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Antifreeze Head posted:Don't several people other than those in the iron lungs see her without the mask at some point anyway? I know Takikaze does, but I could be misremembering. Even if not, a mask isn't enough to keep people from noticing someone was aging. Other people see her without the mask from time to time, but it's been so long since she's been seen unmasked by the general public while actually in her role as captain that almost no one knows what the captain of Sidonia actually looks like so they don't make the connection that the lady they're seeing is actually the captain. That's when Tanikaze runs into her at the inn where she's playing at being innkeeper he almost chokes on his own tongue and has to catch himself before blurting out "CAPTAIN???" It's stated that one of the few recreational/pleasurable activities she allows herself is to pretend to be one of the proles from time to time. As Darth Walrus suggests, Sidonia is an authoritarian state with a wholly state-controlled press. I'd lay odds the only reason they even report things like loss figures is to play up how dangerous the Gauna are to keep anti-war sentiment down. The captain even alludes to using Tanikaze and his exploits as a propaganda tool to build up support for war.
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Antifreeze Head posted:Don't several people other than those in the iron lungs see her without the mask at some point anyway? I know Takikaze does, but I could be misremembering. Even if not, a mask isn't enough to keep people from noticing someone was aging. In the manga the pacifist who decide to colonize the lem system were constantly protesting on how the ship was run, one of them had a sign with all the faces of the ships captains on it stating "we have never left the Sol system and all the captains are the same"
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Telling a story works fine on paper, but in the anime it takes time away from robot fights, so the producers of the show made some cuts. I can't say I disagree with that decision because the robot fights looked awesome, but it's kind of confusing for people who didn't read the manga first. Some plot stuff from the manga that was skipped over or rushed through in the show: All the people ruling Sidonia, the Captain, the Ace pilot (Tanikaze's grandfather), Bear Lady, Ochiai (the captain's henchman), the Chief Scientist (Izana's grandmother) and the Immortal Council (aka the Iron Lung Club) are immortals. Since Sidonia is a spaceship with limited resources universal immortality for all is impractical, so the Immortals keep it a secret by wearing masks when appearing in public. Bear lady is the only bear on Sidonia so people just assume she's a robot or that bears are naturally immortal. The Captain likes to sneak out without her mask on occasion since no one recognizes her without it. Bear lady has been a bear since childhood, which was hundreds of years ago. Even if she could get a human body, she's used to being a bear. Replacing a bear arm was probably beyond their capabilities when she lost it, so she's been using the robot arm for centuries and is probably happy with it. The Kabi spears are made from alien artefacts that the Captain and her squad found hundreds of years ago, they are the only thing that can actually kill Gauna and they can't make more of them. Using them as bullets or missiles would leave them defenseless in short order, so they are used as spears. Pilots can be replaced, Kabi can't. Sidonia has lost a lot of technological, scientific, and historical records over the last millenium. Most notably, at the end of the last Gauna war 100 years ago, the Chief Scientist Ochiai erased all of Sidonia's databanks and threw away all of their Kabi. Two Gauna got into the ship and killed 99.9% (500,000+ humans to less than 500) of the population in a matter of minutes, before Tanikaze's grandfather recovered the Kabi and killed them. Since Ochiai wiped their computers, the only remaining records were stored in his auxiliary brain (a big computer), which only he could access. So the Captain had his memories erased and keeps him around as a combination henchman/key. Tanikaze grew up in a hole playing video games with his grandfather and starving. He has zero social skills. The other characters think he's quiet and mysterious with hidden depths, but the truth is he just wants to fly robots and eat. The author, Tsutomu Nihei specializes in protagonists who are quiet, emotionless, inhuman, and unstoppable killing machines. Tanikaze starts off pretty much the same way, and develops further as the series progresses. In the beginning however, he's just there to ogle the scenery porn, interact with the more interesting but expendable side characters, and gently caress poo poo up.
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Kanos posted:That's part of the reason the Captain wears a mask. The other (real) reason is she's immortal and nobody outside of the immortal council are supposed to know that there are immortals on Sidonia. A highly visible and important figure like the captain of the entire ship never visibly aging would raise questions. I figured it was also a clever little nod to the Persian Immortals.
