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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

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I've only started thinking through the idea, and implementing it would take more technical expertise than I have alone. For instance, I'm not sure if Strangecoin can be implemented as an extension of the bitcoin protocol, or if some fundamentally new technology is required. If you know something about the technical details, I'd love to hear your thoughts. If you might know how to implement something like this, I'd love to help you try.

Since other people are focusing on the rest so well, this is what I want to nitpick. If you don't even have the slightest clue how to implement your idea, your idea is loving worthless. Anyone can say "poo poo man, what if we had carts that pulled themselves?" but it still took the human race thousands of years to make cars. I mean, it's one thing to have an incomplete idea of how something could work, but you don't even have that. All you have is "I'm sure computers can do it, someone wanna get on that for me?". And the answer is no, because you're a raving loony.

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I quit reading when I realized the point was more or less "this is like BitCoin only it will work and not be stupid because..."

No, keep reading, it's actually MUCH stupider than even bitcoin.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

karthun posted:

RealityApologist/Estrada is a philosophy grad student.

To be fair, if you ran a philosophy department, wouldn't you keep an Eripsa around for essentially infinite laughs and examples of what not to do?

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

Good Citizen posted:

Maybe he's actually good at philosophy? I honestly wouldn't know. I don't walk around pretending I can evaluate and completely redefine disciplines I don't know poo poo about.

Imagine that

Dadaist art sought to divorce art from order and logic. Eripsa does the same to language, but much more effectively.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

moebius2778 posted:

Okay, if I'm understanding this correctly, initially sniffs to the meat generate positive ... let's say credit to the meat inspector as long as the meat is fresh. As the meat rots, sniffs to the meat generate negative credit to the meat inspector, hopefully eventually prompting the meat inspector to do something about the meat.

1) Is knowing that sniffs while the meat is fresh should generate positive credit while sniffs while the meat is rotten should generate negative credit something that is initially coded into the system? Is this something the system learns? How is it decided? Because this has the feel of something that could blow up very, very quickly, the more and more domains it had to cover.

2) If the system can tell if the meat is fresh or rotten, why is there a meat inspector?

Because it's a hypothetical and you can never criticize hypotheticals, duh.

Eripsa, have you ever had a non-academia related job in your entire life?

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

RealityApologist posted:

3) Drawing an imbalance of funds from TUA throws the whole network off balance. If you're loving with TUA eventually no one would agree to a transaction with you.

Have you ever heard the phrase "Cutting off your nose to spite your face"? People are loving morons who will do things they know will hurt themselves out of pure spite. Saying "It's obviously a bad idea" will not stop people from doing it, even if it's 100% true.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

RealityApologist posted:

No, I mean people have an economic disincentive to engage with you, not that people will do it of the kindness of their heart.

Assuming you could deplete TUA's balance, then you'd have also hosed the basic income for everyone else, including the person you are trading with. Continuing to trade with you just makes the situation worse for everyone. Giving any individual more stragecoin from TUA doesn't make that situation any better, so absolutely no one has an incentive to trade with you; your strangecoin would effectively be worthless because of your impact on the network.

It is absolutely a terrible idea to keep trading with those people. People will do it anyways, because lots of people are idiotic, greedy, short sighted, gullible, sociopathic, or any possible combination of the aforementioned traits. If it can benefit them or screw someone they don't like over in the short term, people will absolutely sacrifice the long term. History is pretty much the study of what stupid loving thing people decided to do this time.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

CheesyDog posted:

It's like you approach a practical idea repeatedly only to reveal yet another profound ignorance of human nature.

That's why I asked if he's ever had a job outside of academia. He seems like exactly the kind of yuppie that's never had to meaningfully provide for himself.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

eXXon posted:

Who the hell uses social networks to verify someone's academic history? What a dumb loving example. How about asking for a copy of their diploma and then contacting the school's registrar or records department if you still don't believe them for whatever reason?

Oh boy Eripsa is a member of the MIT alumni group on G+, better offer him that advisory board position soon!

My shitstain uncle on my mom's side abuses exactly that kind of trust to get jobs. He lies about having his pharmacology degree despite getting kicked out of school for stealing drugs to sell for spending money. After he used it to get his first non-pharmacology related job with an employer who didn't vet well enough he just kept putting it on his resume and new employers would just ask his old employers who would all say "Yep, he has a degree".

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

Pesmerga posted:

Jesus. I've said it before Eripsa, but you need to a see a medical professional.

But he already sees himself everyday. :smuggo:

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
There's also the fact that it's actually what bitcoiners erroneously accuse fiat currency of being: backed in value by nothing but the hopes and dreams of the people using it.

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