is a game-changer,” said Kunihiko Miyake, a former adviser to Mr. Abe who is now research director at the Canon Institute for Global Studies in Tokyo. “This is not fire on a distant shore for us. What is happening is another attempt by a rising power to change the status quo.” As an example, he pointed to China’s challenge to Japanese control of the Senkaku Islands, the uninhabited rocks in the East China Sea that Beijing claims under the name Diaoyu Islands.

One Japanese official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity, “We are just looking for a commitment from the American side.”

Obama administration officials say they stand by the American commitment to protect Japan, while refraining from explicitly stating that the United States would intervene militarily in the Senkakus dispute.

“There is no indication or weakness on the part of the United States as to our complete and absolute commitment to the security of Japan,” Mr. Hagel said, speaking to reporters aboard his flight to Japan.

“We will make that again clear over the next two weeks,” he added, referring to his own meetings with the Japanese as well as Mr. Obama’s planned trip to the region later this month.

Upon landing at Yokota Air Base just outside Tokyo to speak to a group of American and Japanese troops, Mr. Hagel said he was in Japan to reaffirm America’s “continued commitment to our partnership, our friendship and our treaty obligations.”

“We are serious about that,” he said.

A Defense Department official traveling with Mr. Hagel pointed on Saturday to the mutual security treaty between the United States and Japan as proof that the United States would protect Japan if necessary. “There is absolutely no wavering,” he said.

But in meetings over the last few weeks, Obama administration officials said, Japanese officials have been seeking reassurances that the security treaty will apply to the Senkakus.

Last year, China set off a trans-Pacific uproar when it declared that an “air defense identification zone” gave it the right to identify and possibly take military action against aircraft near the islands. Japan refused to recognize China’s claim, and the United States has been defying China ever since by sending military planes into the zone unannounced, even as the Obama administration advised American commercial airlines to comply with China’s demand and notify Beijing in advance of flights.

The chief of staff of the Japanese military’s joint staff, Gen. Shigeru Iwasaki, met on Thursday with Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in Washington to discuss security concerns. The two men “addressed geopolitical trends in the Asia-Pacific region and the need to strengthen the alliance’s deterrence and response capability,” the Pentagon said after the meeting on Thursday.

American officials say there is a wealth of difference between Ukraine and Japan, and between Crimea and the Senkakus. What is more, they say, there is a big difference between the Budapest Memorandum and the mutual security treaty with Japan that was signed in 1952 and that has redefined American-Japanese relations in the 60 years since.

The treaty, which also provides for the continued presence of American military bases in Japan, establishes that any attack against Japan would require the United States to respond. The Budapest Memorandum, by contrast, simply refers to security assurances for Ukraine that are not defined, and have been widely interpreted as less than a military guarantee of intervention.

Still, some Japanese analysts said the American response to the Crimea crisis had not inspired confidence. They expressed fears that the Obama administration’s trumpeted strategic refocus on Asia, which was welcomed here, will weaken as the United States commits more forces to counterbalance Russia in Eastern Europe.

“The Crimea makes us feel uneasy about whether the United States has not only the resolve but the strength to stop China,” said Satoru Nagao, an expert on security issues at Gakushuin University in Tokyo. “Between the Pentagon budget cuts, and the need to put more forces in Europe, can the United States still offer a credible deterrence?”

Specifically, some analysts said they feared China might feel emboldened by the American response to Crimea to try something similar in Senkaku/Diaoyu.

So far, Japanese policy makers have refrained from openly criticizing the United States for failing to sufficiently address Japanese concerns.

“Japanese diplomats absolutely won’t say this in public for fear of hurting the alliance,” said Akio Takahata, a professor of security issues at Hakuoh University near Tokyo, “but they will air their concerns behind closed doors, for sure.”

Japanese experts said Mr. Hagel, and also Mr. Obama when he visits Tokyo later this month, might be pressed for not only verbal assurances, but also some sort of symbolic action to show that America would handle a crisis in the East China Sea differently from the one in Crimea. Some analysts and former policy makers were blunt in saying that a failure to come to Japan’s aid in a clash over the Senkakus/Diaoyu islands could spell the end of the two nations’ postwar alliance.

“If Japan is attacked, and the Americans decline to respond, then it is time from the Americans to pull out” of their bases here, Mr. Miyake said. “Without those bases, America is not going to be a Pacific power anymore. America knows that.”

It bears noting however that the American alliance with Japan is far more important than anything Ukraine offers, and far more relevant to American interests.

It should also be kept in mind that Japanese conservatives have been looking for any excuse they can find to rearm and get an power-projection military plus nukes, so this could simply be them seizing on the opportunity to push that.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Whip Slagcheek posted:

So because much of the western world demilitarized that makes them not idiots? lol. I want to live in this fanciful world where's there's no external threats or destabilizers that could ever appear. I stand by my assertion that if you cede your security to another country you're an idiot.

What if you're Canada?

