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Only browsed the thread but it seems to me OP's first problem is that he is a terrible writer. His writing style is robotic, wordy, and incoherent. On top of that he probably thinks he is a clear, articulate writer. Advice: go take some writing courses from people who have experience beyond publishing stuffy academic papers on philosophy. I used to write like this when I was in the middle of being brainwashed by the literature department and it took some unfucking by a technical writing course to get me back to the point where I could write and have other humans understand what I was saying. (I still suck of course but at least I realize it) edit: Here, I just pulled a random sentence or two from the previous page: "So my impression is that the very idea that I would attempt to articulate an ambitious proposal, despite my incompetence, that is generating all this ire. The suggestion is that no one is actually capable of such a thing, so I'm a fool to even try, especially given my apparently obvious and severe cognitive disabilities. " could be rewritten in a non-douche manner as: "I get it, you guys think that unless I am an expert or a genius I can't produce new ideas in a field I'm unfamiliar with. I disagree." (I am making no judgements on how ridiculous this statement is, but look, I just said the exact same thing you did with about 75% less word vomit.) edit 2: here, read this. i try to re-read it once a year. clear writing leads to clear thinking and vice versa. https://www.box.net/shared/static/72sdtr5q8x.pdf nebby fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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RealityApologist posted:I use too many words. I will try to use fewer words. But the words I use are not arbitrary; I try to be careful about my choice of words and to use them consistently. That doesn't mean I'm always clear, but the thread sometimes acts like I'm a glossolalist. It's not that you are just using too many words, you are using esoteric, complex words that do not add any additional clarity to what you are saying. "If your writing is nonsense, then perhaps your thoughts are nonsense too." That sentence you wrote uses "ire", "articulate", "cognitive disabilities", terms that are easily replaced by much simpler straightforward words. This type of dressing up of language appears in all of your posts I've read. You claim you are careful about your choice of words but yet these carefully chosen words you use add no value and alienate your readers. (That's it from me, sorry for the derail.)
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Apr 2, 2014 09:25
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You guys should have sent him off to implement fizzbuzz in Haskell as a "first step" back at page one -- could have saved thousands of posts.
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Apr 26, 2014 21:43
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non-programmers tend to completely overlook really hard aspects to algorithmic problem solving, and programmers tend to underestimate the march forward of technology and the cleverness of other programmers to take advantage of it. however the latter group is the only one with the knowledge and intuition to possibly make good predictions about personal computing, etc., computational complexity being a good example where usually programmers are right on the money in their analysis but may underestimate the ability for people to come up with alternative approaches that amortize away or completely avoid that complexity by clever design or reformulation of the problem. (in a thread like this though if you are the "technologic philosopher" the burden of proof is on you to show that such clever alternatives exist or at least we have reason to believe they may exist) disclaimer: I'm a programmer and try to take that hat off when making predictions about the future nebby fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 02:28
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Mercury_Storm posted:This entire thread is an exercise in useless mental masturbation. I guess talking about things in concrete terms could get in the way of  .
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