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Avulsion posted:Some plot stuff from the manga that was skipped over or rushed through in the show: That's for filling in the blanks. I might have to hit up the manga some day since it's nowhere near as fugly as the anime, but in the meantime this answers a few lingering unimportant questions I had.
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Anyone have a guess as to the survival rates of the pilots of frames either shot down or crippled?
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Artificer posted:Anyone have a guess as to the survival rates of the pilots of frames either shot down or crippled? 100% as long as they contain the protagonist.
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Kanos posted:The interesting thing is that the show spent a lot more time on that character and Tanikaze's reaction to her than the manga did, which I thought was a pretty good choice. This is pretty much what the anime does on the whole - anything it actually covers is largely leagues better then the original, but it just can't cover everything. Dude is apparently just a bit bad at writing character interaction, apparently. Edit: Actually, I find it rather telling that the anime does every set piece, event etc almost 1:1 except for a few notable things that wouldn't do well in a single season, but does all the dialog and actual character interaction fairly differently. Gamerofthegame fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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Just finished watching this on netflix and its basically the first anime I've watched in years. Robot fights were awesome. Plot was pretty good and definitely clever enough to keep it interesting. Stupid herem anime tropes however? Bleh. How has this medium not moved past this middle school bullshit yet?
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Talorat posted:Just finished watching this on netflix and its basically the first anime I've watched in years. Robot fights were awesome. Plot was pretty good and definitely clever enough to keep it interesting. Stupid herem anime tropes however? Bleh. How has this medium not moved past this middle school bullshit yet? How has television not gotten past sexist bullshit yet?
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Artificer posted:How has Japan not gotten past sexist bullshit yet? I think this is what you meant to post.
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Kilonum posted:I think this is what you meant to post. The world in general though has similar issues. I'm not saying its okay.
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Wow. First anime in a while I genuinely like. I really like that hermaphrodite character(I am horrible with names  ), but is there more story to this in the manga? Because she/he could just as well be a girl instead of what she is and it wouldn't really change the story in any way
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Jul 14, 2014 21:45
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izana grows titties and gets girlshaped in the manga because she's super into tanikaze, and a skinsuit explodes because of this
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muike posted:Manga spoiler:izana grows titties and gets girlshaped in the manga because she's super into tanikaze, and a skinsuit explodes because of this And Tanikaze nearly dies from this act.
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In fairness, you could say that of just about everything that happens on Sidonia.
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Well that was interesting I tried to watch this on netflix, and netflix decided that the play button should start at episode two so I ended up watching the second and third episodes before watching the first. It was actually kind of interesting just straight up starting with fighting a guana and then rewinding to him in the academny. I kept thinking this show just doesn't mess around with exposition it just throws you right off the deep end and expects you to figure it out. Of course once I realized that netflix had hosed up I went back and watched the first episode and now a lot of things are much clearer. It was like watching victory gundam all over again. Can't say I'm of the fan of the cgi it reminds me of clone wars or cubix or some other lovely childrens TV show. And a lot of the characters look incredibly samey which makes telling them apart difficult or at least it would if the show didn't immediately kill them. The background and lore around the series seems pretty interesting and despite not liking the humans moving around the robots look pretty good in action.
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If you think the characters are hard to differentiate in the show, the manga's in black and white which makes it even harder.  Most people agree on the CGI look, but then you just sort of get used to it, especially the rather weird framerate.
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Talorat posted:Just finished watching this on netflix and its basically the first anime I've watched in years. Robot fights were awesome. Plot was pretty good and definitely clever enough to keep it interesting. Stupid herem anime tropes however? Bleh. How has this medium not moved past this middle school bullshit yet? Don't worry, if it follows the manga, the harem tropes will get very interesting and ... weird ... later on.  E: Or maybe you should worry. I'm still not quite sure how I feel about 20 chapters or so of "The boy and the giant penis-shaped tentacle-slug who loved him" Lead out in cuffs fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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I watched this on a whim one saturday morning because it came up on my netflix and I didn't have anything better to do. It's the show that convinced that anime could be good and not just over the top weirdness for the sake of it or masturbation fodder. I don't mind the CG and stuff but like WHY IS THERE A TALKING BEAR AND WHY DOES NOBODY QUESTION THE PRESENCE OF A TALKING loving BEAR?! anyway any word of a second season or is it all just "Whenever the stars align over the birth of a 7th son of a 7th son"?
