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Welp there it is, finally the stupidest wrestling fan opinion.
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I kind of think that's one dumb opinion that New Japan watchers brought upon themselves. I watched my first NJPW show this year (Wrestle Kingdom) and my expectations were so ludicrously high for Okada based on what people had said about him that being underwhelmed was completely inevitable and it has nothing to do with him not being great. I know people in the thread said that you have to kind of look at his career as a whole, but it's like, what do you expect people to say if they only watch a couple of matches? The hyperbole around the guy is just off the charts
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Jul 3, 2020 14:09
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Nah, there’s no hyperbole. He really is the best wrestler of all time.
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Crapple! posted:I kind of think that's one dumb opinion that New Japan watchers brought upon themselves. I watched my first NJPW show this year (Wrestle Kingdom) and my expectations were so ludicrously high for Okada based on what people had said about him that being underwhelmed was completely inevitable and it has nothing to do with him not being great. I know people in the thread said that you have to kind of look at his career as a whole, but it's like, what do you expect people to say if they only watch a couple of matches? The hyperbole around the guy is just off the charts So you watched Okada have two fantastic matches with Ibushi and Naito and your takeaway was 'eh, this guy's fine'?
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Jul 3, 2020 14:16
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i used to think okada was just fine but accepted him as the greatest wrestler of all time after watching him have like two dozen actual perfect matches on-top of another bunch of matches that are better than many great wrestlers' best match. it doesn't matter if he only blows me away with a single action like once a year, if that
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Jul 3, 2020 14:23
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Okada's the best wrestler ever He just also has a lovely cobra clutch Both can be true
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Crapple! posted:I kind of think that's one dumb opinion that New Japan watchers brought upon themselves. I watched my first NJPW show this year (Wrestle Kingdom) and my expectations were so ludicrously high for Okada based on what people had said about him that being underwhelmed was completely inevitable and it has nothing to do with him not being great. I know people in the thread said that you have to kind of look at his career as a whole, but it's like, what do you expect people to say if they only watch a couple of matches? The hyperbole around the guy is just off the charts It's not hyperbole if it's true. Kazuchika Okada is one of the best professional wrestlers I've seen. And part of that is the unbelievable consistently high level of his big matches. I don't think it's on me that you have unrealistic expectations of what "best wrestler ever" means. The Ibushi & Naito matches were both extremely good. It's entirely fine if that's not your thing but I stand by the statement.
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I can understand not instantly getting why Okada is the best wrestler on the planet if you’re just watching your first NJPW show(s) and expect him to destroy the impossible expectations set for you by people saying he’s the best. There’s a slight ”learning curve” to the big Okada match, I’d say. I think the real appreciation for just how insanely good he is develops when you’ve seen a couple of his big matches with different opponents and see how consistently he delivers incredible stories in the ring, every single time with perfect technical execution. So basically this post is exactly what Cavauro already posted, just worse
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Jul 3, 2020 14:55
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I wasn't completely sold on him at first either, but after the best part of a decade with him putting on consistently amazing matches throughout (including a lot of and _the_ highest rated match of all time), not to mention his age and him probably having many more years to go and it's not hard to see why people call him that. He's not my favourite wrestler to watch, because right now I find myself enjoying Ishii and Shingo more, but that doesn't mean he's not the best wrestler.
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Okada, despite his gimmick, isn't the flashiest guy in the ring. But as others have said he consistently puts on the best matches ever no matter who he's facing. He's for sure one of, of not the, best in ring guy ever.
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Jul 3, 2020 15:52
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And that drop kick is *chef kiss*
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And he low key has the best bridging German suplex in the world. Google it. Nothing Okada does looks inpossible its all very simple and fundamental but its all done perfectly.
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Part of Okada's gimmick is that he's so good he doesn't need to do super fancy poo poo.
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Chris James 2 posted:Okada's the best wrestler ever In this case neither is true. https://twitter.com/CJBattleChaser/status/1279055469542207489
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Lid posted:And he low key has the best bridging German suplex in the world. Google it. This is very debatable. There are some beautiful Germans out there. I wouldn't call it the best but someone who has sneaky good bridging German is Hokuto Omori, All Japan young boy. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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Jul 3, 2020 18:49
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Wasn't Dave the first person to tell Dixie when Spike cancelled them?
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OctoberCountry posted:Wasn't Dave the first person to tell Dixie when Spike cancelled them? IIRC he tried but she never returned his call or email.
