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I believe there's another post where he refers to it as "covaids". Because you know, it's not enough to be a plain old dumb piece of poo poo, gotta toss in some homophobia and toxic masculinity.
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Feb 23, 2021 00:13
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Power Windows posted:I believe there's another post where he refers to it as "covaids". Because you know, it's not enough to be a plain old dumb piece of poo poo, gotta toss in some homophobia and toxic masculinity. For clarification the "he" is Aries, the owners of Toyvomit are cool and enforce mask-wearing
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Mob posted:For clarification the "he" is Aries, the owners of Toyvomit are cool and enforce mask-wearing Toy Vomit isn’t the store running the event, but Wrestling Universe already came out and said it was Aries’ representation who made this announcement and they told them to gently caress off. https://mobile.twitter.com/TheWrestlingUni/status/1363878798840782856
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I’m always fascinated by how vociferously people online argue about WWE and comic books, when the ratings and sales numbers show that less and less people watch/buy with every passing week. Like, they clearly don’t watch WWE or buy current comics, but are so invested in arguing on behalf on a major corporation.
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Feb 23, 2021 00:24
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Tato posted:I’m always fascinated by how vociferously people online argue about WWE and comic books, when the ratings and sales numbers show that less and less people watch/buy with every passing week. Like, they clearly don’t watch WWE or buy current comics, but are so invested in arguing on behalf on a major corporation. To be fair, the comic market has just changed more than dropped through lack of interest. It's mostly turned to trade sales. Though the most vocal weirdos are for sure pirating if they're reading at all.
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Feb 23, 2021 00:31
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Vince MechMahon posted:To be fair, the comic market has just changed more than dropped through lack of interest. It's mostly turned to trade sales. Though the most vocal weirdos are for sure pirating if they're reading at all. Yeah. When they say comics are dying what they actually mean are direct market specialty stores and, you know, good, but a lot of the people complaining comics are dying stopped adding any money to the hobby ages ago so who cares.
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Feb 23, 2021 00:40
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Yeah, the market has shifted. But I don’t believe the people complaining online have moved to those other methods of buying comics any more than I believe WWE zealots actually watch all 8 (or more) hours of programming each week. Their only hobby is pathetically hating on a product they don’t even watch/read to defend...another product they don’t watch or read? How can your life be that hollow? Your time that meaningless?
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sleepwalkers posted:people confuse saying things with intensity for being a good promo. Remember that time when Dolph Ziggler changed his gimmick to "yells really hard"
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Feb 23, 2021 02:17
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Tato posted:I’m always fascinated by how vociferously people online argue about WWE and comic books, when the ratings and sales numbers show that less and less people watch/buy with every passing week. Like, they clearly don’t watch WWE or buy current comics, but are so invested in arguing on behalf on a major corporation. *Superhero* comics, specifically from Marvel and DC, are dying. The comics industry as a whole is doing pretty well.
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Feb 23, 2021 05:44
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Vandar posted:*WWF* wrestling, specifically from Raw and Smackdown, are dying. The wrestling industry as a whole is doing.
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Feb 23, 2021 05:48
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Power Windows posted:I believe there's another post where he refers to it as "covaids". Because you know, it's not enough to be a plain old dumb piece of poo poo, gotta toss in some homophobia and toxic masculinity. Nothing quite says "Covid is no big deal," than comparing it to the universally recognized Worst And Most Horrible Disease Of The Last Two Generations
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Feb 23, 2021 05:57
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Austin Aries is probably an AIDS denialist like Foo Fighters
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Feb 23, 2021 06:12
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Lid posted:Austin Aries is probably an AIDS denialist like Foo Fighters
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Feb 23, 2021 06:39
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unable to fathom the idea of drawing new fans in by promising insanely cool poo poo
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awful lot of words out of that wredditor just to say “I’m a joyless square who hates fun and spectacle”
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Feb 23, 2021 06:54
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I supported WWE and wrestling through the ringboy scandal, killing Owen Hart, and Benoit but AEW having a hardcore match is just too much for me!
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My man got worked into thinking he beat Hulk Hogan in a an arm wrestling contest.
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If you don't like stories and characters why would you watch pro wrestling? Go watch actual wrestling!
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Dimebags Brain posted:
i forgot wreddit existed as the "serious" side of the bigots and dickheads at SCJerk and I made it exactly ONE thread before I had to come back here with this quote:/Wreddit SCJerk - we claim that squaredcircle is oppressive but drat it won't someone think of the rapists?
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Lid posted:SCJerk - we claim that squaredcircle is oppressive but drat it won't someone think of the rapists?
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Dimebags Brain posted:
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deathmatch wrestling sure seems to rile people up. I don't like it either but I have no clue why it provokes such visceral anger in people.
