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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

I still have a VMWare server in the basement because I am a nerd for a living and run lots of dumb stuff for myself as well as using it as a test bed for learning and work projects. My plex server is still happily trucking away on it's own Centos 7 VM.

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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Hed posted:

Is there a way to get Podcasts excluded from my music search in the iPhone app? I have all of the Podcast media types disabled and plugins disabled but they keep cropping up.

I’m ok with zero results if I don’t have the song.

I have no real answer to this, but wanted to jump in to say: probably no. Because of the shtification of Plex due to their feature pushing. I'm getting somewhat disappointed with this kind of crap. Like.....I get it, you really want me to consume content the way you want me to consume content, but for fucks sake stop doing poo poo like reseting preferences like "turn off the goddamn Play Theme Music" thing when the Roku app updates.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

This is a bit of an odd question but why does the HD Homerun Connect with Plex not produce as good of a picture quality as the coax directly to my TV?

I was just checking on this, because the HDHR I have (extend) does transcode in hardware. So I expect that. The connect does not. As Dren said, tautulli is the way to go to start investigating this.

I've run into issues between my switch and the HDHR that was causing me to drop packets so the stream looked like extra garbage, way worse than just transcoding. I hit up their tech support and they were super helpful and asked "are you seeing dropped packets on that switch port because we can see that on your device?" (they can check stats on their side via the serial number) I seriously didn't consider this.......as a network engineer (sometimes I'm just a dumbass). Turns out there were a ton and when I confirmed that responded with very helpful advice (their speed/duplex negotiation is kinda poo poo, so I turned that off on my switch port and set it to 1000/full and it negotiated properly and everything has been fine since).

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

I have a Roku Express and no real complaints about Plex speed. It’s small enough too that I can tack it behind the tv it’s connected to and is still powered by USB. Not really sure the purpose of the stick when it’s not much cheaper and everyone always rags on the performance.

The 4k sticks work great, and comes with an RF remote. The express does not, so I'm not sure how you're getting a decent signal to the remote if it's behind the tv. The express specifically comes with a double sided tape strip for mount it on top or bottom of the TV so the IR receiver can be oriented in the right direction.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

I'll have to check how I mounted it when I get home, but I have zero issue with the remote. I even bought a little mount so it could sit above or below the TV if needed due to anticipating that, but I never needed to use it in the end.

Never had a piece of tape with mine, unless I simply didn't spot it in the box. Is that a new addition perhaps? I think my Express is the newest-bar-one (2017 model according to my Amazon order page) so might be something they've included since.

I don't think it's new. The first express I got was the bar style one several years ago and it had the tape. You could have just gotten a mis-packed box.

IR remotes will still work with the receiver behind the TV in certain circumstances (usually bright colored walls/limited outdoor light), but you end up needing to replace batteries a lot sooner for them to continue working reliably in my experience.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

odiv posted:

Speaking of space, Jesus PLEX likes to make a ton of files and folders.

I'm trying to copy over the files to my NAS before I flatten the server and I'm up to 70k folders so far.

The metadata/fast forward frame stuff (I forget what it's called) is absolutely a poo poo show to copy. It's just a million tiny files and folders and it takes forever. You COULD skip all that and let it reprocess, but I've always just copied it over. With the size of my library it would take days/weeks.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Hoobastank4ever97 posted:

I'm looking in my router for which wifi channel to use and I'm not sure I know which one to use. I read online that channel 1, 6, and 11 are the only ones you can use. Why is that? I'd like to use whichever one would interfere less with Bluetooth.

They are not the "only" ones you can use, but using those particular channels is the only way to end up with 3 non-overlapping chunks of wifi spectrum.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

TigerXtrm posted:

As much as I like Ombi as an idea, isn't it just more practical to have a chat group on Discord/Whatsapp/Facebook/Pornhub/whatever if it's just for a few friends? I feel a thing like Ombi only becomes useful once you're threading into renting out your libraries or sharing with your entire 90 story office building, both of which are highly questionable practices anyway.

Hells no.

I have no auth on - the only thing they need to remember is their plex username.

I literally have them hand me their phone so I cab make a shourtcut to it. Then it's "no more texts about getting you poo poo......figure this out or get what you get to watch."

It's completely worked.

It's also cut down on the number of movies or shows me and other users need to request, because someone else has already likely done it so it's just already there in my two Ombi plex libraries "Movie Requests" and "TV Requests".

