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I think it's less that America as a whole is gun friendly, but pro-gun people are absolutely bonkers in their support of this issue above literally everything else.
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mcmagic posted:This is a canard. The vast majority of the single issue gun voters are already voting against any democrat because of the Kenyan socialist Muslim president. Are there any statistics that reference if gun owners are already as riled up as they can be in regards to this issue? From what it looks like in situations similar to the Colorado recalls it was a recall which is going to heavily favor people that are personally invested in the current prevailing issue (even more than off presidential elections) and anti-gun people typically don't treat that as important a single issue as pro-gun people. Do "moderates" swing more heavily towards por or anti gun and which side is more likely to be mobilized if the gun debate is brought to a forefront? Ten years ago I definitely would have said pro-gun but I'm not as sure now.
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corn in the bible posted:I think we're ignoring the biggest factor in gun violence, and it's that cops have guns. Police are the last people that should have easy access to guns on their persons, especially plain clothes ones.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:19
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, I was counting that in as increased bubble paranoia but maybe it's a separate cause. The law hasn't actually changed as much as it's been billed to have changed -- "Castle Doctrine" and even "Stand your Ground" (i.e., no duty to retreat)have actually already been the law in large sections of this country for decades upon decades. The real change has been subtler than that. The problem has been a recent raft of ALEC-sponsored bills that dramatically expanded the traditional common law "stand your ground"/"castle doctrine" defenses, among other things by changing the presumptions involved so that the shooter no longer has to prove self defense, the state has to prove it wasn't self-defense. The media has badly mangled intelligent discussion of that issue. Additionally from a few articles I've read, the presentation of Stand Your Ground and Castle Doctrine have given people the misconception that they can simple shoot whoever they want and yell "he was comin' right at me!" and get off clean when in actuality that isn't the case; it's much more complex and up in the air depending on a lot of factors. So you get these guys that start violent confrontations and think that they are protected when the laws really don't do what they think.
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Apr 29, 2014 15:34
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SedanChair posted:How does the act of carrying a gun put others in danger? Depends on how good of a shot the cop who freaks out when he sees it is I guess. http://rt.com/usa/toy-rifle-pulled-gun-traffic-059/ This is more of an indictment of cops than guns though.
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