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Okada's last long reign that culminated with the loss to Kenny is the greatest title reign in the entirety of wrestling history, even the Fale match was great.
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Eat My Fuc posted:Okada's last long reign that culminated with the loss to Kenny is the greatest title reign in the entirety of wrestling history, even the Fale match was great. drew huge too
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Chris James 2 posted:Did my part, reported that tweet for transphobia oh hey, just got a notification update, it worked and that account's been suspended 
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it was from my report.
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Chris James 2 posted:oh hey, just got a notification update, it worked and that account's been suspended Hey, me too! Didn't they also brag that Twitter wasn't going to suspend them?
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if you get a chance, give me some more bad egg tweet accounts to get banned. I am powerful
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They have a new account https://twitter.com/FUCKAEW_
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fatherofmustard posted:They have a new account
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fatherofmustard posted:They have a new account Plot twist: The big reveal will be that former WWE Tag Champ Nicholas (Strowman's former partner) is running that account.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:I only buy appliances from the local shop run by a couple "it fell off a truck If I could, that'd be the only type of businesses I'd ever go to.
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He's not wrong
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Except that he is because he proposes two absolute options neither of which puts any of the responsibility for the issue on how WWE books her. It also ignores the question of why WWE saw so much in her to push her so strong on two levels only to then flip a switch on her. So like... maybe people want to see Shayna but don't want to see her booked the way she was booked leading to WM? Maybe that's a possibility? But that can't be the case because that would mean WWE is the problem and not the fans. And as they say, the customer is always wrong.
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Jul 7, 2020 02:57
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WWE's customers are always wrong because they like WWE
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Also "fans" aren't a monolith. If one half of fans want to see Bazsler pushed and another half of fans don't... Neither half is inconsistent.
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Even if they All thought "she shouldn't win all the time", the current response to that from the company ("let's not book her to appear at all except for on Main Event") isn't really justifiable, nor can it be excused as "wahhhh fans are never happy even when they get what they ask for." Nobody in any community I've seen was clamoring for her to be demoted to Main Event duties, same with Ricochet, no matter what anybody thought of either
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When people say they want WWE to do something there's usually the implication that they want the company to do it well, and it's not hypocritical to point out that WWE has done something poorly even if technically it's "what you want."
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OctoberCountry posted:WWE's customers are always wrong because they like WWE It's funny because it's true
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If people watched main event they'd push the stars on it, like if the same individuals who complain on twitter about wrestlers being on that show just spent that time watching that show things would happen. Most of the cool poo poo gets cancelled because terminally online people just watch 15 second clips of it instead of the show itself on the platform that tells the company people are watching. Streamable, twitter gifs or clips, help no one not in WWE or AEW. It hasn't helped the ratings for anyone and hasn't pushed anyone. When Daniel Bryan was being pushed hard by the fans they did it with their actual viewership, in person chants, etc. If Daniel was getting buried today like he was post summerslam 2013 the inability of people to do something offline would keep him sidelined and he'd never main event mania. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Twitter gifs are very very largely responsible for the popularity of every major indie star of the last 10 years. New Japan and PWG don't surge in popularity without big moments and spots being shared on twitter. Nobody watches Main Event because it's a loser show for idiots and marks.
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NienNunb posted:Twitter gifs are very very largely responsible for the popularity of every major indie star of the last 10 years. New Japan and PWG don't surge in popularity without big moments and spots being shared on twitter. Janela might not still have a career at all, let alone Would Not be getting money in a new major company, if the Zandig roof spot doesn't go viral. He's said as much himself. It's wild for anybody to imply that stuff doesn't matter a lot
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Eat My Fuc posted:If people watched main event they'd push the stars on it, like if the same individuals who complain on twitter about wrestlers being on that show just spent that time watching that show things would happen. Most of the cool poo poo gets cancelled because terminally online people just watch 15 second clips of it instead of the show itself on the platform that tells the company people are watching. Streamable, twitter gifs or clips, help no one not in WWE or AEW. It hasn't helped the ratings for anyone and hasn't pushed anyone. When Daniel Bryan was being pushed hard by the fans they did it with their actual viewership, in person chants, etc. If Daniel was getting buried today like he was post summerslam 2013 the inability of people to do something offline would keep him sidelined and he'd never main event mania. I feel like arguing that they'll push whoever the fans are passionate for by noting the time they intentionally buried the dude fans were passionate for until fans were literally hijacking the shows is not a great argument for why the problem with Main Event is not enough people watch it.
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