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

Now I've added a few friends to my Plex library, I'm totally going to send them a welcome email with this at the top



Thank you. This is now my Ombi custom logo.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Atomizer posted:

I'd assume that, even with the media on an SSD, direct play, and a fast Internet connection, somewhere before 50 streams you'd run into a bottleneck, be it on the network or on the server's hardware itself. I mean maybe he has a Threadripper or something with a ton of RAM and better than consumer-grade networking gear, but that "50 users" estimate is very likely optimistic.

I would think so. This is my excessive-for-home VMWare server:



....and the resources assigned to the Plex VM:



I've had 8 or 10 streams max at once and it was fine. But I guarantee you that if one of those streams was UHD transcoding to 480 or something it all would have ground to a halt. I've got about 15 remote users that have various levels of usage and for the most part this just works as expected.

edit: the media is on a NAS

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

hitze posted:

CPU Buddy! :clint:

Wait...how do you have 32 cores with 2 CPUs? Is that how it reports hyperthreading?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Enos Cabell posted:

Mine isn't quite as cool but I want in on the Xeon crew.



We need a PleXeon gang tag.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Atomizer posted:

Yup, in this case it's the UHD transcode that's stressing your system. From Plex's own guidelines:


Your CPU is a little over 12k Passmarks, so that single transcode is bottlenecking the CPU.

* Each of the CPUs.

I still need to actually read about GPU transcoding and figure out if I should shove one in that server

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

They would also need to buy a Plex Pass to access your live TV tuner

Is that new? Because I used to have my HDHR hooked up as of a year ago and people who I shared with who absolutely did not haev plex pass could use it.

Of course.....that may have been through a plug in (HDHRViewer).

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Bonzo posted:

so Plex will soon have ad supported, free, movies from Warner Brothers.

https://9to5mac.com/2019/08/29/plex-warner-bros-streaming/

Time to start testing Emby again.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

I saw people on r/plex sub talking about using CrashPlan for a backup service. Thought I'd give it a whirl, I used to use them years back before they changed their system and it wasn't too bad beyond the software sucking.

I honestly don't know how anyone uses them for a Plex backup at all. I decided to do my little 2TB RAID box first as that has things like my photography etc on it, and my fiber connection is going to take 2 months it reckons. It's been going for days and it's still at less than 100GB. Given the amount of times that my 26TB Plex library changes, yeah this is a complete waste of loving time and I can just put the same money into switching out a HDD for a new one each year. This isn't even fast enough to do personal files.

Yes, this is how they offer an "unlimited" service.

I was able to churn through my personal files and it keeps up, but lol at thinking you'll ever keep up with a plex library.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

Yeah I was genuinely surprised to see people talking about using it or Backblaze for this kind of thing, but no idea how they keep on top of it unless they're running small libraries that they think is worth paying $10/mo or whatever to keep backed up. Makes zero sense to me. All the software seems to be good at is churning through CPU cycles, so I think I'm done before my free trial even ends.

It's worth it to me for my personal files - it's set up and does it's thing so, eh?

I mean, they are offering an unlimited service based on Amazon S3/Glacier, a clearly pay per service. So they have to make it painful to use a lot of, artificially. The CPU cycles thing is the encryption, but I assure you it doesn't matter how much CPU you give it or how big your pipe - I've tried both and had extra CPU available and was nowhere near my connection speed and it was still just lumbering along.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

Yeah personal files it makes some sense, although it's not even intended as a Personal service anymore, it's a "Small Business" after they changed course a few years back.

The only reason it was changed to small business is so they could do the pricing model change to charge per client you have running.

So I have exactly one client running, on a VM that does nothing other than that. And it's allowed to read-only NFS mount whatever needs backing up.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009


Woah yet another re purposed Sonarr fork.

I've been noticing subtitle downloads sucking lately (I forget what I had set up in plex that was doing fine for a while) so thanks. I'm gonna add this to my Sonarr/Radarr/Deluge/Sab VM.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

I've been running plex on an always on windows 10 pro box for years and it's fine. I have it set to auto login on startup in case it needs to do updates in the middle of the night or whatever.

It's totally fine if that's what you want to do.

