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There's something so wrong about watching a bunch of seven-foot men beat the poo poo out of what looks to be a literal child after Rey unmasked in WCW.
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Sep 17, 2019 18:52
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Rarity posted:Is this a general Brandon Stroud sucks thing or is there something specific I'm not aware of? MassRafTer posted:There are accusations about him that I always forget and hope people will post (and are relevant to the thread as he has stupid wrestling fan opinions.)
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Sep 17, 2019 20:12
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MassRafTer posted:There are accusations about him that I always forget and hope people will post (and are relevant to the thread as he has stupid wrestling fan opinions.) Supposedly he stole nudes off a woman's phone when he was with Inspire and has a general creep reputation. I really don't know the details, validity of the claims, or anything beyond these 2 things
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Sep 17, 2019 20:24
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"hi i'm with britwres, women and children come not closer than 100ft, please"
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Sep 17, 2019 20:42
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WrestleForum continues to bring bad opinions: "Gable, Ricochet, Alexander, Ali. Bury them all I say." quote:You can say Vince has lost it and needs to be put out to pasture. I've even said it a few times. But one thing i thank god he's never lost is seeing size does matter in this business. Vince will always take the big guy. Because what they may lack in in ring ability worker they make up for shear size, athleticisim, character and charisma. All pretty much Geeks !!! quote:He is not trolling you, you and people who liked your comment seem to forget what pro wrestling was ALWAYS about. Roided up monsters like Batista, Goldberg, HHH, Lesnar, etc, giant freaks like Show, Andre, Nash, Khali, Gonzales, etc. Monsters like Kane, Taker, Nathan Jones, Braun, etc. It was NEVER about how many moves you can do, about being "best technical wrestler" in the world, none of that stupid BS. WWE was literally called land of giants, all big guys went into wrestling back in the day. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 22:06
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Of all the crazy things to happen in reality in 2019 the last one I ever expected was someone unironically citing Nathan Jones 
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Sep 18, 2019 22:52
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was he the one who quit when they did a spot show in his home country of australia
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Sep 18, 2019 22:57
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STONE COLD 64 posted:was he the one who quit when they did a spot show in his home country of australia I don't know about that but I do know he was on Pride 1, against "controversial" former sumo & NJPW guy Koji Kitao.
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Sep 18, 2019 23:41
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STONE COLD 64 posted:was he the one who quit when they did a spot show in his home country of australia Sure was. He also injured Brad Pitt during the filming of Troy, and was the fourth or fifth coolest person in Fury Road.
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Sep 18, 2019 23:55
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The only nathan jones segment that was good was just before wm xix when undertaker spent like 20 mins of smackdown trying to get nathan Jones to do a big boot and he couldnt
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Sep 18, 2019 23:57
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Lmao at the argument wrestling's top stars were never technically proficient. Wrestling began in 1984 apparently.
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Sep 19, 2019 00:21
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Rarity posted:Of all the crazy things to happen in reality in 2019 the last one I ever expected was someone unironically citing Nathan Jones Never mind an unironic citing of Giant Gonzalez.
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Sep 19, 2019 00:25
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Hellblazer187 posted:Lmao at the argument wrestling's top stars were never technically proficient. Wrestling began in 1984 apparently. There was no wrestling industry before the WWF, and there shall be no industry after its death.
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Sep 19, 2019 00:34
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Hellblazer187 posted:Lmao at the argument wrestling's top stars were never technically proficient. Wrestling began in 1984 apparently. Also wrestling doesn't and has never existed outside the United States either. Like one of the three most influential Japanese wrestlers ever got over entirely because of his proficiency in wrestling and martial arts. Also its not like WWE are pushing people who do 'technical wrestling' or that they really have many people that primarily do that: Gable does, there might be one or two others in NXT but that's like it. People who go on about it make it sound like WWE have an army of Hideki Suzuki's that they push while ignoring top level charisma guts which... really isn't the case.
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Sep 19, 2019 01:29
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The joke is that they think charisma is Being Tall and that is it.
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Sep 19, 2019 01:34
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Are you saying that Giant Gonzalez didn't have tons of charisma?
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Sep 19, 2019 02:09
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Rarity posted:Of all the crazy things to happen in reality in 2019 the last one I ever expected was someone unironically citing Nathan Jones 
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Sep 19, 2019 02:16
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Also he got worse due to injury but Steve Austin was a very good technical wrestler
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Sep 19, 2019 19:23
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Wrestle Forum on NXT last night:quote:2 hour show, one 30 second promo, that's loving pathetic. You just opened your show to a whole new audience who might not be familiar with your talents and you gave them 0 reason to care about any of these geeks. At least Velveteen Dream got a vignette but he's arguably the only person under the NXT, UK and 205 umbrella who's charisma and gimmick speaks for itself, so he really didn't need it. They got really mad that there weren't long in ring promos.
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Sep 19, 2019 20:09
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So I wonder how much of the IWC is just people who just wish wrestling stopped evolving past 1998 since "why is there all of this... wrestling... on my wrestling program?!" and the assumption that Ring of Honor/PWG/New Japan/AEW/whatever alternative they deem as encroaching on WWE is nothing but "spot monkeys doing flips and hitting each other for reals, lolwhatabunchamarks, there's no stories there" these days, since it feels like that's the wellspring through which most of these opinions burst into view. Would probably explain why that these same people always seem way out to pasture culturally in every other aspect, too.Blast Fantasto posted:Also he got worse due to injury but Steve Austin was a very good technical wrestler One could argue him getting the spark to push himself beyond punch-kick and plunder when he ended up working Benoit and Jericho for a bit actually quickened the end of his career. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WInWAHW0wo This was maybe not the smartest spot given his neck. But, dammit, he felt the need to keep up, and those matches were great in the moment.