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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LimburgLimbo posted:

Actually in all seriousness so many people misinterpret that title. The last samurai are the Japanese dudes Tom Cruise is with; Japanese doesn't have pluralization like English so even when you're talking about multiple samurai you wouldn't say "samurais".

There are some people who know that and are just making a joke, but I've met a number of people who literally thought the title meant Tom Cruise was the last of the samurai.

Well then the title should've been "The Last of the Samurai" :colbert:

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Snowdens Secret posted:

Looks like the Russians have moved into East Ukraine. Coordinated attacks on government buildings in multiple cities, by the same 'little green men' in matched uniforms with expensive new gear as in Crimea. Reports of seizures of armories and key rail depots.

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/454936795541553152/photo/1

https://twitter.com/NiBeroeva/status/455026227527442432/photo/1

They're also apparently going after journalists and taking / wiping memory cards, for what that's worth.

Here's Michael McFaul (US recent ex-ambassador to Russia)'s Twitter, he thinks it's the Rus:

https://twitter.com/McFaul/statuses/455048876559314944

Obviously no one has officially said they're Russians yet, but this ambiguity was maintained in Crimea until the referendum.

What's the endgame here? The Russians just move in tanks and helicopters and annex eastern Ukraine as well? What possible benefit is there to them doing so? I can at least see Crimea as a consolation prize for losing Kiev since it has strategic value and whatnot but eastern Ukraine is just a big hunk of land and seizing it by force does not seem to benefit Russia in any way aside from making people hate them even more.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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So the Russian economy, whose growth went down from 4.3% to 1.3% from 2011 to 2013, might go into a depression this year if the past three months are any indication. Particularly if Putin makes a move on Eastern Ukraine which will bring more sanctions.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Soylent Pudding posted:

Isn't Canada legit worried about Russian power projection and claiming of the undersea Arctic?

Worried is a relative term. The Russians are less a security risk and more a risk to perceived territorial integrity in the Arctic, which is something the current government has prioritized and was one of the reasons Harper wanted the F-35. Nobody is worried about Russians marching down from the North Pole like they're a bunch of white walkers, the government is more worried that Russians will fly over/sail through Canadian waters and it'll be humiliating if we can't feasibly do anything to stop them.

I think I've said before that in Tom Clancy world if there was an actual Russian incursion into the Canadian arctic the Canadian strategy is to call in the Americans.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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China is trying to change the status quo in Asia by bumping its boats into the boats of its neighbours?

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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I happen to know that my DNA is at least 1/5300th African so I can use whatever slurs I want.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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I'd love to see the trigger warnings to be associated with history classes.

"Trigger warning: literally everything."

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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genderstomper58 posted:

Haha maybe I'm like a patriotic human being or whatever but the 9/11 museum seems all sorts of messed up. It costs 24 bucks to visit, has a gift shop where you can buy overpriced poo poo like 9/11 mugs and scarves, and they held a VIP party last night inside the museum which also contains over 1,000 people's remains(I don't know why they put them there tbh tho)

A tribute to capitalism and decadence seems like a pretty appropriate gently caress you to al qaeda imo

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

gently caress that

i dont want life to be wiped out by nukes

i want some natural poo poo like a meteor to wreck humanity's poo poo

something that really points out that people are loving worthless garbage that cant even wipe ourselves out

The time for that seems to have passed since we're pretty confident we could deflect an asteroid now.

It should've taken the shot back in like 1800.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

id like to see em try

It's actually not that hard since all you have to do is nudge it a few inches and it'll miss by longshot.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Dead Reckoning posted:

Good thing we're de-funding NASA and their near earth object tracking program.

I'm sure the Russians and Chinese can pahahahahaha

Sorry couldn't finish.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Snowdens Secret posted:

More seriously:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/26/world/asia/china-japan-jets-scramble/


The article also obliquely mentions how, after China set up their questionably legal air defense identification zone, the US made a show of buzzing it with unarmed B-52s, but doesn't mention that since then we've quietly redirected traffic around it, and that US-based civilian traffic has been following the new identification and traffic rules the Chinese set up.

I heard that civilian traffic was being redirected but the USAF still routinely flew through it unannounced.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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quote:

In some cases, Dallaire had already assigned soldiers to guard key officials but that did little good. Ghanaian troops had been posted at the home of Lando Ndasingwa, the only Tutsi in the Hutu government and doubtless a target for extremists. But when the Rwandan presidential guard burst into Ndasingwa’s home, his Ghanaian protectors fled out the back. Ndasingwa, his Montreal-born wife, Helen, their children, Malaika, 17, and Patrick, 15, and Ndasingwa’s mother, Bibiane Nyiratulira, were then executed with gunshots to the head. A UN official would later claim the Ghanaians fled because they had been outnumbered and could do little. But Ndasingwa’s sister, Louise, wonders why they at least didn’t try to take the children with them.