Yeah, I don't get the issue. While I run Plex on Linux, I have some DVR software (Blue Iris) that I like a lot which is unfortunately windows only and it's been running on Win 10 (retail) VM for at least 4 years now with no issues. I have updates set to notify only and I occasionally log in and install updates/update Blue Iris if one is available. It's not given me any hassle at all.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

cr0y posted:

Does anyone know if an HDMI stick exists that would let me install Plex/Kodi and poo poo without being married to an Amazon account like the fire stick? I really want a no frills Plex stick that I can share amongst friends without needing them to do the setup after they register it with Amazon/Roku whoever

Put it on a restricted secondary amazon account or buy a Roku stick? (which is then tied to a roku account......so that might not work depending on what you're trying to do here)

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

Meanwhile sync still doesn’t work reliably for a large amount of paying users for the umpteenth year in a row.

Yeah, this.

And even when it does work, I come home and my watched/unwatched status after sync is at best random.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Enos Cabell posted:

Contact your ISP and see if they'll sell you a static IP. Pretty much your only option.

Or just a dynamic IP - anything to get out from behind CGNAT will do for this purpose. Tell them your work VPN doesn't work and the IT department said it's because of this so they don't get lovely about "running servers on a home connection".

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

Yeah I tried the Crashplan route, and quickly gave up when it was estimating it would take 2 years to backup my media. It has new software since I last used it, but it seems equally as bad (like it literally took a weekend to work out how to process the test backup I setup - a single test file).

I've been using crashplan for a while. It works......but I'm not backing up media. The slowdowns are their way of handling their "unlimited backups" - I was not surprised to find this out.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Ixian posted:

You never gave any details on your setup, like what kind of server you were running Plex on, your settings, wifi details, etc. The fact that you can play things from Youtube, etc. has very little to do with it and you shouldn't rule out connectivity issues because of it. For example there's obviously a problem with your Roku Plex client reaching your Plex server via your wifi but without further details it's impossible to say what.

I'm going to say there is a 50% chance the plex server is also connected via wireless on the same AP so streaming to a wireless device is effectively doubling the bandwidth requirements.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

PIA also supports a SOCKS5 proxy, which is arguably the right way to have one or more applications transiting the VPN rather than messing with a routing table. (providing the apps you want to proxy also support it of course - but the usual suspects all do)

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

H110Hawk posted:

Which recall does not natively support encryption, so if you want to hide your activities from your ISP or whomever, you must encrypt whatever you are sending down the SOCKS pipe. It provides a cheaper, cleartext way around various blocks. Nord (the ones with the compromised master key) have a picture: https://nordvpn.com/blog/socks5-proxy/

True in general, but IIRC, the PIA client has a socks proxy endpoint so you're pointing at 127.0.0.1 port whatever, which the client then encrypts and shoves down the VPN. I configured this a long time ago, so the details are fuzzy. I may have used a 3rd party client or something in addition.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Anybody know why this setting simply STOPPED WORKING recently?



It's putting transcodes in /tmp (Centos Linux). I've switched the setting, I've tried it with and with a / at the end........this install and config has been working for over 2 years. The only thing that changes on this box are centos patches and plex updates.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Atomizer posted:

I don't know the answer to your question, but it reminded me of a relevant tweak I just made so I thought I'd share it here: I decided to create a RAMdrive and use that for the transcoding directory depicted in your screenshot. On Windows, I used AMD Radeon RAMDisk, which is apparently a rebrand of Dataram's software, to create a 4 GB drive on both of my Plex servers.

Yeah, the directory that it's NOT honoring is actually a ramdisk. It works quite nicely when it's working - noticeably faster "button press to playing". If you've got the RAM I highly recommend it.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Khablam posted:

Transcoding video is not a scenario where a RAMdisk will help; the drive isn't the bottleneck. Maybe it does start a video slightly faster, but if my network-shared old HDD starts playing in under a second, how much are you really gaining? I'd suggest you placebo'd yourself.
Neither is wear&tear on a good SSD a situation you will run into. They will last past your grandchildren's birth even under heavy use.

RAMdisks are about needing more IOPS, which is not something plex needs.

Absent 10Gig to my iSCSI target on my ESXi/plex VM config maybe I'm just removing a bottleneck when other things are happening (plex library scans, other apps moving shows across the same shared network). So maybe it doesn't make sense outside of a scenario similar to mine, but it certainly seems to make a difference.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

H110Hawk posted:

Debug logs should tell you where it's going, otherwise it's plex I would blame plex updates. They probably just deleted whatever code reads that variable. Otherwise, selinux? Plex starting before ram disk is mounted? Are the temp files "under" that mount if you dismount your ram disk?