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Sep 19, 2019 20:19
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People who think NJPW doesn't have stories are the easiest to ignore, because it plainly exposes that they don't actually watch NJPW
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Sep 19, 2019 22:11
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https://twitter.com/dad69_hot/status/1174790284372299782
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Sep 19, 2019 22:12
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A place called cocono. We'll get there fast and then we'll post real slow.
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Sep 19, 2019 22:20
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There's basically nothing crazier to me iwc wise than people thinking wrestling storylines is when two guys cut twenty minute promos at each other and have 3 matches on ppvs and that's all.
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Sep 19, 2019 22:22
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There's a strain of wrestling dumbass who thinks that any match that isn't structured around limb work or a traditional Hulk Hogan style match lacks "psychology".
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Sep 19, 2019 22:50
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ItohRespectArmy posted:There's basically nothing crazier to me iwc wise than people thinking wrestling storylines is when two guys cut twenty minute promos at each other and have 3 I believe the technical term for this is Hunter Hearst Holmsyndrome. you hate to see it
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Sep 19, 2019 23:25
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ItohRespectArmy posted:There's basically nothing crazier to me iwc wise than people thinking wrestling storylines is when two guys cut twenty minute promos at each other and have 3 Watching the G1 get storylines over in multiman tag matches every night especially the Suzuki-Gun ones with special mention to Taichi was awesome.
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Sep 19, 2019 23:31
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Lid posted:Watching the G1 get storylines over in multiman tag matches every night especially the Suzuki-Gun ones with special mention to Taichi was awesome. All of Mox and Shota’s tags were great prologues to Mox’s matches.
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Sep 20, 2019 20:20
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Hell, one of the most compelling New Japan stories this year was between two older guys I usually don't really have much interest in but the storyline was so strong I became enraptured. One wrestler standing vigil outside the shrine where his former best friend sacrificed his soul to become an unhinged beast (and kept on a leash by a deranged sadist), hoping to restore his sanity and reunite their team one last time was everything I want from pro-wrestling and more.
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Sep 21, 2019 01:11
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It's loving wild that Takashi Iizuka of all people got a better retirement sendoff than Kurt Angle
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Sep 21, 2019 01:33
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I'm pretty sure the only person with a better retirement angle/match than Iizuka might actually be Ric Flair, which is pretty loving astonishing.
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Sep 21, 2019 01:39
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Benne posted:It's loving wild that Takashi Iizuka of all people got a better retirement sendoff than Kurt Angle It really was an all time great send off. Like the flair one was just pageantry and that’s all well and good. But Iizuka’s really delivered on so many levels. The after match speeches really clinched it.
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Sep 21, 2019 01:56
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ItohRespectArmy posted:There's basically nothing crazier to me iwc wise than people thinking wrestling storylines is when two guys cut twenty minute promos at each other and have 3 Think about it this way: How many angles, in the traditional sense, has WWE run on the main roster in the Network era where they've become more complacent?
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Sep 22, 2019 00:39
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ItohRespectArmy posted:There's basically nothing crazier to me iwc wise than people thinking wrestling storylines is when two guys cut twenty minute promos at each other and have 3 i've had actual, breathing WWE fans tell me that new japan doesn't have real storylines because of this exact reason. "'I want your title/I'm a better wrestler than you' isn't a storyline" is the usual line, as if those kind of storylines haven't drawn people to sports for literally thousands of years
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Sep 22, 2019 01:50
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davidbix posted:Preaching to the choir. Define angle in that context, we talking 'Dusty locked in the cage with the Horsemen' or 'Mick Foley wanders Cleveland'?
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Sep 22, 2019 02:01
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This is all I have for actual angles this year in WWE. Strowman destroys a limo Lynch enters the Rumble? Batista attacking Ric Flair Reigns attacking Vince Owens turning on the New Day, even if it was super rushed Seth Rollins killing all possible guest refs Mike Kanellis is a beta cuck Who Killed Roman Reigns? The FIEEEEEEND Shane firing Owens
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Sep 22, 2019 02:28
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Jerusalem posted:Hell, one of the most compelling New Japan stories this year was between two older guys I usually don't really have much interest in but the storyline was so strong I became enraptured. One wrestler standing vigil outside the shrine where his former best friend sacrificed his soul to become an unhinged beast (and kept on a leash by a deranged sadist), hoping to restore his sanity and reunite their team one last time was everything I want from pro-wrestling and more. Who were these wrestlers? :shock:
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Sep 22, 2019 02:35
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Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Takashi Iizuka. Iizuka was the one who became an unhinged beast after his heel turn, and after his retirement was announced, Tenzan spent weeks confronting him and begging him to come back to the good side and reform their tag team. It all culminated in an incredible multi-man tag retirement match which ended in the most perfect way as Iizuka basically broke off from his heel stable who no longer controlled him, but rather than reuniting with Tenzan he basically just staggered off through the crowd ignoring the pleas for him to come back to the ring, and disappeared into the night to never be seen again. Also his often used iron-claw weapon got left behind and one of the other heels gleefully stole it to add it to his own arsenal. I like to think he's still out there somewhere, lurching wildly through the undergrowth, living a free life in the wilderness.
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Lord. There are no happy endings in Wrestling are there?
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