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That same night another contingent of Ghanaian troops stood guard at the home of Joseph Kavaruganda, a Supreme Court judge who favoured sharing power with the Tutsis. The presidential guard showed up for Kavaruganda who was beaten and thrown into the back of a truck, never to be seen again. As he was being bundled away, his wife, Anonciata, and his children watched as the Ghanaians joked with the presidential guard and even shared a few drinks with the family’s tormentors. Anonciata and the children would later escape from Rwanda after taking refuge in the Canadian embassy in Kigali.

Come on Ghana.

Also the Belgians holding off a mob of Hutu in a blockhouse with nothing but a pistol and an AK-47 for 4 hours is pretty :black101:

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 22:32 on May 28, 2014

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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The Chinese military is much, much more belligerent and looking for a fight than China's civilian leadership, yes?

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Snowdens Secret posted:

Short answer yes. Reminder that the military isn't on anything like the short leash Western democracies keep theirs on, and pretty much has its own independent diplomatic policy.

I'm not really sure they're looking for a fight per se, but if you follow the money, the Chinese civilian leadership essentially gets enriched by healthy capitalist trade, while the PLA higher-ups are straight out of a Megadeth album

That's somewhat alarming, it doesn't sound completely unlike Japan in the early 20th century, perhaps minus the stupidly rich capitalist elite.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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orange juche posted:

Japan had a stupidly rich capitialist elite (the zaikai, the meaning is similar to 'finance gods') as well, but they all claimed to defer to the Emperor of Japan.

Ahh, I didn't know that.

I feel like the biggest security risk with regard to China is that the powers that be start to actually believe their own propaganda, and it sounds like the military already believes it at some level.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Mr. Nice! posted:

Empty skyscrapers all over the drat place built by slave labor doesn't really count as developing your country.

It's working so far for China.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Holy poo poo.

"Molecular signature of the virus"

"Complete Curing Device"

"No Side Effects"

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Anyone else remember that 4 year window between 2004 and 2008 where the villain in every video game was a PMC?

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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It boggles my mind the number of people who blame the US for Russia's douchebaggery because the US had the gall to let former Soviet countries direct their own foreign policy.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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pfffffflol

The BBC's Steve Evans in Berlin says the new allegation of American spying on an ally may make it harder for the US to get German help in its efforts to oppose Russian activity in Ukraine, and also to control Iranian nuclear ambitions.

"Mm yes if these allegations are true we just might not oppose the authoritarian nuclear power that just annexed the territory of an EU ally."

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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I'm sort of surprised the Cubans went along with it, this could set their relations with the US back decades.

edit: also lol Edward Snowden is being sheltered by these people

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jul 17, 2014

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Richard Bong posted:

I have recently been playing through fallout 3 and new Vegas so I guess I am as ready for this as I'll ever be.

Glad I'm not IRR!

Only if you've been appropriately role playing on hardcore mode.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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BigDave posted:

This might be a dumb question, but what would any faction gain from a intentional shootdown? It was a Malaysian Airlines plane carrying mostly Dutch passengers, how do the rebels, the fake rebels or the Russians benefit?

Everything so far seems to point down that the rebels thought it was a cargo airplane and shot it down. So it was a mistake but that doesn't absolve them of responsibility and the fact is that 298 civilians are dead, most of whom were from NATO countries.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Whip Slagcheek posted:

Have there been any reports of Americans on board? I haven't seen anything, just a bunch of Europeans and some SE Asians.

23 Americans is being tossed around but I haven't found a decisive source yet.

orange juche posted:

You mean 23 Australians?

There were 27 Australians.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Barracuda Bang! posted:

You're Dutch, right? What's everyone saying over there?

But, like, in English

I'm not Dutch.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Mustang posted:

Wonder if the German public will still think moving away from the US and building stronger ties with Russia is a good idea.

Have the Germans always been dumb?

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Don't panic unless it makes it to China or Europe. Then book a ticket to Madagascar.

If it makes it to Europe and starts infecting white people we'll have a cure in like a week.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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On the other hand China is a corrupt as poo poo house of cards that isn't anywhere near as powerful as it thinks it is.

In some ways that makes it more dangerous.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Waroduce posted:

In unrelated news, China is fuckin around with Microsoft.

Chinese gov forces have raided microsoft offices across the country


http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2357581/chinese-authorities-mysteriously-raid-microsoft-offices

Seems to me that stifling any foreign competition so that domestic corporations have an easier time is a great way to make sure that domestic corporations stay poo poo forever.

Of course I guess that doesn't matter if you just steal everything.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Best Friends posted:

Almost all credit card payments processing runs through New York, as does a whole lot of other global money supply issues. The US is sitting on a giant economic nuclear weapon.

They won't use it unless Russia outright invades Ukraine. It would be ridiculously hawkish and would alarm a lot of other countries if it was done without a really grievous casus belli.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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Certain parts of the Israeli press are actively anti-American and the US just ignores it like a battered housewife.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

Israel isn't getting poo poo over the US no matter what it looks like

Well yeah, but it looks bad.

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Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


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I don't think the world is going to poo poo.

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