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Alaois posted:unable to fathom the idea of drawing new fans in by promising insanely cool poo poo I've spent a lot of time, more than anyone probably should, arguing online with people who hate modern wrestling and something I've learned is that they don't want to see anything new. For them wrestling isn't about seeking new experiences it's about trying to recapture old experiences. Specifically the experiences they had when they were children and thought wrestling was real. For them, wrestling as an artform was perfected at whatever time-period that they, personally were children. Once wrestling started to evolve from whatever point that was, that's when wrestling started getting degenerate and bad and everyone stopped selling and everyone started 'just doing moves', or whatever their personal criticism are. They believe that if only wrestling would go back to being exactly like it was when they were children it would suddenly become more popular and more successful. All these new moves and new match types and self-awareness are scaring off all the casual/potential fans! So, yes, actually, some people literally are unable to fathom the idea of drawing new fans in by promising insanely cool poo poo.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/lqhet3/wor_dave_meltzer_tay_conti_is_a_freaking_star/ Every single comment in this thread.
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Lid posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/lqhet3/wor_dave_meltzer_tay_conti_is_a_freaking_star/ Lol at people that just cannot admit that maybe the PC is a failure and WWE is only turning red hot indie wrestlers into mediocre brands for television. Also: “well ackshually she’s not technically a ‘star’ yet Dave”
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Lid posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/lqhet3/wor_dave_meltzer_tay_conti_is_a_freaking_star/ I love watching them try to name Performance Center success stories and just listing the worst wrestlers in the company edit: lmao Someone listed Jason Jordan as a PC success story Oh jesus, Velveteen too lol OctoberCountry fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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JUNGLE BOY posted:Lol at people that just cannot admit that maybe the PC is a failure and WWE is only turning red hot indie wrestlers into mediocre brands for television. Excuse me she's the star of the show.
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OctoberCountry posted:I love watching them try to name Performance Center success stories and just listing the worst wrestlers in the company That or they name people who had very successful careers before joining WWE, like Performance Center success story Finn Balor
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One of them is claiming PAC owes his success to the PC. PAC.
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A case could be made for Bianca though she's really just starting her career.
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TV Zombie posted:A case could be made for Bianca though she's really just starting her career. The fact that examples are that few and far between is the point of the argument. AEW is currently effectively using three people to varying degrees of success that recently got cut from the PC between Tay, Cesar Bononi and Nick Comoroto, which is probably the bigger indictment of the PC and the creative energies expended to make folks from the PC work.
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It's deeper than that though. Their movement to attack the performance center is a tactical move to discredit that venture because its not how WWE used to do business. Former wrestlers used to open schools and then get paid when WWE picks up their talent or uses their talent on TV etc, etc. Now the performance center takes that away. It's not about some singular style of wrestling that comes out of the PC. It's not true, it's that the PC insulates WWE and cuts off guys from making money off WWE's need for talent. Tay Conti is a perfect example of this double standard. If ANY independent wrestler came in NXT and was a star, Meltzer would specifically highlight that WWE DID NOT train them. Now, a PC trained pro wrestler is a STAR in AEW. Are fans gonna deny it now?
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Lid posted:One of them is claiming PAC owes his success to the PC. I confidently expect that if the Young Bucks were to sign with WWE tomorrow, people on Reddit would list them as performance centre grads.
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quote:If we can't give the PC credit for improving wrestlers if they previously had an indie career, we also can't give AEW credit from improving Tay Conti because she used to be at the PC 
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quote:She wanted to main event NXT before she was ready and they wanted her to improve first and push her after that. It was obvious that she was not ready for anything not just based on her in-ring skills but also from the fact that she could not keep her emotion in check during matches. She was impatient from the start and with the amount of talent in PC who are willing to sacrifice everything before getting chance to be on TV she fell apart. Mind you that this was before NXT went live and although this sub likes to pretend that NXT on Network was much better, there was simply no time for somebody like her (and many others). When they went live she was injured, frustrated and wanted to leave. I have no doubt that she would be featured on TV much more after they went live but with the amount of female talent in NXT she would be nowhere near the main event. Yes Tay Conti failed to succeed in WWE because her ego was too big and she kept... politicking? What even is this? Is this citing an NXT fanfiction they wrote?
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Vandar posted:*Superhero* comics, specifically from Marvel and DC, are dying. The comics industry as a whole is doing pretty well. This is also not true. They are still the highest selling companies and that's the biggest genre. It's just floppies no one is buying, and no one is buying any of those. It's just moved to trade sales. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but this is a common talking point used by hate group Comicsgate, so it would be for the best if we don't act like it's true.
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Lamuella posted:Excuse me she's the star of the show. That's Anna Jay.
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Vince MechMahon posted:That's Anna Jay. I genuinely had name blindness there and thought that's who Dave was talking about.
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