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CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

The_Doctor posted:

VLC should get into the Plex-a-like game.

Plex occasionally works.

VLC i had tried to get working for 20 years and 10+ different systems.

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The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

I’ve literally never had a problem with VLC player, and am constantly awed by its ability to play just about anything you throw at it. It’s basically the definition of ‘it just works’. :confused:

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



VLC is god tier. Not sure what the hell you gotta do to break it.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

It may be one of the only apps that hasn't gone to poo poo in my lifetime.

Aware
Nov 18, 2003

Wibla posted:

The vlc android app got updated recently and became worse, so I dunno...

VLC android has forever has such a complicated/terrible interface I stopped bothering with it even though it's one of my favourite PC apps.

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

Pillbug

Vintersorg posted:

VLC is god tier. Not sure what the hell you gotta do to break it.

You drag, you drop, it works. It's perfect.

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lfg4vvfojc2y

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

VLC is in a frustrating position where its the 2nd best option 100% of the time, but the best option 0% of the time.

- Works with HDR, but other implementations look better
- Limited to no tonemapping ability
- Works with every sub version around, but other implementations look better
- Works with every colour space around, but often trips into doing a 16-235 -> 0-255 conversion and crushing the blacks. I swear 90% of the people who "couldn't see anything" in THAT GOT episode were playing a pirated version in VLC because every one I found did this.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Sometimes being second best is fine. I figure if you're in a setup where VLC is main player you probably don't care about anything other than watching the content.

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008
VLC stuff. Hw acceleration sometimes works sometimes doesnt. Sometimes plays stuff without artifacts sometimes doesnt

Meanwhile mplayer/mpv just works

CatHorse fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Apr 6, 2025

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


VLC's always worked 100% for me.

But gently caress plex and pretty much all podcast apps for catching me with complete redesigns when I open them which is 99% of the time before 7am and I'm not prepared for their lovely innovations

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Every podcast app is loving miserable.

Dripp Pisso
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice

That Works posted:

Every podcast app is loving miserable.

Nah, Pocketcasts owns.


I know HEVC is supposed to be great but on my newer LG I see constant film grain compression artifacting on every file I play in this format. How do people put up with it?

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Dripp Pisso posted:

Nah, Pocketcasts owns.


I know HEVC is supposed to be great but on my newer LG I see constant film grain compression artifacting on every file I play in this format. How do people put up with it?

I’ll give it a try then. Can’t be worse than the last dozen I’ve looked at I guess.

E: lol its broken

Installed on iOS, asks if you want to import your subscriptions and playlists from another app. I hit yes to import it from the native iOS podcast app, it links me to a shortcut to download and install to do this and the app link links to a site telling you the shortcut no longer exists. So you can’t even migrate playlists with this app.

That Works fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Apr 8, 2025

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

HEVC is built around digital media with no grain.
If you're encoding in handbrake you can add NR and or gaussian blur to remove the grain.
Once you've done that HEVC will give really good results and barely artifact even down to 2mbit.

If you want to preserve film grain stick to 264, optionally use a preset that preserves the grain (grain is high frequency and it'll avoid doing a low pass) and add plenty of bitrate.
I'd say 12mbit for 1080p leaves pleasing noise without seeing jpegs in it.

Grain is functionally random data and you have to deal with it one way or another

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

Dripp Pisso posted:

I know HEVC is supposed to be great but on my newer LG I see constant film grain compression artifacting on every file I play in this format. How do people put up with it?

Maybe stop downloading 100mb files that claim to be full movie in 4k hdr

Bloopsy
Jun 1, 2006

Thanks Shitman!
Before I started Unraid and Usenet I was getting rargb group HEVC files and they were almost all heavily grained and poorly compressed and generally looked like poo poo. I’ve since replaced them with h264 or remux when I come across them and then covert to AV1. The difference in quality was night and day.

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

Chubby Henparty posted:

But gently caress plex and pretty much all podcast apps for catching me with complete redesigns when I open them which is 99% of the time before 7am and I'm not prepared for their lovely innovations

I moved off Plex right before the redesign, and mostly what I'm seeing in the popular press is "hey this redesign makes Plex pretty useful, you gotta pay $5 a month though". Which is probably not the use case of most people ITT.

If anybody would like to do an effortpost on the Plex redesign for the rest of us, I at least would appreciate it.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

cruft posted:

I moved off Plex right before the redesign, and mostly what I'm seeing in the popular press is "hey this redesign makes Plex pretty useful, you gotta pay $5 a month though". Which is probably not the use case of most people ITT.

If anybody would like to do an effortpost on the Plex redesign for the rest of us, I at least would appreciate it.

Don’t have time to do an effort post right now and I haven’t used it much lately, but the iOS redesign makes it much easier to find your content and not be confused if it is coming from somewhere else.