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IronLawnmower posted:I watched this on a whim one saturday morning because it came up on my netflix and I didn't have anything better to do. It's the show that convinced that anime could be good and not just over the top weirdness for the sake of it or masturbation fodder. I don't mind the CG and stuff but like WHY IS THERE A TALKING BEAR AND WHY DOES NOBODY QUESTION THE PRESENCE OF A TALKING loving BEAR?! anyway any word of a second season or is it all just "Whenever the stars align over the birth of a 7th son of a 7th son"? Second season's in the works, I think it's starting either end of the year or beginning of next year. Also, the bear's there because why the gently caress not. Talking bears are awesome, and nobody questions the talking bear because they're aware of how awesome talking bears are.
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Thats great. I can't wait to see what happens with gauna-fetus Hoshijiro. Now if they announced a second season of Watamote I'd be set for the next while.
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While you're waiting, give Aldnoah Zero a shot (Crunchyroll is handling the legal streams). It's a similar style and tone of sci-fi to KOS, though it's near-future with imported alien tech rather than a far-future transhumanfest.
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I'm seven episodes into this and I really like it. But before I continue, and I am A-OK with spoilers on this to the point that you can PM me manga stuff, does Kunato remain the antagonist? "Comically evil rich kid" is really taking me out of things.
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Cheston posted:I'm seven episodes into this and I really like it. But before I continue, and I am A-OK with spoilers on this to the point that you can PM me manga stuff, does Kunato remain the antagonist? "Comically evil rich kid" is really taking me out of things. For the animated series? No, he moves out of focus after a certain event.
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mr. stefan posted:For the animated series? No, he moves out of focus after a certain event. TO EPISODE EIGHT
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They do come with an explanation for the talking bear. Although when they do it is obviously created simply because talking bears are awesome.
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TARDISman posted:Also, the bear's there because why the gently caress not. Talking bears are awesome, and nobody questions the talking bear because they're aware of how awesome talking bears are. Tsutomo Nihei loves to reuse stuff from his previous works, and BiOmega had a guy who got around worrying about the N5S infection (a nanite-caused zombie plague) by transplanting his brain into the body of his pet bear. It also made him immortal in the process because  .
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Biomega ruled a lot and he should take a second swing at it, Gunnm-style.
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I know nothing about this show but I saw the preview for the Blame! anime that is "aired within" this show. How does that work? Is it just like a series of shorts after each episode? The preview made it look almost like a diegetic show within a show or something. Is it any good? I read Blame! back a lot of years ago and found it to be incomprehensible but was enthralled throughout by the architecture and atmosphere. My dream game that I daydream about from time to time is a roguelike/dungeon crawler that looks and feels like Blame!. I guess Baroque is a bit like that probably.
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asvodel posted:I know nothing about this show but I saw the preview for the Blame! anime that is "aired within" this show. How does that work? Is it just like a series of shorts after each episode? The preview made it look almost like a diegetic show within a show or something. I don't think anyone knows what the Blame show-within-a-show will look like, the next season should air this spring, we'll see more then. Super psyched they are bringing blame! back... now just need an official Abara anime, skull bird will fly again!
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I've been watching. Fun so far.
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Darth Walrus posted:I've been watching. Fun so far. I actually skipped the first season (have been following the manga). Forgot how much gets added by music and color to the mood of a show. Second season seems pretty good so far. Excited about Blame stuff.
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Wookie Bouquet posted:Everyone waiting on second season till netflix? Or anyone watching the fansubbed ones? I'm waiting. I watched the first season fansubbed and felt like in the end I probably should have just watched it on Netflix, mostly due to lovely streams because I can't be bothered to download things. I'm more excited about the Blame stuff than the actual show tbh; I hope someone rips it all out and puts together a compilation so I can just watch that while I'm waiting on Netflix.
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Well, that ep was as metal as we've come to expect from the show. 
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Darth Walrus posted:Well, that ep was as metal as we've come to expect from the show. Where's the series up to now?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Where's the series up to now?
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Darth Walrus posted:Well, that ep was as metal as we've come to expect from the show. This was a really good episode that I wish I watched at a higher frame rate. Was the series on Netflix better (quality-wise) over the streamed versions we are getting now, because if so I might just wait.
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