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Baron Corbyn
Jul 1, 2012

#AllHail




El Gallinero Gros posted:

Not only that, but why the hell do they want this show to be either a failure or only successful with an asterisk? In theory they should want wrestling promotion on the whole to be as competitive as possible.

Some WWE fans are weirdly insecure about their choice of wrestling and will flaunt weird poo poo like stock prices to "prove" their choice of wrestling show is superior and a successful alternative that they steadfastly refuse to check out would threaten the argument that WWE is better because it's more well known. Like, if you enjoy WWE then don't worry about what other people like. Nobody should give a poo poo about stock prices unless they're shareholders

Cody and the Bucks are polarising figures in all areas of wrestling fandom for various reasons too, so for a lot of people it's an issue of personal distaste.

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Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Not only that, but why the hell do they want this show to be either a failure or only successful with an asterisk? In theory they should want wrestling promotion on the whole to be as competitive as possible.

Because it's not WWE. Remember, you're not a success as a wrestler unless you're in the WWE.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



The first guy is part right, for the wrong reason.

A pretty low percentage are being re-sold, which is a scalper's dream because of how much more they can charge.

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005

icy chain with the watch now


Davros1 posted:

Because it's not WWE. Remember, you're not a success as a wrestler unless you're in the WWE.

Bingo. The amount of effort Vince has put into convincing an audience that has largely been tied solely into his product for almost twenty years now that "everything outside of this company doesn't matter" has paid dividends in the most useless and annoying way ever: arguing on the internet.

I also imagine ALL IN whining is excaberated with those same sort of fans by the Bucks and their refusal to go to WWE since they very clearly see the end result of a run there: either end up broken up or become fodder for main eventers in a Wrestlemania or Summerslam angle to go over. Add in Cody, who's basically in more mainstream places now than he was when he was in WWE because of the Hot Topic and Funko deal so he's essentially become more successful out of the company than in it, and it really would grind a particular type of people's gears. And add in Kenny, another guy who repeatedly mentions he's loath to jump to WWE as people like Steve Austin are going "he could be that top guy they're still really looking for" (which in turn leads to the pendulum of Kenny either being a spot monkey with no psychology and a bad promo or is imminently signing with WWE depending on how recently he had a great match), and it really, really probably gets under some people's skins.

The Cameo fucked around with this message at May 20, 2018 around 10:14

Web Jew.0
May 13, 2009


Someone on Reddit said the All In sellout isn't a big deal because they have "a variety of talent like Okada, Rey, and Omega." A variety of talent. Y'know unlike all those other shows where it's just one guy wrestling himself for four hours.

Helicity
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!


Web Jew.0 posted:

unlike all those other shows where it's just one guy wrestling himself for four hours.

go on...

Baron Corbyn
Jul 1, 2012

#AllHail




Web Jew.0 posted:

Someone on Reddit said the All In sellout isn't a big deal because they have "a variety of talent like Okada, Rey, and Omega." A variety of talent. Y'know unlike all those other shows where it's just one guy wrestling himself for four hours.

The same talent on the NJPW show that hasn't sold out yet?

Germansimp
May 28, 2013



Not a full 4 hours, but
https://www.f4wonline.com/other-wre...gauntlet-151971

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Kota vs. Invisible Man Iron Man Match, book it Joey

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Your voice may have changed but your breath is still the same.

My goodness, Hot Stuff!


Benne posted:

Kota vs. Invisible Man Iron Man Match, book it Joey

Jesus no, Kota would die.

Like if you told Kota to get in a pretend fight with himself I genuinely believe within an hour of escalation he'd be powerbombing himself off a bridge onto a passing ferry for a pop.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

Band-aids don't fix arrow wounds


I'm like 90% sure Kota Ibushi vs The Invisible Man has already happened in DDT before

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


people should be bitching because this looks like they sold out an arena on a the promise of a Nick Aldis match.

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill

coconono posted:

people should be bitching because this looks like they sold out an arena on a the promise of a Nick Aldis match.

Guess Billy was smart to put the belt on him

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012



coconono posted:

people should be bitching because this looks like they sold out an arena on a the promise of a Nick Aldis match.

This seems like a really stupid take when you look at everyone making an appearance. I know I decided to buy a ticket when I knew Okada was on the card and in an arena that is a lot closer then the west coast. It could be Okada vs. The invisible man and probably still worth it.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.


Okada's the one name on the card that makes it not look like the average indy show, and even then it's surprising how well this sold even with that addition

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



Yeah, is the NJPW show still having trouble moving tickets?

Maybe we underestimated the drawing power of Stephen Amell.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012



Holding it in Chicago was smart. It's petty cheap to travel to Chicago no matter where you are. They also did a great job at selling it as a must see event.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Chris James 2 posted:

Okada's the one name on the card that makes it not look like the average indy show, and even then it's surprising how well this sold even with that addition

Omega has wrestled on one US indie show this year.

Cody has wrestled on 0.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



Yeah but Omega has done plenty of them in the past, and every indie show has a Cody.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009



the cow palace and CEO new japan shows were announced much later and the people that would travel for them may have already made plans to do all in or went to the long beach show earlier this year thats pretty much it

oh and all in has been billed as a much bigger event

sleepwalkers
Dec 7, 2008




Aphrodite posted:

Yeah but Omega has done plenty of them in the past, and every indie show has a Cody.

Ah yes, all of those notable Kenny indie matches such as...? Dudeís worked like, 10 indie dates since the beginning of 2017.

checksin
Nov 23, 2006

I joined the new sensation, the #RXT REVOLUTION~!



he knows...


Cody worked our indie on Saturday, but thatís canada so maybe itís different

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

If you're gonna do it, do it with ~*~Axefaire~*~


sleepwalkers posted:

Ah yes, all of those notable Kenny indie matches such as...? Dudeís worked like, 10 indie dates since the beginning of 2017.

he fought okada a few times on some Japanese indie

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Today in "Shaze Seltzer lying about TNA again"

https://twitter.com/syxxpakk/status/998707973991084032

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money


Benne posted:

Today in "Shaze Seltzer lying about TNA again"

https://twitter.com/syxxpakk/status/998707973991084032

I still don't get how Meltzer gets people fighting mad when he's the most innocuous, harmless journalist alive

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill

Social media in general is all about idiots getting outraged over nothing

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Jenkem Delivery posted:

Social media in general is all about idiots getting outraged over nothing

And if it feels to them like the thing they're into is maligned, double that outrage

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

It's also funny that people still think Dave is out to get TNA when he's been raving about how much better Impact is for over a year now

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Benne posted:

It's also funny that people still think Dave is out to get TNA when he's been raving about how much better Impact is for over a year now

Also Dave is very much in a position where it benefits him for companies to do as well a spossible because it gives him more to report on, which he's smart enough to recognize.

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SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007



Grimey Drawer

There are going to be a LOT of awful posts fawning over the Lashley segment, I'd wager.

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