Which was honestly the biggest problem for me with the old design.

E: the bottom of the screen has a navigation row. The Libraries tab brings you to your content. When that tab is active, there is a dropdown in the to left to change libraries (movies, tv shows, etc.). That dropdown just lists your favorite libraries but also provides an interface to view all libraries and reorder your favorites.

Kibner fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Apr 8, 2025

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



I got Plex Pass - now what? Anything extra? I think hardware transcribing was on automatically so it can use my 4070 S instead of the AMD 7600x which I noticed was stuttering on a lot of videos which my old Intel 6500 non-K never did.

Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

You can now download your stuff for offline use! The Plexamp app owns if you have a music library. You can now skip tv show intros!!!

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

Jellyfin update: smooth sailing.

I've finally fixed the horror show that was the state of my MP3 tags. Jellyfin is a real jerk about absolutely positively requiring MP3 tags. No tags, you get garbage. I'm... okay with this. I have other devices (like the 2017 Nissan LEAF) that are similarly bewildered by MP3 files without tags, and I hadn't realized how awful my library was. It took a few weeks, but it's in good shape now. I'm also a contributor to MusicBrainz, adding or updating all my obscure Irish trad albums and experimental music from the 90s. MusicBrainz makes all their data available, so hopefully if they die, somebody will move the database to another site. I like that.

The *arrs helped tremendously with most of the TV and movie retagging, since Jellyfin wants different filenames than Plex did. Writing .nfo files was another easy fix for lots of problems.

I actually like how there are multiple clients on Android. I wish I could Google cast from Finamp, but whatever. Feishin is really nice on my work machine. I know the multiple clients thing is off-putting for some, but I think it's cool.

Friends and family have only had problems with instability while I was transitioning from the RPi4 to the (ia64) ZimaBoard. Now that the transition is complete, everything's been stable. No complaints from anybody. Everything is working great.

Offline downloads work sooo much better than they ever did on Plex. At home, I can download an entire season of a TV show in seconds. Plex would frequently take hours, if it worked at all, and it was never clear what the hell it was doing. On the Chromebook, I do have to use some other media player (I use VLC), but I had to do that for Plex anyway when the client decided mid-playback that it was going to act like the file no longer existed. Jellyfin at least puts the file in my Downloads folder, so I can find it quicker than remembering where Android puts all the Plex data.

Overall, I'd say it took about two months to get stable. Most of that was an architecture change that anybody else ITT won't have to do, combined with making sure everything is tagged.

cruft fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Apr 9, 2025

VB - Bruere
Dec 8, 2009

Vintersorg posted:

I got Plex Pass - now what? Anything extra? I think hardware transcribing was on automatically so it can use my 4070 S instead of the AMD 7600x which I noticed was stuttering on a lot of videos which my old Intel 6500 non-K never did.

Isn't that because the Intel had QSV?

Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

mariooncrack posted:

Try the Infuse app.

Thanks! I’m on a 1 month trial, and will start paying if the Plex app continues to be trash (it will continue to be trash). Sucks that Infuse is so expensive!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬





Something funny… for April fools? On Reddit? Well I’ll be.

He uploaded the code to gh, but advised it’s janky and might break when it tries to put the posters back to normal. https://github.com/Bothari/googlarr

Aware
Nov 18, 2003

Nfcknblvbl posted:

You can now download your stuff for offline use! The Plexamp app owns if you have a music library. You can now skip tv show intros!!!

And credits!

Just a note for those using Plex apps - there are a whole bunch of advanced client settings you can play with like how long to wait to move to the next episode etc. Combined with skip intro/credits it's now pretty smooth when binge watching where you have no time for anything but content damnit.

parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

EL BROMANCE posted:

Something funny… for April fools? On Reddit? Well I’ll be.

He uploaded the code to gh, but advised it’s janky and might break when it tries to put the posters back to normal. https://github.com/Bothari/googlarr

yeah i did this and it is not perfect yet somehow it is perfect


it'll be even funnier if it does break when i try to put it back to normal

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

parasyte posted:

yeah i did this and it is not perfect yet somehow it is perfect


it'll be even funnier if it does break when i try to put it back to normal

LOL

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Big fan of what it did with Fatal Error.

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
Is maintainerr/overseerr the best way to janitor Plex? I only run Plex for my house, but I'm looking to trim some of the fat and put an approval process around requests. Curious if any goons have rules/workflows that work well?

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Two more tools that can help with maintaining a Plex library are Tdarr (or similar software, FileFlows) and Prefetcharr.
Tdarr/FileFlows allows you to transcode your video files based on specific parameters. I used FileFlows to set it up so that videos downloaded more than a month ago are transcoded to x265 to reduce file size. This way, I reclaim a lot of storage space, and users still get a high-quality version if they urgently want to watch something.