I actually disabled the ram disk and made that a filesystem folder just to try and it still wasn't working to try to eliminate the possibility of exactly what you are talking about. I actually didn't think about the debug logs.....but that seems an obvious but annoying place to go to next.

(and just lol if you think I leave selinux running on that VM with boat loads of NFS mounts, etc)

H110Hawk posted:

Why not make it a tmpfs mount? Doesn't /tmp with tweaking use ram?

That's a good point too - if it wants to be fightey I think that's a reasonably easy to do centos thing.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

H110Hawk posted:

I guess I should take my own advice. That's my plex box, which mounts the files from nfs. Though it does boot locally I'm not a monster, there's no iscsi in this household.)

I'm arguably an even worse monster: I have VMWare datastores mounted over NFS.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Same here. Mines is on a CentOS 7 VM (directly installed). It gets rebooted only after plex or OS updates.

That is normally. There have absolutely been some releases where it was just garbage and required frequent reboots and/or I've rolled back to a previous version. I can't re call this happening any time recently - and I'm running the plex pass versions.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

That sounds like a hypervisor/unraid question, not a plex question honestly.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

ROJO posted:

I feel like unless you are hardwired, chromecasts, even the Ultra, are definitely flaky with Plex. The one in our bedroom can easily stutter on something 720p unless I drag a cable across the hall to it. And that's within 15ft of a Unifi Access Point (although it is partially shielded by huge mirror on the other side of the wall). I have had zero problems with the one on our main TV, even pushing 4K to it, but it is hardwired.

So I have two ultras. One is wired, the other is wireless, 15 feet from a unifi.

The wireless one was a gigantic pain in my rear end for a while. To the point where they warrantied it, and it still did the same poo poo.

Then I moved it out from behind the tv where I had it hidden.

It was interference. From being too close to the back to the TV that i stuffed it behind. It's been 100% perfect for over a year now. But I have to actually look at it.

Your mileage may vary.



Edit: Dammit I was reading "Roku" when I read "ultra". Just put me on ignore already.

Motronic fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jul 10, 2020

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

I'm not exactly sure WHY Laserdisc didn't opt to just be a huge digital compact disk but I hope this little bit of information helps you understand because it was seriously racking my brain that a disc being read by a laser could be analog.

One of my friend's dad's was one of the primary engineers behind the Laserdisc. As I understand it, they did it for cost/complexity: the D/A converters of the time were very much expensive, complicated, large pieces of hardware that didn't necessarily work very well outside of professional environments. For audio. I'm not sure any video had actually been recorded digitally outside research and development efforts at that time.

Remember, we're talking something RELEASED in 1980, meaning it has been in design with a format chosen years earlier. CDs weren't out until 1982. DVDs weren't out until the mid to late 90s.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

gary oldmans diary posted:

If they weren't huge and expensive and made my room 100 degrees I would miss CRTs so much.

I still have my flyback discharge tool and I think I might still remember how to work on them :)

I'm like the electronics repair fortran coder.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

nexus6 posted:

Anyone user Sonarr/Radarr with torrents and know if there's a way to move completed downloads rather than copy them?

I'm using Deluge and when I add media in Sonarr/Radarr I tell them I want it on my external drive. It is working but what appears to happen is files are downloaded to my internal drive then copied & renamed. The problem is my external drive has about 20x the capacity of my internal one which keeps getting filled, so every now and then I have to log in and delete things.

You shouldn't be deleting the torrents immediately - that's a hit and run. Kinda makes the system not work.

I'm using the "AutoRemovePlus" plugin in Deluge to remove torrents after they have seeded back 1:1 or after 2 weeks, whichever comes first.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Sir DonkeyPunch posted:

Deluge has the capability to move (and rename) the file, but it's still known by deluge as the file referenced by the torrent. so it doesn't strictly have to be a hit and run

Ahhhh, okay. I suppose I should figure that out :)

Of course, once I get more than a couple hundred torrents the interface stops showing them at all and I have to just nuke the torrent directory. I should probably be more concerned with that.

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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Balsa posted:

Sonarr and Radarr support hard linking. Hard linking allows for the file to apper in two places but only take up the size of one. This allows Plex/Deluge to keep using the file for seeding and such.

Downside. This cannot happen across filesystems :(

It's across filesystems. Of course.

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