Prefetcharr is a tool that checks the watched status of a TV show in Plex and can initiate downloads based on that. For example, you can configure it to only download the first season of newly added shows and to download the next season only if viewers watch around 80% of the first. This eliminates scenarios where a four-season show gets requested, only for the viewer to realize it’s not really their thing after two episodes.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Ooh that sounds like it’ll work nicely with my default behavior to download essentially every pilot episode as it airs. I’ll happily download a full season if someone watches any of them.

I’ve seen FileFlow mentioned a few times when searching around for Unmanic/Tdarr etc. Does it also support a multiple node system? I have my plex server monitor everything but have my main Mac Mini do the crunching overnight when I’m not using it.

Anonymouse Mook
Jul 12, 2006

Showing Vettel the way since 1979

EL BROMANCE posted:

Ooh that sounds like it’ll work nicely with my default behavior to download essentially every pilot episode as it airs. I’ll happily download a full season if someone watches any of them.

I’ve seen FileFlow mentioned a few times when searching around for Unmanic/Tdarr etc. Does it also support a multiple node system? I have my plex server monitor everything but have my main Mac Mini do the crunching overnight when I’m not using it.

Fileflows lets you have 2 nodes on the free version, with more added as you go up the pricing tiers

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Thanks, when I've got some free time I'll have a play around and see how I like it compared to Unmanic. Unmanic is definitely a pain in the butt and there doesn't seem to be much support outside a paywalled Discord, doesn't have a dedicated subreddit and just the occasional post of someone trying it.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
I don't know about Unmanic but the reason I went with fileflows in my setup was that I found it a little easier to grasp than Tdarr while still providing pretty granular level of control. The discord wasn't always easy to get help in but that's every free softwares discord.

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Incessant Excess posted:

Two more tools that can help with maintaining a Plex library are Tdarr (or similar software, FileFlows) and Prefetcharr.
Tdarr/FileFlows allows you to transcode your video files based on specific parameters. I used FileFlows to set it up so that videos downloaded more than a month ago are transcoded to x265 to reduce file size. This way, I reclaim a lot of storage space, and users still get a high-quality version if they urgently want to watch something.

Prefetcharr is a tool that checks the watched status of a TV show in Plex and can initiate downloads based on that. For example, you can configure it to only download the first season of newly added shows and to download the next season only if viewers watch around 80% of the first. This eliminates scenarios where a four-season show gets requested, only for the viewer to realize it’s not really their thing after two episodes.

pro post,, thank u

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

i'm OBSESSED with quibbling over minutiae!!!!!!!!
How much should I care about AV1 encoding?

I'm looking at throwing a used GPU in an older AMD 2600x machine I'm going to use for jellyfin but I guess some of the good value cards don't do AV1.

I only do local streaming on my own network

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



First thing to consider is your clients, because if they don’t do AV1 decoding then you’re going to be putting that on the server and adding a further layer of transcoding into the mix.

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.
AV1 decoding is potentially more useful if you have AV1 media that you want to HW transcode to incompatible devices. But your CPU could maybe handle that on its own anyways.

AV1 encoding in Jellyfin I think would be pointless on your local network. The main benefit would be to be able to send a higher quality video in a scenario where WAN bandwidth was a limiting factor. A 5mbps av1 encode will look nicer than a 5mbps h264 encode.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

i'm OBSESSED with quibbling over minutiae!!!!!!!!

EL BROMANCE posted:

First thing to consider is your clients, because if they don’t do AV1 decoding then you’re going to be putting that on the server and adding a further layer of transcoding into the mix.

it looks like the chromecast TV HDs i have will do AV1, so thats pretty much a yes. not every device does, like my ipad wont, but 2 out of 3 of the devices likely to be streamed at can.

it looks like the AMD RX 7600 does AV1 and is pretty cheap though, so that may be a good option. i wanted something that could be used for 1080p gaming as well, which is mostly what is prompting the hardware change

drat that card uses a ton of power, forget about that one

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Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Worf posted:

How much should I care about AV1 encoding?

I'm looking at throwing a used GPU in an older AMD 2600x machine I'm going to use for jellyfin but I guess some of the good value cards don't do AV1.

I only do local streaming on my own network

Great for re-encoding a bunch of TV shows and saving a lot of space. IDark scenes can end up crushed but who cares on stuff like Full House and Fresh Prince of Bel Air when it’s turning files from 1gb to 300mb and keeping about 90% of the quality. Animation doesn’t seem to lose almost anything with the conversion.

Movies I leave alone in their original form.

If you are planning to get a video card for this task, look for a $99 Intel Arc A310.

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